Whats Going On With Some Paysite Owners Now - A - Days???

[DavieVegas]

I cant beleive how many girls are getting single sites and they look like crap. What I mean is, I constantly see the lack of professionalism in many owners choices when picking a girl for an amatuer site or single girl site. I mean at least pick quality girls to represent your company. Im sorry but grabbing any ol girl because she is willing to have a site based off of her is rediculous. Yes, I understand that it still makes you money but if its about retention, then I dont see the reason for it. I see tons of threads in here with the titles" New Girl Here" or "New Site" or "Hot New Girl" And there not attractive. Some look underaged, some look like they were crackwhores for a part of their lives. Paysite owners should be able to interview a quality girl. I understand some backfire and duck out the last minute but that is no excuse to go and just grab a girl to fill in the weekly update. Everyone has thier own ways i guess but if I were a surfer, I wouldnt sign up for that shit, and id write down that sponsor so i never accidentally sign up with them in the future.

I see so many people saying the same stuff that I am, just in 1 worded sentences when they post. Even stuff like yelling out "Tranny"(when not joking) is enuff evidence that their is some sort of laziness or lack of ability to spot talent.

Now u can tell me, their is no such thing as an ugly girl, and u can go and say that regular girls(girls that bring nothing to the table looks or personality wise during shoots) make you money but im speaking only of retention here. When a surfer(a guy in this case) searches for a chick, he isnt in his right mind when he has his dick out and hes ready for a quick jerk before work so to speak. So, im sure u get 3 day trial signups if you offer pps, but how the hell can anyone be obsessed with a girl that has nothing to offer them looks wise or personality during the filming.

For instance, I saw video the other day and this girl was a pretty latin girl. Now she had a sexy face and great tits but her lower part had stretch marks that were so visible to the surfer. I still loved it and watched the video before I added the clips to my gallery. But this girl was yelling stuff like "fuck my wet pussy" and "You cant fuck me you asshole". That shit turns me on. Why? Because im searching for porn. I dont want to be beating off for an hour all hot and sweaty because im not fully turned on. Id rather watch something like that and right when i start the jerking process explode all over the keyboard and go buy anew one haha j/k. But u know what I mean. Sometimes, I want to sign up cuz the girl is so appealing to me either attitude wise or looks.

Just my thoughts but id love feedback on this and the reasons maybe you think their is such a lack of picking talent. Also make me beleive why a girl(who has nothing appealing about her) can have great retention?

[Spunky]

Another mans trash is another mans treasure..I prefer as much as anybody the average approachable girl next door..Although I would fuck a rattlesnake if I could hold it down

[d00t]

you have a shortened version of that? I can't be fucked reading 98 paragraphs

[DavieVegas]

^lol, damn ur lazy

[DirtyDanza]

I agree bro... some sites out there are just retarded.. but fuck em... it takes them 25 paysites to make the same as one of my paysites for instance.. you get the point... you have to figure were good looking guys. we can get girls... alot of these guys arent good looking enough to get the hot girls or any girls for that matter so they jump on what they can get

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Thats pretty controversial statement for an affiliate manager!

But lets keep it real.

Ya ever look for talent? How about fresh new talent? How about fresh new talent thats of at least reasonable age and not a freakymilf? How about talent that keep a schedual or focus on getting content donefor a site?

What I am saying is until you step out from behind the desk ya never going to know how hard it is to even find talent that will even work out.

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by spunky

Another mans trash is another mans treasure..I prefer as much as anybody the average approachable girl next door..Although I would fuck a rattlesnake if I could hold it down

LOL, ya and most men would in this industry. I sit here and watch people say id hit it! To these girls that are just plain horrible. I wouldnt fuck them with someones dick and me pushing really. Not to be rude about people that do biz or surf here but they have no taste whats so ever. I feel that they dont get out much, or lack the ability to pick up on girls if they go out. kind of a hermit who sits in the house so much, they lose their ability to be sociable. Mu opinion though.

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

I agree bro... some sites out there are just retarded.. but fuck em... it takes them 25 paysites to make the same as one of my paysites for instance.. you get the point... you have to figure were good looking guys. we can get girls... alot of these guys arent good looking enough to get the hot girls or any girls for that matter so they jump on what they can get

Ya and thats my point. Its all about quality isnt it? For instance, duke dollars and ur danzabucks for example. 3 to 4 sites only. Im an affiliate for duke dollars and danzabucks and the retention is the reason, I still push ur sites. Now for that type of extreme content, obviously u dont go out looking for amazing girls to do that type of shooting but the girls are sexy enuff to stay a member.

[SetTheWorldonFire]

with that said,

see sig

[DirtyDanza]

davie has done some scouting before and is good at it... he does more than sit behind a desk

[Young]

I didn't read the whole thing....just the first 5 sentences and I couldn't agree with you more. It seems like any old girl willing to take their clothes off is getting they're own sites. When in all honesty most of these girls wouldn't even be good enough for some good ol fashion DP.

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Thats pretty controversial statement for an affiliate manager!

But lets keep it real.

