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fusionx · 03-17-2005, 03:44 PM

This has pissed me off for a long time now

Is The Netherlands a country, a region or what?

What the fuck is "dutch"? Is that a language or a place or a medical condition?

Just kidding.. seriously, I don't know the relationship between, say "Holland", "The Netherlands" and "Dutch".

Would someone care to educate me on this? I think - Amsterdam is a city in Holland which is in The Netherlands where people are Dutch, and speak Dutch.

Or is The Netherlands a region in Holland?

Ok - I'm confused.

Thanks

adonthenet · 03-17-2005, 03:45 PM

country - Holland - Netherlands
language Dutch

I think .. :S you got me confused as well hehe

BV · 03-17-2005, 03:47 PM

i might be wrong but the Dutch prefer the spelling: Nederlands

Rick Latona · 03-17-2005, 03:48 PM

This will be a long thread.

Damian_Maxcash · 03-17-2005, 03:48 PM

Its just another name for Holland

And people from Holland are Dutch

grumpy · 03-17-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by adonthenet

country - Holland - Netherlands
language Dutch

I think .. :S you got me confused as well hehe

Holland = hollow land
Nederland = down land

same words for the same country.

both subscribe in a sense that holland is below sea level ( around 30 feet )

ssp · 03-17-2005, 03:49 PM

My god you are ignorant.

Rick Latona · 03-17-2005, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx

This has pissed me off for a long time now

Is The Netherlands a country, a region or what?

What the fuck is "dutch"? Is that a language or a place or a medical condition?

Just kidding.. seriously, I don't know the relationship between, say "Holland", "The Netherlands" and "Dutch".

Would someone care to educate me on this? I think - Amsterdam is a city in Holland which is in The Netherlands where people are Dutch, and speak Dutch.

Or is The Netherlands a region in Holland?

Ok - I'm confused.

Thanks

The Netherlands is a kingdom. Holland is in the kingdom along with Aruba, Bonair and Curacao. They speak Dutch.

fusionx · 03-17-2005, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

i might be wrong but the Dutch prefer the spelling: Nederlands

Could be - no offense meant to anyone.. 'cept the Dutch..

Actually, what has me interested is I just found out that my grandfather on my dad's side is Dutch. So I have a Dutch name. So I'm at least 1/4 Dutch. We always thought it was Austrian or German. Interesting. It's not an obviously German or Dutch name.

adonthenet · 03-17-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

Its just another name for Holland

And people from Holland are Dutch

exactly what i think it is.

Nembrionic · 03-17-2005, 03:51 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland

Read that.
And they're right.

But people mean they same thing when they mention Holland or The Netherlands --> the country itself.

Dutch is our language alright, but I believe it's the English speaking people that came up with it.

We call it 'nederlands' ('netherlands', seems logical doesn't it?)
Like Germany language is called 'German'.

So for the record of all the assholes that go like this:

-"I'm Dutch!"
"Aaah...you're German!?!"

No dammit. Dutch is NOT the same as Deutsch, which is what the Germans call their own language(Germany->Deutschland. Germans speak "Deutsch")

Pronounciation.
Deutsch: Doitsch
Dutch: Datch

FINALLY see the difference?

Rick Latona · 03-17-2005, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx

Could be - no offense meant to anyone.. 'cept the Dutch..

Actually, what has me interested is I just found out that my grandfather on my dad's side is Dutch. So I have a Dutch name. So I'm at least 1/4 Dutch. We always thought it was Austrian or German. Interesting. It's not an obviously German or Dutch name.

What is your name? We'll tell you what it means.

grumpy · 03-17-2005, 03:51 PM

so what is your last name?

fusionx · 03-17-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ssp

My god you are ignorant.

I know that! That's why I'm asking

Dirty Dane · 03-17-2005, 03:53 PM

So Hellas is capital of Greece?

grumpy · 03-17-2005, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nembrionic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland

Read that.
And they're right.

But people mean they same thing when they mention Holland or The Netherlands.

Dutch is our language alright, but I believe it's the English speaking people that came up with it.

We call it 'nederlands' ('netherlands', seems logical doesn't it?)
Like Germany is called 'German'.

So for the record of all the assholes that go like this:

-"I'm Dutch!"
"Aaah...you're German!?!"

No dammit. Dutch is NOT the same as Deutsch, which is what the Germans call their own language(Germany->Deutschland. Germans speak "Deutsch")

Pronounciation.
Deutsch: Doitsch
Dutch: Datch

FINALLY see the difference?

English people came up with it because they thought it was Deutsch

Platinumpimp · 03-17-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adonthenet

exactly what i think it is.

Exactly, just like the Fench have "Pays-Bas" named as Holland.

It literally means "Low Land".

sweetME · 03-17-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ssp

My god you are ignorant.

He just wants to confirm something he's not sure of.

