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Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy
obvious question is first where do you find best to meet girls.

Strip Clubs.

secondly approaching the girls how do you bring up the topic without being slapped.

Don't be rude and you wont get slapped. Start slow man, nobody does an anal gang bang on thier first shoot... well, some do, but discuss details after they get to your office. remember, it's just an interview, nothing is expected - from you or her. Ask them to bring a friend if they would like... and this makes them even more comfortable to come by themselves funny as it seems. Always have other FEMALE MODELS, assistants, make-up artists around whenever posible - it's the international "''safe mode" that women speak to each other without talking.

third if you want them for lesbian content when during the conversation do you bring that up

Details in interview - see above.

fourth, do you mention pricing??

later - be patient.

Fifth, do you bring a girl along with you to help the introductions?

Oh yeah, absolutely, but I'm a smooth taker by myself too.

Sixty, do most girls go right with you or do you try and set up an appointment?

They come as soon as they are ready to make money. tell them that.

Seventh, what is it about the girl when you first see her that gives you the impression she would be interested?? or is it just having a thick skin??

Yes and no never killed you. Take a deep breath & read www.doubleyourdating.com if you wanna become an expert.

eighth, have you had any experience with canadian girls? Im in toronto

Nice pussy eh? Good stuff! Eh? That's a yes.

see above in ORANGE for answers

BrettJ 03-21-2005 09:15 PM

thanks. i caught that - but the answers weren't very complete.

It's nice when somebody offers up their time to respond to questions from a large group of people. and it's rather insane to try to answer them.

But if you open yourself up... you should try to give decent answers.

He said he was going to talk about model recruitment. I happen to own dormangels so I've done a little bit of it....but it's always cool to share some lessons and tips/tricks.

So I wanted to get a feel for how he does his model recruitment... word of mouth, ads, online scouting, etc.... asked for his %'s ... i was going to do a follow up ... once he told us all how he tends to find his models. and the answers were ...


% that you approach on the street. (100% of the ones interested)
% that respond to ads (he doesn't really advertise)
% that you solicit online/email (whenever i have time)
% that email you from your sites (a bunch, no real numbers)

those responses really didn't answer the questions asked... nor did they help anybody in figuring out what is a good use of time and a bad use of time for model recruiting... cept maybe you could infer that he doesn't like the results of print ads

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
Some good info Peter. I too shoot original content, although I am nowhere near as prolific as you are.

As in any business, word of mouth is the best. Probably 50% of the models/performers that I have worked with came to me via referrals (I also offer a headhunter fee).

The most famous first-timer model that worked with me first was Annie Cruz. Annie e-mailed me after reading the "Models Wanted" section of my site.

Once you have booked a model, the single most important thing that I would emphasize is paperwork - make sure that you have a signed model release and that the first frame in your camera (still/video) is the model holding her ID proving her age.

With that said, if any of you know of any Asian models looking for work (softcore glamour up to hardcore), please e-mail me:

webmaster (AT) asiandivagirls.com

ADG Webmaster

Will do! Annie is married to a friend of mine and I remember your pictures on her OMP profile - good stuff. She found my agency online & wrote to me, but I only had a land line number on her that she heard all my messages on months later after coming to LA. Funny how things work out. I'll send models if I can - put me on your ICQ list. Here's my phone number: 818-360-4352

Peter Romero

TheLegacy 03-21-2005 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
see above in ORANGE for answers


thank you.. very information.

I have always tried to avoid strip joints since from my experience working with flirt4free videosecrets and python - that those girls have a princess / ego problem and demand more attention plus $$

In the past I have found chat rooms and even face to face contact was best when I brought my girlfriend along.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrettJ
thanks. i caught that - but the answers weren't very complete.

It's nice when somebody offers up their time to respond to questions from a large group of people. and it's rather insane to try to answer them.

In times of need - I try to give but my ollady cooked some pop corn so, I'll get to more details when my hands are free.

But if you open yourself up... you should try to give decent answers.

Dude... I type with 2 fingers and I'm hammering the keyboard tonight - ICQ me for more details


He said he was going to talk about model recruitment. I happen to own dormangels so I've done a little bit of it....but it's always cool to share some lessons and tips/tricks.