Ya ever look for talent? How about fresh new talent? How about fresh new talent thats of at least reasonable age and not a freakymilf? How about talent that keep a schedual or focus on getting content done for a site?

What I am saying is until you step out from behind the desk ya never going to know how hard it is to even find talent that will even work out.

First off, i dont agree with this. I dont see how this is a controversional statment because im an affiliate manager. I have worked for companies before this and I have personally watched and have done the camera work for many shoots. For instance, I worked for danzabucks awhile back and I cant tell you how many girls would blow his phone up, and even after he explained what type of modeling it was and so forth, the girls still did it and were interested. If you do not know how to approach women, or are not advertising in a successful manner, then that is your fault. I go out night after night and I cant tell you ho wmany girls I meet are interested inlesbian stuff and toys and blowjob scenes, from random ass girls i meet at the bar.

Now i do agree with you about the girls flaking out so to speak when it comes to appointments to do shoots but that is still no reason not to have a backup. That should be expected. Like i said, its my opinion.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Well if ya need average girls to look awesome and tours that convert...

Look me up.

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by Young

I didn't read the whole thing....just the first 5 sentences and I couldn't agree with you more. It seems like any old girl willing to take their clothes off is getting they're own sites. When in all honesty most of these girls wouldn't even be good enough for some good ol fashion DP.

I agree. Im just stating facts that I see everyday when I log into GFY. Yes, i am not a paysite owner but thats by CHOICE. I dont need to own a paysite to be sucessful. I just feel its like anything in life, whats worth doing, is worth doing right.

[bigdog]

i think you are forgetting that everyone doesn't want to see girls who are a 10. Some want to see girls who are a 6 because in the real world they might acutally have a chance with her

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by DavieVegas

First off, i dont agree with this. I dont see how this is a controversional statment because im an affiliate manager. I have worked for companies before this and I have personally watched and have done the camera work for many shoots. For instance, I worked for danzabucks awhile back and I cant tell you how many girls would blow his phone up, and even after he explained what type of modeling it was and so forth, the girls still did it and were interested. If you do not know how to approach women, or are not advertising in a successful manner, then that is your fault. I go out night after night and I cant tell you ho wmany girls I meet are interested inlesbian stuff and toys and blowjob scenes, from random ass girls i meet at the bar.

Now i do agree with you about the girls flaking out so to speak when it comes to appointments to do shoots but that is still no reason not to have a backup. That should be expected. Like i said, its my opinion.

I have no doubt in my mind that davievegas could go out right now at this second if I handed him one of my many phones that blow up non stop and handel the show easy.... prolly put alot of you to shame in how easy and skillfull he does it... he has watched the master (myself) in action many many times and could easily go do it... anyone in the industry if I had to hand my phone off it would be him for sure... just cause his official title is affiliate manager his true title is and will always be PIMP

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Well if ya need average girls to look awesome and tours that convert...

Look me up.

I Will man. I did not make this thread to come off as a "Know it all" and I was not thrashing paysite owners in a whole. I just question somes ability to pick their talent for single sites that is all. I have been around watching closely and learning what I can and its just my opinion. Thats what Imade this thread. I wanted to see comments. Not start any type of friction.

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by bigdog

i think you are forgetting that everyone doesn't want to see girls who are a 10. Some want to see girls who are a 6 because in the real world they might acutally have a chance with her

nice post!

[Shoehorn!]

Originally Posted by spunky

Another mans trash is another mans treasure..I prefer as much as anybody the average approachable girl next door..Although I would fuck a rattlesnake if I could hold it down

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

DavieVegas seems to be cool peeps in my book

Good topic man, I often wonder myself why some folks open up an average girls site, but it does cater to the amateur girl lovers out there

[DavieVegas]

very true alien. I just wanted to put this topic out their for the feedbacks you know? Its always good to get good topics rolling to get others point of view. Im sure this thread will do better tomorrow since its late and most paysite owners are not at the office.

[Sosa]

very true, their are a lot of shitty sites going up. Wonder how many of them will still be up in 6-12 montsh

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by Sosa

very true, their are a lot of shitty sites going up. Wonder how many of them will still be up in 6-12 montsh

Well im sure they will stay up as long as the cash program is alive unless they are really losing money. Who knows

[datatank]

Originally Posted by DavieVegas

Not to be rude about people that do biz or surf here but they have no taste whats so ever. I feel that they dont get out much, or lack the ability to pick up on girls if they go out. kind of a hermit who sits in the house so much, they lose their ability to be sociable. Mu opinion though.

What do you think the guy who is surfing for porn and looking to join a single girl site is? He sure is not the guy picking up hotties at the clubs every weekend..

[bigdog]

Originally Posted by DavieVegas

nice post!

it's true though, i have done real well with galleries of girls who don't look a teenkelly

[Dirty D]

Originally Posted by DavieVegas

... Some look underaged, some look like they were crackwhores for a part of their lives.

Ain't nothing wrong with pimping some Crack Whores...

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by dustman

Ain't nothing wrong with pimping some Crack Whores...