Dirty Dane · 03-17-2005, 03:54 PM

and Great Britain is the best part of United Kingdom

GatorB · 03-17-2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx

This has pissed me off for a long time now

Is The Netherlands a country, a region or what?

What the fuck is "dutch"? Is that a language or a place or a medical condition?

Just kidding.. seriously, I don't know the relationship between, say "Holland", "The Netherlands" and "Dutch".

Would someone care to educate me on this? I think - Amsterdam is a city in Holland which is in The Netherlands where people are Dutch, and speak Dutch.

Or is The Netherlands a region in Holland?

Ok - I'm confused.

Thanks

Ok you live in AMERICA yet you speak ENGLISH. Shouldn't you be speaking AMERICAN?

fusionx · 03-17-2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nembrionic

No dammit. Dutch is NOT the same as Deutsch, which is what the Germans call their own language(Germany->Deutschland. Germans speak "Deutsch")

I've always known the difference between Deutsch and Dutch. The German language never entered into this. We always thought we were of German descent. But, someone in nmy family just traced the records back, and it turns out my Grandfather's relatives migrated to the US from Holland.

The name is "Beer", but the original spelling may be different.

Rick Latona · 03-17-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

and Great Britain is the best part of United Kingdom

Great Britain is the Island. England is the country.

Dirty Dane · 03-17-2005, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Latona

Great Britain is the Island. England is the country.

England?

Rick Latona · 03-17-2005, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx

I've always known the difference between Deutsch and Dutch. The German language never entered into this. We always thought we were of German descent. But, someone in nmy family just traced the records back, and it turns out my Grandfather's relatives migrated to the US from Holland.

The name is "Beer", but the original spelling may be different.

That's a very famous name. De Beers was founded by the Dutch and they completely control the diamond trade. They don't have an office in the States because they'd be sued for anti-trust.

ssp · 03-17-2005, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx

I know that! That's why I'm asking

This thread must only confuse you more. Let me clue you in.

When people talk about Holland or The Netherlands, they mean the same thing. They refer to the country, located next to Germany and Belgium. Dutch is the language and the people are called "the Dutch".

So where does the confusion come from? A long time ago we conquered some islands. They all belong to "The Kingdom Of The Netherlands". However, The Netherlands itself, it the country.

Don't look at that Wikipedia link about "Holland". Yes, it's true that there are 2 of the 12 provinces in The Netherlands called "South-Holland" and "North-Holland", and combined they make "Holland", but that is NOT what ppl refer to when they talk about Holland. They refer to the country. Forget that province crap.

grumpy · 03-17-2005, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx

I've always known the difference between Deutsch and Dutch. The German language never entered into this. We always thought we were of German descent. But, someone in nmy family just traced the records back, and it turns out my Grandfather's relatives migrated to the US from Holland.

The name is "Beer", but the original spelling may be different.

Your name comes from Bier witch is Beer. Some will say it will come from Bear but thats not right.

LowRider · 03-17-2005, 04:00 PM

I'll give you this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands

And still I wonder if people are aware that google exists..

fusionx · 03-17-2005, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy

Your name comes from Bier witch is Beer. Some will say it will come from Bear but thats not right.

hehe - we ordered a coat of arms in the 70's from some crap company... had a bear on it..

We do believe it's originally "Bier".

We always thought is was German or Austrian.. pretty interesting to find out it's Dutch.

Thanks!

grumpy · 03-17-2005, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssp

Dutch is the language and the people are called "the Dutch".

No they are from Nederland and they speak Nederlands. Dutch is what the english made of it. Because Nederland was so hard to pronounce they made it Hollowland....wich becam Holland.

They thought it was Deutsh so they made a slang out of it . . Dutch.

ssp · 03-17-2005, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy

Your name comes from Bier witch is Beer. Some will say it will come from Bear but thats not right.

LOL Now the Dutch language is even starting to confuse me, hehe.

"beer" in Dutch, means "bear" in English.
"bier" in Dutch, means "beer" in English.

grumpy is probably right though, your name is most likely be derived from the Dutch word "bier". Or it might just mean "bear".

LOL Dutch sucks.

Mike Okitch · 03-17-2005, 04:02 PM

Didn't George Costanza already ask about this once?

fusionx · 03-17-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ssp

This thread must only confuse you more. Let me clue you in.

I think what messed me up was that The Netherlands = Holland. I truly thought The Netherlands was a region, that Holland was a part of.

My bad grammer aside... I think I've got it now.

ssp · 03-17-2005, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy

No they are from Nederland and they speak Nederlands. Dutch is what the english made of it. Because Nederland was so hard to pronounce they made it Hollowland....wich becam Holland.

They thought it was Deutsh so they made a slang out of it . . Dutch.

