Thieves using voip caller-id spoofing to empty visa accounts - GoFuckYourself.com

SmokeyTheBear · 03-20-2005, 10:02 PM

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Wire-transfer services like Western Union require customers to call from their home phone when they want to transfer money in an effort to deter fraud -- a barrier easily sidestepped by any identity thief using a caller-ID spoofing service. Fraud rings can now transfer money directly out of stolen credit-card accounts, rather than buying merchandise and reselling it, he said.

Western Union spokeswoman Danielle Periera said the company has no other way to verify that transfer requests are valid. "We try hard to stay one step ahead of them and recognize that scam artists are sophisticated and often change their schemes," she said.
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or you can just use it to freak the shit out of your friends, or change there cell phone message

try the free spoofing demo to your own phone here

http://www.covertcall.com

Fred Quimby · 03-20-2005, 10:03 PM

I just read abt that

5 cents per call aint 2 bad

Juicy D. Links · 03-20-2005, 10:04 PM

damn

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smack · 03-20-2005, 10:04 PM

the ingenuity of thieves is constantly evolving.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-20-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Quimby

I just read abt that

5 cents per call aint 2 bad

per minute with most

the link i provided above you can do 3 way caller-id spoofing and you can record the calls.

Pete-KT · 03-20-2005, 10:15 PM

that would be funny to trick friends, but it sucks when it comes to stealign money

Crypt · 03-20-2005, 10:27 PM

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Wire-transfer services like Western Union require customers to call from their home phone when they want to transfer money in an effort to deter fraud -- a barrier easily .....

haha i love your creative spam here ;)

SmokeyTheBear · 03-20-2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crypt

haha i love your creative spam here ;)

How dare you sir

Furious_Female · 03-20-2005, 10:31 PM

That's rather scary.

Crypt · 03-20-2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

How dare you sir

hehe seriously, i like your marketing tactics on this sponsor ;)

Chio The Pirate · 03-20-2005, 10:33 PM

YARGH! I love your posts Smokey. Better than me refried guppy head stew.

Spunky · 03-20-2005, 10:33 PM

Fucked up..I'm paranoid as it is doing online banking

Shoehorn! · 03-20-2005, 10:39 PM

I've been going to try this out, has anyone given them their CC info and actually paid to use this yet?

SmokeyTheBear · 03-20-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

I've been going to try this out, has anyone given them their CC info and actually paid to use this yet?

Yes lots , i first posted a few weeks ago and i have over 70 clients signed up and am using the premium services. everything works good.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-20-2005, 10:42 PM

i started getting referral cash within hours of signing up , and also was spending the cash using their own service within hours , so im assuming its fairly instant..

yuvalus · 03-20-2005, 10:58 PM

OR the ppl at western unon would have to call back to the phone number

hydro · 03-20-2005, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yuvalus

OR the ppl at western unon would have to call back to the phone number

that'd be a simple solution, sure it might mean more work for the people over at western union but damn thier fee's are so high as it is

OzMan · 03-20-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by yuvalus

OR the ppl at western unon would have to call back to the phone number

That's exactly what they did the other day when my VOIP phone number didn't show up on their caller ID.

The first time the woman wouldn't believe me, the second time I convinced her to call me to prove I was at that number

"What number are you calling from now?"

I tell her my number

"No you're not"

er, yes I am. It's a VOIP phone and the caller ID info doesn't always get passed...

"What's a VOIP phone?...."

SmokeyTheBear · 03-21-2005, 05:00 AM

It also works great for ordering pizza's to people you dont like or want to annoy , bu ising their number as spoofed number

reynold · 03-21-2005, 05:02 AM

Oh man, that's fucked up.

rowan · 03-21-2005, 01:34 PM

Surely the carriers that they're connecting to are going to clamp down on this? I presume there's something similar to BGP in the phone network to allow routing of calls, so sooner or later someone is going to make a software patch that quietly nulls caller ID numbers that are not routed to (or owned by) that particular carrier

infecto · 03-21-2005, 01:42 PM

caller id spoofing has been around for a bit and there is a way you can get around it without even paying for the service ;)

03-20-2005, 10:02 PM	#1
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03-20-2005, 10:04 PM	#4
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03-20-2005, 10:42 PM	#15
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	i started getting referral cash within hours of signing up , and also was spending the cash using their own service within hours , so im assuming its fairly instant.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-20-2005, 10:58 PM	#16
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03-21-2005, 05:00 AM	#19
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	It also works great for ordering pizza's to people you dont like or want to annoy , bu ising their number as spoofed number __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-21-2005, 05:02 AM	#20
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Oh man, that's fucked up.

03-21-2005, 01:34 PM	#21
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Surely the carriers that they're connecting to are going to clamp down on this? I presume there's something similar to BGP in the phone network to allow routing of calls, so sooner or later someone is going to make a software patch that quietly nulls caller ID numbers that are not routed to (or owned by) that particular carrier

03-21-2005, 01:42 PM	#22
infecto Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,697	caller id spoofing has been around for a bit and there is a way you can get around it without even paying for the service ;)