Might as well throw in some with missing teeth.

[Barefootsies]

Well,.. where to start...

Good points made by all. I can tell you from being a webmaster for 8-9 years now that I've seen a lot of things.. a lot of things that defy rhyme or reason. I've have seen good smokin hot looking women on sites that don't turn $50 a month or every two weeks. I've seen big fat ugly heffers knocking back $5k a month or more...

It comes down to marketing, plain and simple. That, finding your niche, or clientel, listening to them, and marketing the hell out of it. Sure, I like hot women from time to time, but as other said.. I prefer my women average, plain Jane girl next door types in RL. Apparently a lot of others do as well.

Who'd a thunk that people actually would pay for softcore, and women to keep their clothes on, and just posing sexy? Who'd have thought of a lot of shit we make money off of now a days?

Now i do agree with you about the girls flaking out so to speak when it comes to appointments to do shoots but that is still no reason not to have a backup. That should be expected. Like i said, its my opinion.

Having dealt with this above problem time and again, I know exactly where you are coming from. I also meet women all of the time who are all excited and want to do it until you are scheduling them, or planning a shoot. Then they flake, or no show. Hmph. So you always have to have some back ups. Annoying as this is, apparently it's the nature of the beast.

I wouldn't go so far as hiring crack hoes, like some of my counterparts over in Detroit Metro, but if they can get whatever they are looking for in content, I suppose it works. I personally am completely turned off by hiring strippers, but I will tell you, when the camera's rolling, and you say 'action', they are good to go. Most have been professional, and easy to shoot.

All in all, I suppose knowing your niche, clients, and how to make them happy is more important than anything. Hot women are nice, and I know I've been wrong before thinking this woman would be a fan favorite, and turns out you get a ton of e-mails for some toad. While you can play the numbers all day, I think that more a less it can be a crap shoot from models who actually are remotely professional and show up, to those your customers like and want more of.

[DavieVegas]

Great post^

[NaughtyRob]

Originally Posted by bigdog

i think you are forgetting that everyone doesn't want to see girls who are a 10. Some want to see girls who are a 6 because in the real world they might acutally have a chance with her

I agree. Sometimes, "cute" girl next door sells. Surfers don't always want super hot girls.

[tical]

get on icq fucktard!

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by ContentProducer

I agree. Sometimes, "cute" girl next door sells. Surfers don't always want super hot girls.

I think you guys misunderstood me. I did not mean hot girls. I mentioned how I was appealed to a latin girl with a very cute face and great tits but she had celulite and stretch marks but i considered her really sexy. Its about whats appealing to the surfer but someof these girls are not even cute. Thats my point here. Some are just below average girls who want a site and so forth. I made this post because of the retention issue and the lack of picking out talent.

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by tical

get on icq fucktard!

I have been on it.

[tical]

oh damn im gay ok trillian is broke or something

[DavieVegas]

ya man iv been trying to msg u all day but u havnt been on..i figured u were out or something...i dont use trillian...others have been having probs with it today and the past few days i think

[potter]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Well,.. where to start...

Good points made by all. I can tell you from being a webmaster for 8-9 years now that I've seen a lot of things.. a lot of things that defy rhyme or reason. I've have seen good smokin hot looking women on sites that don't turn $50 a month or every two weeks. I've seen big fat ugly heffers knocking back $5k a month or more...

It comes down to marketing, plain and simple. That, finding your niche, or clientel, listening to them, and marketing the hell out of it. Sure, I like hot women from time to time, but as other said.. I prefer my women average, plain Jane girl next door types in RL. Apparently a lot of others do as well.

Who'd a thunk that people actually would pay for softcore, and women to keep their clothes on, and just posing sexy? Who'd have thought of a lot of shit we make money off of now a days?



Having dealt with this above problem time and again, I know exactly where you are coming from. I also meet women all of the time who are all excited and want to do it until you are scheduling them, or planning a shoot. Then they flake, or no show. Hmph. So you always have to have some back ups. Annoying as this is, apparently it's the nature of the beast.

I wouldn't go so far as hiring crack hoes, like some of my counterparts over in Detroit Metro, but if they can get whatever they are looking for in content, I suppose it works. I personally am completely turned off by hiring strippers, but I will tell you, when the camera's rolling, and you say 'action', they are good to go. Most have been professional, and easy to shoot.

All in all, I suppose knowing your niche, clients, and how to make them happy is more important than anything. Hot women are nice, and I know I've been wrong before thinking this woman would be a fan favorite, and turns out you get a ton of e-mails for some toad. While you can play the numbers all day, I think that more a less it can be a crap shoot from models who actually are remotely professional and show up, to those your customers like and want more of.

word

8char

[hentaivip]

Hentai Shemale site good for me

I thought you only surfed the twink sites, Davie? :D

[DavieVegas]

Originally Posted by shermsshack

I thought you only surfed the twink sites, Davie? :D

only on the weekends

[XPays]

every niche gets saturated and the cream rises to the top

[DavieVegas]

i like cream....

[XPays]