WTF is The Netherlands?
 

This has pissed me off for a long time now

Is The Netherlands a country, a region or what?

What the fuck is "dutch"? Is that a language or a place or a medical condition?

Just kidding.. seriously, I don't know the relationship between, say "Holland", "The Netherlands" and "Dutch".

Would someone care to educate me on this? I think - Amsterdam is a city in Holland which is in The Netherlands where people are Dutch, and speak Dutch.

Or is The Netherlands a region in Holland?

Ok - I'm confused. :thumbsup

Thanks

country - Holland - Netherlands
language Dutch

I think .. :S you got me confused as well hehe

i might be wrong but the Dutch prefer the spelling: Nederlands

This will be a long thread.

Its just another name for Holland

And people from Holland are Dutch

Holland = hollow land
Nederland = down land

same words for the same country.


both subscribe in a sense that holland is below sea level ( around 30 feet )

My god you are ignorant.

The Netherlands is a kingdom. Holland is in the kingdom along with Aruba, Bonair and Curacao. They speak Dutch.

Could be - no offense meant to anyone.. 'cept the Dutch..

Actually, what has me interested is I just found out that my grandfather on my dad's side is Dutch. So I have a Dutch name. So I'm at least 1/4 Dutch. We always thought it was Austrian or German. Interesting. It's not an obviously German or Dutch name.

exactly what i think it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland


Read that.
And they're right.

But people mean they same thing when they mention Holland or The Netherlands --> the country itself.

Dutch is our language alright, but I believe it's the English speaking people that came up with it.

We call it 'nederlands' ('netherlands', seems logical doesn't it?)
Like Germany language is called 'German'.

So for the record of all the assholes that go like this:

-"I'm Dutch!"
"Aaah...you're German!?!"

No dammit. Dutch is NOT the same as Deutsch, which is what the Germans call their own language(Germany->Deutschland. Germans speak "Deutsch")

Pronounciation.
Deutsch: Doitsch
Dutch: Datch

FINALLY see the difference?

What is your name? We'll tell you what it means.

so what is your last name?

I know that! That's why I'm asking :)

So Hellas is capital of Greece?

English people came up with it because they thought it was Deutsch

Exactly, just like the Fench have "Pays-Bas" named as Holland.

It literally means "Low Land".

:pimp

He just wants to confirm something he's not sure of.

and Great Britain is the best part of United Kingdom :winkwink:

Ok you live in AMERICA yet you speak ENGLISH. Shouldn't you be speaking AMERICAN?

I've always known the difference between Deutsch and Dutch. The German language never entered into this. We always thought we were of German descent. But, someone in nmy family just traced the records back, and it turns out my Grandfather's relatives migrated to the US from Holland.

The name is "Beer", but the original spelling may be different.

Great Britain is the Island. England is the country.

England? :1orglaugh

That's a very famous name. De Beers was founded by the Dutch and they completely control the diamond trade. They don't have an office in the States because they'd be sued for anti-trust.

This thread must only confuse you more. Let me clue you in.

When people talk about Holland or The Netherlands, they mean the same thing. They refer to the country, located next to Germany and Belgium. Dutch is the language and the people are called "the Dutch".

So where does the confusion come from? A long time ago we conquered some islands. They all belong to "The Kingdom Of The Netherlands". However, The Netherlands itself, it the country.

Don't look at that Wikipedia link about "Holland". Yes, it's true that there are 2 of the 12 provinces in The Netherlands called "South-Holland" and "North-Holland", and combined they make "Holland", but that is NOT what ppl refer to when they talk about Holland. They refer to the country. Forget that province crap.

Your name comes from Bier witch is Beer. Some will say it will come from Bear but thats not right.

I'll give you this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands

And still I wonder if people are aware that google exists..

hehe - we ordered a coat of arms in the 70's from some crap company... had a bear on it..

We do believe it's originally "Bier".

We always thought is was German or Austrian.. pretty interesting to find out it's Dutch.

Thanks!

No they are from Nederland and they speak Nederlands. Dutch is what the english made of it. Because Nederland was so hard to pronounce they made it Hollowland....wich becam Holland.

They thought it was Deutsh so they made a slang out of it . . Dutch.

LOL Now the Dutch language is even starting to confuse me, hehe.

"beer" in Dutch, means "bear" in English.
"bier" in Dutch, means "beer" in English.

grumpy is probably right though, your name is most likely be derived from the Dutch word "bier". Or it might just mean "bear".

LOL Dutch sucks. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Didn't George Costanza already ask about this once?

I think what messed me up was that The Netherlands = Holland. I truly thought The Netherlands was a region, that Holland was a part of.

My bad grammer aside... I think I've got it now.

OK Man, I'm not speaking Dutch on this board. I'm speaking English, no in fact, if you read it out loud, I'm speaking Brittish. But wait, you guys are Americans right? Wait, do Canadian people speak English too?

very nice ... :thumbsup

:eyecrazy

Maybe I've got an old great-great-great uncle somewhere who will put me in his diamond will :)

No clue if our line is any relation to the De Beers. Would be cool..

Thanks Rick

that means they have more pressure?

true... but anyways, I've found that if you have a question, and google can't answer it for you, then try http://wikipedia.org - more often than not, I get my answer.

Yes, along with Scottland and Wales

You're right. I wasn't saying don't look at Wikipedia. I was saying "don't look at that Wikipedia link about Holland". It's better to check out the Wikipedia link about The Netherlands.

God so much confusion in this thread. I think I forgot who I am now. :upsidedow

Wales is part of France

gotta love us dutchies ;) Best way to learn bout it, is to jump on a plane and come visit the 200 sq miles :)

I thought that was implied in my statement. :) You remember what happened last time we argued about history and geography. You got owned! :1orglaugh :winkwink:

1. youre dumb
2. youre posting to annoy

tell me which one is it ?

de beers is not the same as BEER ,


and even if his names was Beer dont make him related ;)

for example , my grandfather last name is Magnus , my grandmother Wagner ? ?

do I have very famous roots now ? ;) :error

They bought it on Ebay few days ago :winkwink:

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. My answer was more interesting. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wagner

my grandmother is from germany ;)

damn, well weve got some cities here in holland id love to sell as well :1orglaugh

he died of a heart attack in Venice now thats romantic :)