You reap what you sow - I'm coming from a giving place here and trying to give all that I can. Call me on the phone I can talk 10 times faster than I type. 818-360-4352

So I wanted to get a feel for how he does his model recruitment... word of mouth, ads, online scouting, etc.... asked for his %'s ... i was going to do a follow up ... once he told us all how he tends to find his models. and the answers were ...

% that you approach on the street. (100% of the ones interested)
% that respond to ads (he doesn't really advertise)
% that you solicit online/email (whenever i have time)
% that email you from your sites (a bunch, no real numbers)

Scout 24-7 depending on what works best for you. There is no rule of thumb except that whenever you don't scout - you miss those girls as models 100% of the time.

those responses really didn't answer the questions asked... nor did they help anybody in figuring out what is a good use of time and a bad use of time for model recruiting... cept maybe you could infer that he doesn't like the results of print ads

Well... what can I say? Trying to please everyone is imposible, but I tried.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy
thank you.. very information.

I have always tried to avoid strip joints since from my experience working with flirt4free videosecrets and python - that those girls have a princess / ego problem and demand more attention plus $$

In the past I have found chat rooms and even face to face contact was best when I brought my girlfriend along.

And you got alot of models from me - just ask Rob.

Rice_Master 03-21-2005 09:36 PM

POV GUY... i'm just curious about this statement...

"Ember - I found her in a Trailer Park where I shoulda left her."

can you elaborate?

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rice_Master
POV GUY... i'm just curious about this statement...

"Ember - I found her in a Trailer Park where I shoulda left her."

can you elaborate?

I'm trying to forget her but she was a good find. Actually ALS Scan refered her to me for refering them so many hot models over the years - about 75 or so. Ember is crazy - just ask anyone who ever met her - PURE EVIL!!!

Rice_Master 03-21-2005 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
I'm trying to forget her but she was a good find. Actually ALS Scan refered her to me for refering them so many hot models over the years - about 75 or so. Ember is crazy - just ask anyone who ever met her - PURE EVIL!!!

how so?

this is just out of curiosity... she seems like an angel. :)

shuki 03-21-2005 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
I'm trying to forget her but she was a good find. Actually ALS Scan refered her to me for refering them so many hot models over the years - about 75 or so. Ember is crazy - just ask anyone who ever met her - PURE EVIL!!!


Can't you tell we want more details...we are the gossip board after all :winkwink:

woj 03-21-2005 09:51 PM

50 scouting questions answered........

NaughtyRob 03-21-2005 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
Some good info Peter. I too shoot original content, although I am nowhere near as prolific as you are.

As in any business, word of mouth is the best. Probably 50% of the models/performers that I have worked with came to me via referrals (I also offer a headhunter fee).

The most famous first-timer model that worked with me first was Annie Cruz. Annie e-mailed me after reading the "Models Wanted" section of my site.

Once you have booked a model, the single most important thing that I would emphasize is paperwork - make sure that you have a signed model release and that the first frame in your camera (still/video) is the model holding her ID proving her age.

With that said, if any of you know of any Asian models looking for work (softcore glamour up to hardcore), please e-mail me:

webmaster (AT) asiandivagirls.com

ADG Webmaster

I brought her to Vegas and got her started in the biz in LA.

By the way, good thread Peter.
:winkwink:

And I have a question. You really didnt find Ember in a trailer park you found her in a strip club in Vegas right?

Shoehorn! 03-21-2005 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
see above in ORANGE for answers

Does that double your dating thing really provide some good tips?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-21-2005 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
Will do! Annie is married to a friend of mine and I remember your pictures on her OMP profile - good stuff. She found my agency online & wrote to me, but I only had a land line number on her that she heard all my messages on months later after coming to LA. Funny how things work out. I'll send models if I can - put me on your ICQ list. Here's my phone number: 818-360-4352

Peter Romero

Thanks Peter.

Lots of referrals come in from other photographers and vice versa.

Yeah, Annie got married to Jack Lawrence at the AVN show in Vegas in January. Annie and Jack really fell head over heels for each other. I'm happy for her.

