Ok folks I offered a guy free hosting on my servers in exchange for 20 galleries a month.
I offered him up to 1mbps.
He says he can host galleries for $20 a month and that it would cost him no more.
he agreed to have the convo copy and pasted here changing his ID because he's looking to see if what I told him wasn't true.
Tell me your thoughts as I agreed to hear out what others had to say.
blahblahblah intro was cut per agreement
hostingn00b (9:35 AM) :
what you offer and what you need
hostingn00b (9:35 AM) :
but this is exactly what I need. I dont need money, I need a space for my galleries.
4433144 (9:35 AM) :
I am looking for 5 galleries a week
4433144 (9:35 AM) :
that would be 50 dollars with my normal designer
4433144 (9:36 AM) :
I can provide you hosting up to 1 mbps and unlimited domains for that every month
hostingn00b (9:38 AM) :
ok, lets clarify:
I make 5 galleries a week, thats 20 galleries a month
You provide me with a hosting for a whole month + register a domain name for me
4433144 (9:38 AM) :
yes
4433144 (9:38 AM) :
I will register a domain a month for you
hostingn00b (9:38 AM) :
thats $200 for a hosting?
4433144 (9:39 AM) :
and I will register them in your name you will be the owner of them
4433144 (9:39 AM) :
yes but that will allow you to post everywhere
hostingn00b (9:39 AM) :
domain name - $8
quite nice hosting - $20/monthly
man, I know the prices sorry
4433144 (9:39 AM) :
ok have fun
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
ask around on what many tgper's pay for hosting
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
you will find I'm not out of line
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
20 gets a hosting account started
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
once you get listed your bandwidth increases
4433144 (9:41 AM) :
many tgper's have dedicated boxes and are paying upwards of 500 a month
hostingn00b (9:42 AM) :
and they get unlimited BW, dont they?
4433144 (9:42 AM) :
hahaha there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth
4433144 (9:43 AM) :
they are allowed unlimted bandwidth but they have to pay for what they use
hostingn00b (9:43 AM) :
i see
4433144 (9:44 AM) :
the hosts lure you in with 20 dollar pricing
4433144 (9:44 AM) :
then when you get your first bill your shocked that it's 150 or 300 dollars
4433144 (9:44 AM) :
heh don't believe me ? send me an email (edited) or (edited)
4433144 (9:45 AM) :
LOL I know hosting it's what I do for a living
hostingn00b (9:46 AM) :
well, actually Im talking about shared hosting
hostingn00b (9:46 AM) :
I think they are cheaper
hostingn00b (9:46 AM) :
arent they?
4433144 (9:46 AM) :
that is shared hosting
4433144 (9:46 AM) :
a dedicated box costs 250 a month with no bandwidth
4433144 (9:46 AM) :
or
4433144 (9:47 AM) :
you can get an ev1 box for 99 dollars a month however your mail will not get through because they are listed at every spam house around
hostingn00b (9:48 AM) :
btw, why are dedicated better?
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
dedicated is not always better
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
dedicated boxes should only be used if:
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
you know how to admin your own machines
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
if your using more than 8mbps a month
4433144 (9:49 AM) :
or if you have a paysite
4433144 (9:49 AM) :
many people want dedicated without knowing about them because they here it's better
4433144 (9:49 AM) :
when in truth there is more security on shared or virtual servers
hostingn00b (9:51 AM) :
you mentioned ~$300/monthly for a shared hosting
how much BW does this have?
4433144 (9:51 AM) :
2 mbps
hostingn00b (9:52 AM) :
that means BW is unlimited?
4433144 (9:52 AM) :
no
4433144 (9:52 AM) :
there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth
hostingn00b (9:52 AM) :
so what does 2 mbps mean?
4433144 (9:52 AM) :
2 megabits per second
4433144 (9:53 AM) :
to a typical gallery it would mean like 60,00 hits a day
hostingn00b (9:54 AM) :
how do u calculate so?
I think that would mean much more hits...
