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  • sonofsam
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2004
    • 18642

    #1

    People using CCBill sub accounts be careful....

    I thought this would be my only option since i am in canada...... and as far as i know.. no incorporation company will sign visa contract on your behalf..... so i sent an email to ccbill asking them if its okay to have a sub account under someone....

    now.... 1 phone rep said it was completely okay, another rep said he didn't know.... and then this one said it was against visa rules and could have account suspended...


    The main account holder on an account can only set up subaccounts that he operates/has control over, owns, etc?what you describe below is a violation of Visa rules and is a violation of our AUP, which if discovered may result in account suspension.



    What client account # are you referring to?

    -Mark


    obviously i didn't tell him which client it was that offered me the sub acccount....so i don't know what to do now.... i wanted to incorporate in the states and then sign up with paycom or ccbill... but when i asked them they said company OWNER has LIVE in the states... and supply US drivers licence number etc and sign docs.....

    so i guess verotel is my only option??? but downfall is affiliates don't like verotel.. and using hosted galleries is near impossible with verotel...


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  • Sly
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    • Sep 2004
    • 31376

    #2
    There are several Canadians running paysites using CCBill. Buy them dinner, maybe you'll learn a thing or two...
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    • sonofsam
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2004
      • 18642

      #3
      Originally posted by Sly
      There are several Canadians running paysites using CCBill. Buy them dinner, maybe you'll learn a thing or two...
      everyone i've asked to date have either 1.) a partner in the states or 2.) got their account when it was a lot easier back in the day
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      • sonofsam
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2004
        • 18642

        #4
        Bump//////////////////
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        • gecko
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          • Jun 2002
          • 21846

          #5
          Can't a resident agent do it? The resident agent where you incorporate.
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          • sonofsam
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2004
            • 18642

            #6
            Originally posted by gecko
            Can't a resident agent do it? The resident agent where you incorporate.
            i asked, they said they wont sign.....
            I like turtles.

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            • Shooting_Manic
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jan 2005
              • 1740

              #7
              You dont need to incorp. in the US to do what you want to do.

              The main sponsor sets up the sub account for you. They fax in your pay info (who to make the check out to and what not). Ccbill cuts you a check every money for the sales that sub account does based on the percentage that you and the main account holder agrees upon. Its really easy and done all the time.

              You do not need to set up all that stuff. Its kinda like being an affiliate really.
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              • Makingcoin
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                • Aug 2002
                • 8919

                #8
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                • pornguy
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 62912

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                  You dont need to incorp. in the US to do what you want to do.

                  The main sponsor sets up the sub account for you. They fax in your pay info (who to make the check out to and what not). Ccbill cuts you a check every money for the sales that sub account does based on the percentage that you and the main account holder agrees upon. Its really easy and done all the time.

                  You do not need to set up all that stuff. Its kinda like being an affiliate really.
                  That is the mistake that he made. Just set it up as an aff program. Set the % and you are done.
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                  • emmanuelle
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 3662

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sonofsam
                    i asked, they said they wont sign.....

                    Nobody is gonna sign and take the risk for a guy who has no paysite experience

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                    • who
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 19593

                      #11
                      fuck, thanks for the headsup

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                      • sonofsam
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 18642

                        #12
                        Originally posted by emmanuelle
                        Nobody is gonna sign and take the risk for a guy who has no paysite experience
                        umm... i was talking about the Incorporation company....
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                        • BVF
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                          • Jan 2002
                          • 13975

                          #13
                          Fuck I didn't know that was against their terms of service. I know somebody who lost their globill is doing that very thing right now with a ccbill paysite owner and has been doing it for at LEAST a year.

                          (obviously I won't rat)

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                          • emmanuelle
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 3662

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sonofsam
                            umm... i was talking about the Incorporation company....

                            They dont want to risk losing their own ability to accept Visa, and probably don't really want to be associated with porn

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                            • emmanuelle
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 3662

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BVF
                              Fuck I didn't know that was against their terms of service. I know somebody who lost their globill is doing that very thing right now with a ccbill paysite owner and has been doing it for at LEAST a year.

                              (obviously I won't rat)
                              Yes it can be done, if the company (with the visa status) has an ownership role.
                              The contracts must be partnership agreements, not management.

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                              • Shooting_Manic
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1740

                                #16
                                Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                Yes it can be done, if the company (with the visa status) has an ownership role.
                                The contracts must be partnership agreements, not management.
                                Thank you

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                                • V_RocKs
                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 32449

                                  #17
                                  This is going on with more fingers than you have available to count on without a partner. It is ahh... normal... but shhh... it isn't happening here ;)

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                                  • whatif_3
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2004
                                    • 459

                                    #18
                                    comedy

                                    yes, how can i process through ccbill without having to mess with the Visa BS??? what do you think they are going to say? This IS the reason that globill lost their ability to process, dont you remember? this thread is comedy, just move to the US

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                                    • iwantchixx
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 12860

                                      #19
                                      this is fucked. Why won't visa let canadians use ccbill?

                                      Makes no sense.

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                                      • Shoplifter
                                        Richest man in Babylon
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 5848

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sonofsam
                                        affiliates don't like verotel.. and using hosted galleries is near impossible with verotel...

                                        Huh? This is all news to me.
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                                        • emmanuelle
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 3662

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                          this is fucked. Why won't visa let canadians use ccbill?

                                          Makes no sense.

                                          An ipsp can only sponsor merchants in countries where they have a banking relationship. Since no Canadian bank will touch porn, Canadian companies are forced to seek alternative ways to remain in business.

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                                          • sonofsam
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 18642

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by whatif_3
                                            comedy

                                            yes, how can i process through ccbill without having to mess with the Visa BS??? what do you think they are going to say? This IS the reason that globill lost their ability to process, dont you remember? this thread is comedy, just move to the US
                                            ......what a helpfull suggestion
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                                            • d00t
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 3766

                                              #23
                                              forget ccbill

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                                              • Kevsh
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2004
                                                • 8619

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                this is fucked. Why won't visa let canadians use ccbill?

                                                Makes no sense.
                                                I agree, every since we sent some infected cows down there all hells broken loose...

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                                                • slavdogg
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 3570

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                                  An ipsp can only sponsor merchants in countries where they have a banking relationship. Since no Canadian bank will touch porn, Canadian companies are forced to seek alternative ways to remain in business.
                                                  its been like that pretty much since day one
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