Cheers,

ADG Webmaster

adonthenet 03-21-2005 10:10 PM

very nice.
i dont have q =)

AdPatron 03-21-2005 10:16 PM

Save your time and energy "scouting" -lol. Just go to One Model Place....

http://www.onemodelplace.com

AdultX 03-21-2005 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrettJ
besides omp ... are there any other good online sites for model recruiting?

Check out My Site - www.AdultxModels.com - We work just like OMP but only for Adult Work.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ContentProducer
I brought her to Vegas and got her started in the biz in LA.

By the way, good thread Peter.
:winkwink:

And I have a question. You really didnt find Ember in a trailer park you found her in a strip club in Vegas right?

Als Scan sent her to me - and then I blew her up: Hustler, Barely Legal Video, Genesis Magazine cover & centerfold, Buncha mags, sites, videos etc. But I had to call the cops on her for pulling a knife on 2 of my models & breaking into my office. She had some idiot sending e-mails everywhere saying that she was underage to get her content off the net but I don't know if anyone was STUPID ENOUGH to fall for that crap as I've seen her school yearbook & got her a passport at the LA Office in West LA. Trust me, she's a phsycho bitch from hell. She calls me crying sorry every once in a while, but I don't buy it.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CollegeSucks
Save your time and energy "scouting" -lol. Just go to One Model Place....

http://www.onemodelplace.com

Only as a fun hobby. Don't take that place seriously. A sea of BS.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-21-2005 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ContentProducer
I brought her (Annie) to Vegas and got her started in the biz in LA.

Actually I brought Annie to Vegas with me in January 2004 and introduced her to lots of people, so maybe we met there.

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/annie-cruz-vegas.jpg

Are/were you with ModelGig/Limelight?

I know she went back out to Las Vegas and did some stuff with Limelight before heading to LA, where she had some not so good experiences with some people before finally landing on her feet and building a pretty good career for herself so far (closing in on 100 scenes last I checked).

Please e-mail me if you think there is anyway we can mutually benefit each other. I don't buy content, but if you ever refer models, I'm always on the lookout (have to be Asian though, LOL). I know of models looking for work, although probably most of the ones you don't know already mostly do softcore/glam stuff and they live here in the San Francisco Bay Area.

Check my site...I have 60+ models posted so far (plus dozens more to post).

ADG Webmaster

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultX
Check out My Site - www.AdultxModels.com - We work just like OMP but only for Adult Work.

This thread is for finding new girls not hiring from an agency.

Juicy D. Links 03-21-2005 10:32 PM

Is my pass still working? I want to rub one out.

PokerCams 03-21-2005 10:33 PM

one before i crash

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
Is my pass still working? I want to rub one out.

I'llmake you a new one - ICQ

Spunky 03-21-2005 10:36 PM

Intresting thread :thumbsup

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-21-2005 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CollegeSucks
Save your time and energy "scouting" -lol. Just go to One Model Place....

http://www.onemodelplace.com

I've hired several models from OMP. In most cases I was the first photographer to pay them.

A problem I have noticed with OMP is that there are so many fake photographers trolling there with "test shoot" and TFP scams that many models quit after a few/several bad experiences.

As soon as a model with any decent looks posts her portfolio on OMP she is deluged with e-mails. The main thing I have going for me to stand out from the pack is that I can point them to my web site and show them right away that they will make money with me.

ADG Webmaster

Gateway69 03-21-2005 10:43 PM

should submit them to http://xposedmodels.com free online dir.

AdultX 03-21-2005 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
This thread is for finding new girls not hiring from an agency.


We are in no way an agency, we are like OMP you place bookings to the models. We do work with producers from time to time who contact us to find specific models for them, but other then that we do not work like an agency.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
I've hired several models from OMP. In most cases I was the first photographer to pay them.

A problem I have noticed with OMP is that there are so many fake photographers trolling there with "test shoot" and TFP scams that many models quit after a few/several bad experiences.

As soon as a model with any decent looks posts her portfolio on OMP she is deluged with e-mails. The main thing I have going for me to stand out from the pack is that I can point them to my web site and show them right away that they will make money with me.