4433144 (9:54 AM) :
add up what size your gallery is in kb and times it by 60,000
hostingn00b (9:58 AM) :
this is a way of calculating how much BW would your burn...
but 2mpbs is not a quantity, its a speed
hostingn00b (9:59 AM) :
so how can you calculate all in the same way?
4433144 (9:59 AM) :
no it's quantity
4433144 (10:00 AM) :
most servers are hooked up to allow 100mbps
4433144 (10:00 AM) :
but your charged for what you use
hostingn00b (10:01 AM) :
but please explain me, why 2mpbs = 60k hits to my gallery
4433144 (10:01 AM) :
the size of your gallery times the amount of hits
hostingn00b (10:03 AM) :
ok... lets say my galleries size is ~250KB x 60.000 = 15GB
what next?
4433144 (10:03 AM) :
what about the size of all the pictures ?
4433144 (10:04 AM) :
pklus thats 15gb a day
4433144 (10:04 AM) :
times that by 30
hostingn00b (10:04 AM) :
pictures can be optimized and surfers wont click ALL the images...
hostingn00b (10:05 AM) :
but the question is, why 2mbps is only 60K hits to my gallery
4433144 (10:05 AM) :
ok I am going to rescind my offer go buy hosting and find out ... I gave you probably one of the best offers your going to get yet you want to argue every point
4433144 (10:05 AM) :
have a good day
hostingn00b (10:05 AM) :
damn, you dont stand for your point
hostingn00b (10:06 AM) :
hehe, Ill consider that as a win
hostingn00b (10:06 AM) :
cya
4433144 (10:06 AM) :
you know what ?
hostingn00b (10:07 AM) :
?
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
let me post this convo and change your ICQ id and see what people think
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
that way you'd see my point
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
you game for that ?
hostingn00b (10:07 AM) :
a game looks nice, but lets set the rules
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
sure
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
give me the rules ?
hostingn00b (10:07 AM) :
what is the topic we are discussing?
4433144 (10:08 AM) :
hosting for gallerie design
4433144 (10:08 AM) :
and bandwidth
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
that 2mbps is not 60k hits to the gallery?
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
or that $200/monthly hosting is too much for a noob?
4433144 (10:08 AM) :
ok so I'll make the topic 2mbps = 60,000 hits a day
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
ok, thats really interestingA
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
!
4433144 (10:09 AM) :
ok let me copy and paste this into my edit pad and change your id and my email addresses
hostingn00b (10:09 AM) :
ok, you can do it
4433144 (10:09 AM) :
that way you can get more than my point of view
4433144 (10:09 AM) :
done deal hang on
I offered him up to 1mbps.
He says he can host galleries for $20 a month and that it would cost him no more.
he agreed to have the convo copy and pasted here changing his ID because he's looking to see if what I told him wasn't true.
Tell me your thoughts as I agreed to hear out what others had to say.
blahblahblah intro was cut per agreement
hostingn00b (9:35 AM) :
what you offer and what you need
hostingn00b (9:35 AM) :
but this is exactly what I need. I dont need money, I need a space for my galleries.
4433144 (9:35 AM) :
I am looking for 5 galleries a week
4433144 (9:35 AM) :
that would be 50 dollars with my normal designer
4433144 (9:36 AM) :
I can provide you hosting up to 1 mbps and unlimited domains for that every month
hostingn00b (9:38 AM) :
ok, lets clarify:
I make 5 galleries a week, thats 20 galleries a month
You provide me with a hosting for a whole month + register a domain name for me
4433144 (9:38 AM) :
yes
4433144 (9:38 AM) :
I will register a domain a month for you
hostingn00b (9:38 AM) :
thats $200 for a hosting?
4433144 (9:39 AM) :
and I will register them in your name you will be the owner of them
4433144 (9:39 AM) :
yes but that will allow you to post everywhere
hostingn00b (9:39 AM) :
domain name - $8
quite nice hosting - $20/monthly
man, I know the prices
sorry4433144 (9:39 AM) :
ok have fun
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
ask around on what many tgper's pay for hosting
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
you will find I'm not out of line
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
20 gets a hosting account started
4433144 (9:40 AM) :
once you get listed your bandwidth increases
4433144 (9:41 AM) :
many tgper's have dedicated boxes and are paying upwards of 500 a month
hostingn00b (9:42 AM) :
and they get unlimited BW, dont they?