OK Man, I'm not speaking Dutch on this board. I'm speaking English, no in fact, if you read it out loud, I'm speaking Brittish. But wait, you guys are Americans right? Wait, do Canadian people speak English too?

nikki99 · 03-17-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Latona

The Netherlands is a kingdom. Holland is in the kingdom along with Aruba, Bonair and Curacao. They speak Dutch.

very nice ...

grumpy · 03-17-2005, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssp

OK Man, I'm not speaking Dutch on this board. I'm speaking English, no in fact, if you read it out loud, I'm speaking Brittish. But wait, you guys are Americans right? Wait, do Canadian people speak English too?

fusionx · 03-17-2005, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

That's a very famous name. De Beers was founded by the Dutch and they completely control the diamond trade. They don't have an office in the States because they'd be sued for anti-trust.

Maybe I've got an old great-great-great uncle somewhere who will put me in his diamond will

No clue if our line is any relation to the De Beers. Would be cool..

Thanks Rick

nikki99 · 03-17-2005, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy

that holland is below sea level ( around 30 feet )

that means they have more pressure?

LowRider · 03-17-2005, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssp

Don't look at that Wikipedia link about "Holland". Yes, it's true that there are 2 of the 12 provinces in The Netherlands called "South-Holland" and "North-Holland", and combined they make "Holland", but that is NOT what ppl refer to when they talk about Holland. They refer to the country. Forget that province crap.

true... but anyways, I've found that if you have a question, and google can't answer it for you, then try http://wikipedia.org - more often than not, I get my answer.

ArkansasDave · 03-17-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Latona

Great Britain is the Island. England is the country.

Yes, along with Scottland and Wales

ssp · 03-17-2005, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowRider

true... but anyways, I've found that if you have a question, and google can't answer it for you, then try http://wikipedia.org - more often than not, I get my answer.

You're right. I wasn't saying don't look at Wikipedia. I was saying "don't look at that Wikipedia link about Holland". It's better to check out the Wikipedia link about The Netherlands.

God so much confusion in this thread. I think I forgot who I am now.

Dirty Dane · 03-17-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasDave

Yes, along with Scottland and Wales

Wales is part of France

DutchTeenCash · 03-17-2005, 04:11 PM

gotta love us dutchies ;) Best way to learn bout it, is to jump on a plane and come visit the 200 sq miles

Rick Latona · 03-17-2005, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkansasDave

Yes, along with Scottland and Wales

I thought that was implied in my statement.

You remember what happened last time we argued about history and geography. You got owned!

DutchTeenCash · 03-17-2005, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Wales is part of France

1. youre dumb
2. youre posting to annoy

tell me which one is it ?

Fake Nick · 03-17-2005, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

That's a very famous name. De Beers was founded by the Dutch and they completely control the diamond trade. They don't have an office in the States because they'd be sued for anti-trust.

de beers is not the same as BEER ,

and even if his names was Beer dont make him related ;)

for example , my grandfather last name is Magnus , my grandmother Wagner ? ?

do I have very famous roots now ? ;)

Dirty Dane · 03-17-2005, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx

1. youre dumb
2. youre posting to annoy

tell me which one is it ?

They bought it on Ebay few days ago

Rick Latona · 03-17-2005, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fake Nick

de beers is not the same as BEER ,

and even if his names was Beer dont make him related ;)

for example , my grandfather last name is Magnus , my grandmother Wagner ? ?

do I have very famous roots now ? ;)

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. My answer was more interesting. ;)

Fake Nick · 03-17-2005, 04:15 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wagner

my grandmother is from germany ;)

DutchTeenCash · 03-17-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

They bought it on Ebay few days ago

damn, well weve got some cities here in holland id love to sell as well

DutchTeenCash · 03-17-2005, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fake Nick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wagner

my grandmother is from germany ;)

he died of a heart attack in Venice now thats romantic

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fusionx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Olongapo City, Philippines Posts: 4,618	WTF is The Netherlands? This has pissed me off for a long time now Is The Netherlands a country, a region or what? What the fuck is "dutch"? Is that a language or a place or a medical condition? Just kidding.. seriously, I don't know the relationship between, say "Holland", "The Netherlands" and "Dutch". Would someone care to educate me on this? I think - Amsterdam is a city in Holland which is in The Netherlands where people are Dutch, and speak Dutch. Or is The Netherlands a region in Holland? Ok - I'm confused. Thanks

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Nembrionic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,424	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland Read that. And they're right. But people mean they same thing when they mention Holland or The Netherlands --> the country itself. Dutch is our language alright, but I believe it's the English speaking people that came up with it. We call it 'nederlands' ('netherlands', seems logical doesn't it?) Like Germany language is called 'German'. So for the record of all the assholes that go like this: -"I'm Dutch!" "Aaah...you're German!?!" No dammit. Dutch is NOT the same as Deutsch, which is what the Germans call their own language(Germany->Deutschland. Germans speak "Deutsch") Pronounciation. Deutsch: Doitsch Dutch: Datch FINALLY see the difference? Last edited by Nembrionic; 03-17-2005 at 03:54 PM..

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