JFPdude

Ok folks I offered a guy free hosting on my servers in exchange for 20 galleries a month.

I offered him up to 1mbps.

He says he can host galleries for $20 a month and that it would cost him no more.

he agreed to have the convo copy and pasted here changing his ID because he's looking to see if what I told him wasn't true.

Tell me your thoughts as I agreed to hear out what others had to say.

blahblahblah intro was cut per agreement
hostingn00b (9:35 AM) :
what you offer and what you need
hostingn00b (9:35 AM) :
but this is exactly what I need. I dont need money, I need a space for my galleries.
4433144 (9:35 AM) :
I am looking for 5 galleries a week
4433144 (9:35 AM) :
that would be 50 dollars with my normal designer
4433144 (9:36 AM) :
I can provide you hosting up to 1 mbps and unlimited domains for that every month
hostingn00b (9:38 AM) :
ok, lets clarify:

I make 5 galleries a week, thats 20 galleries a month

You provide me with a hosting for a whole month + register a domain name for me
4433144 (9:38 AM) :
yes
4433144 (9:38 AM) :
I will register a domain a month for you
hostingn00b (9:38 AM) :
thats $200 for a hosting?
4433144 (9:39 AM) :
and I will register them in your name you will be the owner of them
4433144 (9:39 AM) :
yes but that will allow you to post everywhere
hostingn00b (9:39 AM) :
domain name - $8
quite nice hosting - $20/monthly

man, I know the prices sorry
4433144 (9:39 AM) :
ok have fun
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
ask around on what many tgper's pay for hosting
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
you will find I'm not out of line
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
20 gets a hosting account started
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
once you get listed your bandwidth increases
4433144 (9:41 AM) :
many tgper's have dedicated boxes and are paying upwards of 500 a month
hostingn00b (9:42 AM) :
and they get unlimited BW, dont they?
4433144 (9:42 AM) :
hahaha there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth
4433144 (9:43 AM) :
they are allowed unlimted bandwidth but they have to pay for what they use
hostingn00b (9:43 AM) :
i see
4433144 (9:44 AM) :
the hosts lure you in with 20 dollar pricing
4433144 (9:44 AM) :
then when you get your first bill your shocked that it's 150 or 300 dollars
4433144 (9:44 AM) :
heh don't believe me ? send me an email (edited) or (edited)
4433144 (9:45 AM) :
LOL I know hosting it's what I do for a living
hostingn00b (9:46 AM) :
well, actually Im talking about shared hosting
hostingn00b (9:46 AM) :
I think they are cheaper
hostingn00b (9:46 AM) :
arent they?
4433144 (9:46 AM) :
that is shared hosting
4433144 (9:46 AM) :
a dedicated box costs 250 a month with no bandwidth
4433144 (9:46 AM) :
or
4433144 (9:47 AM) :
you can get an ev1 box for 99 dollars a month however your mail will not get through because they are listed at every spam house around
hostingn00b (9:48 AM) :
btw, why are dedicated better?
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
dedicated is not always better
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
dedicated boxes should only be used if:
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
you know how to admin your own machines
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
if your using more than 8mbps a month
4433144 (9:49 AM) :
or if you have a paysite
4433144 (9:49 AM) :
many people want dedicated without knowing about them because they here it's better
4433144 (9:49 AM) :
when in truth there is more security on shared or virtual servers
hostingn00b (9:51 AM) :
you mentioned ~$300/monthly for a shared hosting
how much BW does this have?
4433144 (9:51 AM) :
2 mbps
hostingn00b (9:52 AM) :
that means BW is unlimited?
4433144 (9:52 AM) :
no
4433144 (9:52 AM) :
there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth
hostingn00b (9:52 AM) :
so what does 2 mbps mean?
4433144 (9:52 AM) :
2 megabits per second
4433144 (9:53 AM) :
to a typical gallery it would mean like 60,00 hits a day
hostingn00b (9:54 AM) :
how do u calculate so?
I think that would mean much more hits...
4433144 (9:54 AM) :
add up what size your gallery is in kb and times it by 60,000
hostingn00b (9:58 AM) :
this is a way of calculating how much BW would your burn...
but 2mpbs is not a quantity, its a speed
hostingn00b (9:59 AM) :
so how can you calculate all in the same way?
4433144 (9:59 AM) :
no it's quantity
4433144 (10:00 AM) :
most servers are hooked up to allow 100mbps
4433144 (10:00 AM) :
but your charged for what you use
hostingn00b (10:01 AM) :
but please explain me, why 2mpbs = 60k hits to my gallery
4433144 (10:01 AM) :
the size of your gallery times the amount of hits
hostingn00b (10:03 AM) :
ok... lets say my galleries size is ~250KB x 60.000 = 15GB
what next?
4433144 (10:03 AM) :
what about the size of all the pictures ?
4433144 (10:04 AM) :
pklus thats 15gb a day
4433144 (10:04 AM) :
times that by 30
hostingn00b (10:04 AM) :
pictures can be optimized and surfers wont click ALL the images...
hostingn00b (10:05 AM) :
but the question is, why 2mbps is only 60K hits to my gallery
4433144 (10:05 AM) :
ok I am going to rescind my offer go buy hosting and find out ... I gave you probably one of the best offers your going to get yet you want to argue every point
4433144 (10:05 AM) :
have a good day
hostingn00b (10:05 AM) :
damn, you dont stand for your point
hostingn00b (10:06 AM) :
hehe, Ill consider that as a win
hostingn00b (10:06 AM) :
cya
4433144 (10:06 AM) :
you know what ?
hostingn00b (10:07 AM) :
?
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
let me post this convo and change your ICQ id and see what people think
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
that way you'd see my point
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
you game for that ?
hostingn00b (10:07 AM) :
a game looks nice, but lets set the rules
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
sure
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
give me the rules ?
hostingn00b (10:07 AM) :
what is the topic we are discussing?
4433144 (10:08 AM) :
hosting for gallerie design
4433144 (10:08 AM) :
and bandwidth
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
that 2mbps is not 60k hits to the gallery?
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
or that $200/monthly hosting is too much for a noob?
4433144 (10:08 AM) :
ok so I'll make the topic 2mbps = 60,000 hits a day
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
ok, thats really interestingA
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
!
4433144 (10:09 AM) :
ok let me copy and paste this into my edit pad and change your id and my email addresses
hostingn00b (10:09 AM) :
ok, you can do it
4433144 (10:09 AM) :
that way you can get more than my point of view
4433144 (10:09 AM) :
done deal hang on

Silent_Thunder

To make all things clearier, please answer to the following questions:

1. How much hits do your galleries get.
2. How much BW do those hits burn.
3. How much do you pay for that BW + other hosting fees.
4. WTF is 2mpbs? Is it only 60k hits to your gallery?

Thanks for you answers. Thats really important

tungsten

well you're math seems to be correct.. if he burns 15gb per day, your offer should suffice

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