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Old 03-24-2005, 04:49 PM   #1
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Telemarketing COmpany RAIDED and All Employees Arrested!!!

With the recent crackdown on spammers, why haven't the telemarketing companies been addressed. I have never used my home phone line since it was connected 3 months ago. I plugged it in today and have recieved 5 calls from telemarketing spammers. I have not given out my number or used my number to register anything. VERY FUCKING IRRITATING
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:52 PM   #2
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very good point.

Same applies for the PO and junk mail and coupons etc.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:54 PM   #3
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actually, telemarketing agencies get raided and employees get arrested all the time.

you're American, right? put your number on the National Do Not Call Registry. simple as that.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:57 PM   #4
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Call list is a joke -
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:57 PM   #5
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what company got raided? Link ?
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Old 03-24-2005, 05:15 PM   #6
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actually, telemarketing agencies get raided and employees get arrested all the time.

you're American, right? put your number on the National Do Not Call Registry. simple as that.

Some do , some dont, some are very smart. I think they get the stupid ones, but i know of a few responsible for thefts of hundreds of millions of dollars. The owners are still making money still living in the same houses. Its like they are untouchable. The attorney generals just arent equipped with fast enough action to do anything. These scammers have worked out a method of moving so fast under so many names , when you catch them , they are always 20 steps ahead and lose almost nothing in the process.

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Old 03-24-2005, 11:44 PM   #7
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I've been receiving calls from an automated machine lately, inviting me to call a premium rate ($ per minute) number to enter a lottery. My fax machine is in the same number range and received a non connecting call within a few hours of my voice line, so they're probably just calling every number in sequence. Both of my numbers are silent/unlisted.

The strange thing is that in AU local calls are not free, so for every connected call they would have been charged a fee (consumers pay an untimed call rate, but for them it may have been cheaper to pay per minute). I wouldn't have thought the response rate would be high enough to recoup those call costs, give out a prize - if they actually do - and still turn a profit. A $3.50/min premium rate number may only return $1/min net.

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Our phone company recently made some changes to our phone including dropping our message service, so I had it dicconnected. We've lived since then without a home phone. No more marketing calls for me.
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:46 PM   #9
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haven't had a home phone for 3 years now. cell phone only
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:48 PM   #10
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Our phone company recently made some changes to our phone including dropping our message service, so I had it dicconnected. We've lived since then without a home phone. No more marketing calls for me.
Do people in the USA still pay time charges to receive calls on their cell phone? From what I remember it's just a standard (xxx) xxx-xxxx number, so the caller doesn't have any idea that they may be calling a mobile phone. In Australia mobile ranges start with 04 and the caller pays the timed rate.
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:48 PM   #11
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I've been receiving calls from an automated machine lately, inviting me to call a premium rate ($ per minute) number to enter a lottery. My fax machine is in the same number range and received a non connecting call within a few hours of my voice line, so they're probably just calling every number in sequence. Both of my numbers are silent/unlisted.

The strange thing is that in AU local calls are not free, so for every connected call they would have been charged a fee (consumers pay an untimed call rate, but for them it may have been cheaper to pay per minute). I wouldn't have thought the response rate would be high enough to recoup those call costs, give out a prize - if they actually do - and still turn a profit. A $3.50/min premium rate number may only return $1/min net.
VoIP????
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:53 PM   #12
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its nice that no tele-spammers yet here in the philippines...but GOD, phone cable-thefts are everywhre...
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:58 PM   #13
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VoIP????
You mean you're suggesting they make the spam calls via VoIP to save money? There will still be a cost involved since they need to interconnect with the PSTN at some stage, the carrier receiving that call will charge the carrier sending it...
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Old 03-25-2005, 12:06 AM   #14
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For the same reason nothing will happen to the people that are filling your mail box with mail that you dont want, and did not ask for.


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Old 03-25-2005, 12:27 AM   #15
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For the same reason nothing will happen to the people that are filling your mail box with mail that you dont want, and did not ask for.
Junk mail can be stopped with a sign on your box; I've never had anyone disrespect that in the several years it was attached. When we moved I didn't bother to get another sign, as my wife likes the catalogs.

Phone calls are far more intrusive IMHO.
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You mean you're suggesting they make the spam calls via VoIP to save money? There will still be a cost involved since they need to interconnect with the PSTN at some stage, the carrier receiving that call will charge the carrier sending it...
Isn't VoIP unlimited?

I am not aware of AU practices however.
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Isn't VoIP unlimited?

I am not aware of AU practices however.
If a call terminates at a phone connected to a standard phone line then the carrier providing that service is going to charge.

That's why VoIP-VoIP is usually free (there's no "cost" involved apart from a few packets of data to set up the call), but calls from VoIP to a standard phone are not since they have to travel through the switched circuits of a telco.
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