ADG Webmaster

I agree with you 100% except they wont let me link any of my sites to my profile and some idiot from So-Cal Pro Models is a hater of the adult industry and he is buddy buddy with the owner of OMP ad kicked me, Robert Fererah and many others off for scouting for actual paid legitimate PUBLISHED jobs to make way for his test TFP bullshit.

Mutt 03-21-2005 10:47 PM

nothing about Luna? :Oh crap

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultX
We are in no way an agency, we are like OMP you place bookings to the models. We do work with producers from time to time who contact us to find specific models for them, but other then that we do not work like an agency.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Yeah, well that may be the case, but I'm trying to help people find brand spankin new girls that never shot before.

Relish XXX 03-21-2005 10:50 PM

Best way to get models is to put adverts out by the local unemployment agency when girls are going in to pick up there unemployment benefits. Better still actually go down there is person. 1 in 4 will do hardcore for you.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
nothing about Luna? :Oh crap

Found her in a strip club in Oregon bruised & badly beaten by her boyfriend and had to tan her & rehabilitate her for a week before we could actually get a good shot of her. One of the hottest I found yet. Post a picture from your collection.

AdultX 03-21-2005 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
Yeah, well that may be the case, but I'm trying to help people find brand spankin new girls that never shot before.

I do the same, i go out and scout for talent just like you. We are always bringing new talent to the site. We are here for both amateurs and professionals.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-21-2005 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
I agree with you 100% except they wont let me link any of my sites to my profile and some idiot from So-Cal Pro Models is a hater of the adult industry and he is buddy buddy with the owner of OMP ad kicked me, Robert Fererah and many others off for scouting for actual paid legitimate PUBLISHED jobs to make way for his test TFP bullshit.

No wonder I never booked anything through So-Cal Pro Models even though I e-mailed them several times.

It sucks that OMP discontinued links to adults sites too, while they let all these fake ass photographers post links to their free hosted sites and con models into working (and getting hit on) for free.

ADG Webmaster

Mutt 03-21-2005 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
Found her in a strip club in Oregon bruised & badly beaten by her boyfriend and had to tan her & rehabilitate her for a week before we could actually get a good shot of her. One of the hottest I found yet. Post a picture from your collection.

all my Luna Lane pix are gone, had to wipe out a hard drive after a bad spyware infestation. i know where to get some nice ones tho,

http://www.ddgirls.com

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
nothing about Luna? :Oh crap

Or Jordan - your other favorite...
http://povcash.com/hosted/Jordan/15.jpg

Found her working as a waitress in an AZ strip club. She drove out to LA once and couldn't dial my number from her cell and drove back home. Then she kept my card for a year and called me outta the blue one day. I have the only hardcore boy/girl of her. 3 shoots all in a row - I couldn't last too long with her in one sitting.

AdultX 03-21-2005 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
No wonder I never booked anything through So-Cal Pro Models even though I e-mailed them several times.

It sucks that OMP discontinued links to adults sites too, while they let all these fake ass photographers post links to their free hosted sites and con models into working (and getting hit on) for free.

ADG Webmaster


I agree, I have worked through OMP for years, since it was free, and never had a problem, but now they have been getting bad and hassling me more and more. they used to let me link to my site, but have now cut the link.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
No wonder I never booked anything through So-Cal Pro Models even though I e-mailed them several times.

It sucks that OMP discontinued links to adults sites too, while they let all these fake ass photographers post links to their free hosted sites and con models into working (and getting hit on) for free.

ADG Webmaster

Ex fuckin xactly!!! It should be called one hobby place - for all the wanna be's on there.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultX
I agree, I have worked through OMP for years, since it was free, and never had a problem, but now they have been getting bad and hassling me more and more. they used to let me link to my site, but have now cut the link.

Well now... we wouldn't want models actually getting paid shoots and leaving OMP and it's self praise now would we? That would be bad for a site that preys upon naiveity of your girls & thier asperations of being a art nude model from joe shmo from Idaho with no clue, skills or dough... now would we?Hmmm....


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