:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I will not tell you why that statement is funny.......but they should change it to either-

OneFlakePlace.com or OneAgentPlace.com


Since there are few real models who dont demand everthing upfront or are Agents/Managers posing as models. :2 cents:

Good one. how bout one poseur place? Or, one wannabe place? or one beggar place? Or, one million models in one place?

you just named about 99% of the girls and producers on OMP.

lol
Duke

This thread keeps getting better & better.

Do you bad mouth other producers to models to gain repore with them?
do you feel like you have to be captain save a hoe? Or you could care less that her rent is due, her bird died and her tuition is over due and she might be pregnant and the various other top 10 excuses they all have.

My main questions are what do you do with them once you have them. Do you ever film them for extreme porn? Do you pay by the day or by the hour? Finding them is relativley easy.

Duke

Am i right or am i right :)

Duke

Yeah, I started Modelgig.com 3 yrs ago. That idiot Chris from Limelight and I flew her in, I then hooked her up with an agent in LA where she didnt have great experiences, but she is a sweet girl and has talked to me a few times since. I am glad she found a great guy.

Send em packin ASAP before they start changing the furniture around and stealing your shit. Better yet, check em into a hide-away hotel & never let them even see your nieghborhood. drive diferent ways to the studio every time & do a bunch of u-turns. Watch out for the boyfriend coming to "surprise her" on a shoot day & wants to stand behind the photographer whilst they coo encoragement to each other... and come back later to steal your equipment cause you don't deserve it cause only HE is going to make her a star!!! Happened to me a couple of times till I got smart.

What do you pay your models for the different shoots?

As little as posible while still employing the "Wow" factor.

Would you like a job in my office. We are growing fast

i watch so little hardcore porn it's not funny - just bores me. but the scene with Jordan was a turn on - no not cuz you Roy! because you could tell this was a real first time thing for that cutie. Brian shot her for Lightspeed, ATK, hmmm....... think a couple of other customers.

A Few Thoughts On Talent In The Adult Biz
 

I shoot hardcore, but not "extreme porn" as some call it. I try to create erotic content that women or couples can enjoy (not just men).

Many of us in the adult industry are independents. Thanks to digital technology and the internet, if you have a certain degree of technical knowledge, time and money to invest, and most importantly business savvy, you can make a good living as a producer in the adult industry.

Since I am an independent, and do not film extreme porn, I sometimes find myself at odds with some folks in the adult industry, particularly when it comes to the treatment of talent. Therefore, I would like to say a few words on this.

Annie Cruz has been mentioned several times in this thread, I'll use her as a case in point.

Annie came to me soon after turning 18, and as with all models, I asked her what her limits were (I never ask models to do anything they are uncomfortable with). At that time she said she would do up to girl/girl. So we got to work and I shot several (10+) projects with Annie over a few month span, eventually including some B/G and B/G/G scenes, since by that time Annie indicated she wanted to go further.

I genuinely try to give new models starting out good advice (control their content as much as possible, start their own pay site, etc - I have one model making money years after she stopped modeling).

I'm not an agent, nor do I ever want to be, but I do feel a certain degree of empathy with people in general, so I try to be helpful particularly to those whom my business depends upon.

Honestly, on the whole I feel like the talent is treated pretty poorly in the adult industry, so I warned Annie about some of the pitfalls of the industry.

Nonetheless, as soon as Annie hit LA, the first thing she was thrown into was the most extreme kind of content - anal, internal cumshots, DPs, gangbangs, etc.

In an industry that treats much of the talent as disposable, there seems to be a desire to force people into the most extreme acts as soon as possible, simply so the producer can make a quick buck.

Once the model has done a certain type of extreme act, it is hard for them to decline with the next producer. I feel many of these type of producers have little concern about the immediate, let alone longterm, well-being of the performers.

In fairness to those who Annie dealt with upon arriving in LA, she had an idea of what she was getting into, and walked into it wide-eyed, really wanting to become a porn star.

What some of you may not know is that Annie was one of the people that was exposed in the adult industry AIDS outbreak that occured last year.

Even though had she followed my advice, this would not have occured, I did not turn my back on her, but instead cried my eyes out with her on the phone upon learning of her situation.

Fortunately Annie's HIV tests came back negative. She subsequently got back into the adult industry. She's still a wild woman but much more careful than she was before.

Especially after my experience with Annie, I feel an obligation to tell models how they can maximize their earnings potential, and to be wary of some people in the industry who may not have their best interest at heart.

Ultimately in an industry of independent contractors, models/performers have to make and live with their own decisions. I realize that some of the talent is less than honorable too...I was taken for several thousand dollars by the first model I worked with, and I even recently had a solo site model bail on me after I paid for her $5,000 boob job, but I'll make my money back.

I'm happy to say that I have had mostly positive experiences with models/performers, and consider many of them friends. It may have a little to do with my niche, but I like to also feel it has something to deal with mutual respect.

First and foremost, I take a business approach since this is a business. Beyond that though, I like to be able to look in the mirror and be able to live with myself knowing that I try hard to be honest and fair with all whom I deal with, and that I treat people in the manner I would like to be treated if I were in their position.

Sorry for rambling on a bit...just my :2 cents:

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Hhmmm... only as a partner. Me & few friends have been throwing around some ideas about starting up another agency... you know my numbers - let's do lunch - babe!

She was a very horney girl... see her clit get HUGE every time it got agitated? That was totally real! First timer? try only-timer. My fiance jerks it to that scene all the time.

Why would you help destroy a girl's looks by paying for a boob job? I really cannot stand Asian girls with fake funbags. Francine Dee is a perfect example of a hot girl who fucked herself up and now has nips on the top of her breasts.

Hey POV guy....do you shoot exclusive content for other people? Or just for your own sites?

Sure. I have given some magazine layouts a try lately and I shoot for Swank video, Hustler - 2 series, and 3 sites for Lensman (www.girlshuntinggirls.com, www.teenhitchhikers.com & www.bigsausagepizza.com ). I used to shoot a bunch of stuff for www.Tushylickers.com & www.badtushy.com and I work on my sites alot. What do you need? ICQ me - I'm going to bed. I'm just up because Fear Factor made me wanna puke & I had to get my mind off eating maggot cheese.

Do you star in any films/pics?

Greg, for the record, I did not advise the model in question to get a boob job, nor have I ever advised any model to do that. Just the opposite, I strongly opposed it.

However, once it was clear that she had decided to go ahead with the procedure, I made sure that she was fully informed about the pros and cons, and I even attended the pre-op consultations with her to make sure she knew exactly what she was getting into, since she (not I) would have to live with her decision.

Personally, I prefer to see women with natural breasts. I can spot implants in an instant. Incidentally, I do not think that implants enhanced the look of this model one iota. I did pay for the procedure however as an advance for future exclusive work with me.

As to other models, even though I can tell when they have implants, some I think look quite fine anyway, although I would probably consider them equally good looking without them (Akira Lane, Mika Tan, Kat Guiterrez, etc).

Finally, I consider Francine Dee to be one of the most beautiful models on the planet. Her large breasts are instantly recognizable, but she has a lot more than that going for her, such as a gorgeous face and tight killer body (Francine is probably the most in shape, fit models, I have ever worked with - she really takes care of herself).

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I will give paypal you $5 if you can get Tia to show her pussy on camera. As far as I know she still only does non-nude.

http://www.tia-kai.com/

A whole $5!!! :1orglaugh

Actually, Tia has already done nude with her pussy showing (nothing pink though) a couple of times that I am aware of - with Nikki Chao, and also for another photographer friend of mine.

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i love looking at those models

I love this girl! :thumbsup