People using CCBill sub accounts be careful.... - GoFuckYourself.com

sonofsam · 03-21-2005, 02:58 PM

I thought this would be my only option since i am in canada...... and as far as i know.. no incorporation company will sign visa contract on your behalf..... so i sent an email to ccbill asking them if its okay to have a sub account under someone....

now.... 1 phone rep said it was completely okay, another rep said he didn't know.... and then this one said it was against visa rules and could have account suspended...

The main account holder on an account can only set up subaccounts that he operates/has control over, owns, etc?what you describe below is a violation of Visa rules and is a violation of our AUP, which if discovered may result in account suspension.

What client account # are you referring to?

-Mark

obviously i didn't tell him which client it was that offered me the sub acccount....so i don't know what to do now.... i wanted to incorporate in the states and then sign up with paycom or ccbill... but when i asked them they said company OWNER has LIVE in the states... and supply US drivers licence number etc and sign docs.....

so i guess verotel is my only option??? but downfall is affiliates don't like verotel.. and using hosted galleries is near impossible with verotel...

Sly · 03-21-2005, 03:00 PM

There are several Canadians running paysites using CCBill. Buy them dinner, maybe you'll learn a thing or two...

sonofsam · 03-21-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

There are several Canadians running paysites using CCBill. Buy them dinner, maybe you'll learn a thing or two...

everyone i've asked to date have either 1.) a partner in the states or 2.) got their account when it was a lot easier back in the day

sonofsam · 03-21-2005, 03:06 PM

Bump//////////////////

gecko · 03-21-2005, 03:09 PM

Can't a resident agent do it? The resident agent where you incorporate.

sonofsam · 03-21-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gecko

Can't a resident agent do it? The resident agent where you incorporate.

i asked, they said they wont sign.....

Shooting_Manic · 03-21-2005, 03:14 PM

You dont need to incorp. in the US to do what you want to do.

The main sponsor sets up the sub account for you. They fax in your pay info (who to make the check out to and what not). Ccbill cuts you a check every money for the sales that sub account does based on the percentage that you and the main account holder agrees upon. Its really easy and done all the time.

You do not need to set up all that stuff. Its kinda like being an affiliate really.

Makingcoin · 03-21-2005, 03:17 PM

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pornguy · 03-21-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

You dont need to incorp. in the US to do what you want to do.

The main sponsor sets up the sub account for you. They fax in your pay info (who to make the check out to and what not). Ccbill cuts you a check every money for the sales that sub account does based on the percentage that you and the main account holder agrees upon. Its really easy and done all the time.

You do not need to set up all that stuff. Its kinda like being an affiliate really.

That is the mistake that he made. Just set it up as an aff program. Set the % and you are done.

emmanuelle · 03-21-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

i asked, they said they wont sign.....

Nobody is gonna sign and take the risk for a guy who has no paysite experience

who · 03-21-2005, 03:24 PM

fuck, thanks for the headsup

sonofsam · 03-21-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by emmanuelle

Nobody is gonna sign and take the risk for a guy who has no paysite experience

umm... i was talking about the Incorporation company....

BVF · 03-21-2005, 03:27 PM

Fuck I didn't know that was against their terms of service. I know somebody who lost their globill is doing that very thing right now with a ccbill paysite owner and has been doing it for at LEAST a year.

(obviously I won't rat)

emmanuelle · 03-21-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

umm... i was talking about the Incorporation company....

They dont want to risk losing their own ability to accept Visa, and probably don't really want to be associated with porn

emmanuelle · 03-21-2005, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

Fuck I didn't know that was against their terms of service. I know somebody who lost their globill is doing that very thing right now with a ccbill paysite owner and has been doing it for at LEAST a year.

(obviously I won't rat)

Yes it can be done, if the company (with the visa status) has an ownership role.
The contracts must be partnership agreements, not management.

Shooting_Manic · 03-21-2005, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

Yes it can be done, if the company (with the visa status) has an ownership role.
The contracts must be partnership agreements, not management.

Thank you

V_RocKs · 03-21-2005, 03:39 PM

This is going on with more fingers than you have available to count on without a partner. It is ahh... normal... but shhh... it isn't happening here ;)

whatif_3 · 03-21-2005, 03:44 PM

comedy

yes, how can i process through ccbill without having to mess with the Visa BS??? what do you think they are going to say? This IS the reason that globill lost their ability to process, dont you remember? this thread is comedy, just move to the US

iwantchixx · 03-21-2005, 03:47 PM

this is fucked. Why won't visa let canadians use ccbill?

Makes no sense.

Shoplifter · 03-21-2005, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

affiliates don't like verotel.. and using hosted galleries is near impossible with verotel...

Huh? This is all news to me.

emmanuelle · 03-21-2005, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

this is fucked. Why won't visa let canadians use ccbill?

Makes no sense.

An ipsp can only sponsor merchants in countries where they have a banking relationship. Since no Canadian bank will touch porn, Canadian companies are forced to seek alternative ways to remain in business.

sonofsam · 03-21-2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatif_3

comedy

yes, how can i process through ccbill without having to mess with the Visa BS??? what do you think they are going to say? This IS the reason that globill lost their ability to process, dont you remember? this thread is comedy, just move to the US

......what a helpfull suggestion

d00t · 03-21-2005, 04:37 PM

forget ccbill

Kevsh · 03-21-2005, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

this is fucked. Why won't visa let canadians use ccbill?

Makes no sense.

I agree, every since we sent some infected cows down there all hells broken loose...

slavdogg · 03-21-2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

An ipsp can only sponsor merchants in countries where they have a banking relationship. Since no Canadian bank will touch porn, Canadian companies are forced to seek alternative ways to remain in business.

its been like that pretty much since day one
What does it take to open a bank in Canada ? i see a huge opportunity here

03-21-2005, 02:58 PM	#1
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	People using CCBill sub accounts be careful.... I thought this would be my only option since i am in canada...... and as far as i know.. no incorporation company will sign visa contract on your behalf..... so i sent an email to ccbill asking them if its okay to have a sub account under someone.... now.... 1 phone rep said it was completely okay, another rep said he didn't know.... and then this one said it was against visa rules and could have account suspended... The main account holder on an account can only set up subaccounts that he operates/has control over, owns, etc?what you describe below is a violation of Visa rules and is a violation of our AUP, which if discovered may result in account suspension. What client account # are you referring to? -Mark obviously i didn't tell him which client it was that offered me the sub acccount....so i don't know what to do now.... i wanted to incorporate in the states and then sign up with paycom or ccbill... but when i asked them they said company OWNER has LIVE in the states... and supply US drivers licence number etc and sign docs..... so i guess verotel is my only option??? but downfall is affiliates don't like verotel.. and using hosted galleries is near impossible with verotel... __________________ I like turtles.

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03-21-2005, 03:44 PM	#18
whatif_3 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 459	comedy yes, how can i process through ccbill without having to mess with the Visa BS??? what do you think they are going to say? This IS the reason that globill lost their ability to process, dont you remember? this thread is comedy, just move to the US

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iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	this is fucked. Why won't visa let canadians use ccbill? Makes no sense.

03-21-2005, 04:37 PM	#23
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