4433144 (9:42 AM) :
hahaha there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth
4433144 (9:43 AM) :
they are allowed unlimted bandwidth but they have to pay for what they use
hostingn00b (9:43 AM) :
i see
4433144 (9:44 AM) :
the hosts lure you in with 20 dollar pricing
4433144 (9:44 AM) :
then when you get your first bill your shocked that it's 150 or 300 dollars
4433144 (9:44 AM) :
heh don't believe me ? send me an email (edited) or (edited)
4433144 (9:45 AM) :
LOL I know hosting it's what I do for a living
hostingn00b (9:46 AM) :
well, actually Im talking about shared hosting
hostingn00b (9:46 AM) :
I think they are cheaper
hostingn00b (9:46 AM) :
arent they?
4433144 (9:46 AM) :
that is shared hosting
4433144 (9:46 AM) :
a dedicated box costs 250 a month with no bandwidth
4433144 (9:46 AM) :
or
4433144 (9:47 AM) :
you can get an ev1 box for 99 dollars a month however your mail will not get through because they are listed at every spam house around
hostingn00b (9:48 AM) :
btw, why are dedicated better?
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
dedicated is not always better
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
dedicated boxes should only be used if:
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
you know how to admin your own machines
4433144 (9:48 AM) :
if your using more than 8mbps a month
4433144 (9:49 AM) :
or if you have a paysite
4433144 (9:49 AM) :
many people want dedicated without knowing about them because they here it's better
4433144 (9:49 AM) :
when in truth there is more security on shared or virtual servers
hostingn00b (9:51 AM) :
you mentioned ~$300/monthly for a shared hosting
how much BW does this have?
4433144 (9:51 AM) :
2 mbps
hostingn00b (9:52 AM) :
that means BW is unlimited?
4433144 (9:52 AM) :
no
4433144 (9:52 AM) :
there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth
hostingn00b (9:52 AM) :
so what does 2 mbps mean?
4433144 (9:52 AM) :
2 megabits per second
4433144 (9:53 AM) :
to a typical gallery it would mean like 60,00 hits a day
hostingn00b (9:54 AM) :
how do u calculate so?
I think that would mean much more hits...
4433144 (9:54 AM) :
add up what size your gallery is in kb and times it by 60,000
hostingn00b (9:58 AM) :
this is a way of calculating how much BW would your burn...
but 2mpbs is not a quantity, its a speed
hostingn00b (9:59 AM) :
so how can you calculate all in the same way?
4433144 (9:59 AM) :
no it's quantity
4433144 (10:00 AM) :
most servers are hooked up to allow 100mbps
4433144 (10:00 AM) :
but your charged for what you use
hostingn00b (10:01 AM) :
but please explain me, why 2mpbs = 60k hits to my gallery
4433144 (10:01 AM) :
the size of your gallery times the amount of hits
hostingn00b (10:03 AM) :
ok... lets say my galleries size is ~250KB x 60.000 = 15GB
what next?
4433144 (10:03 AM) :
what about the size of all the pictures ?
4433144 (10:04 AM) :
pklus thats 15gb a day
4433144 (10:04 AM) :
times that by 30
hostingn00b (10:04 AM) :
pictures can be optimized and surfers wont click ALL the images...
hostingn00b (10:05 AM) :
but the question is, why 2mbps is only 60K hits to my gallery
4433144 (10:05 AM) :
ok I am going to rescind my offer go buy hosting and find out ... I gave you probably one of the best offers your going to get yet you want to argue every point
4433144 (10:05 AM) :
have a good day
hostingn00b (10:05 AM) :
damn, you dont stand for your point
hostingn00b (10:06 AM) :
hehe, Ill consider that as a win
hostingn00b (10:06 AM) :
cya
4433144 (10:06 AM) :
you know what ?
hostingn00b (10:07 AM) :
?
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
let me post this convo and change your ICQ id and see what people think
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
that way you'd see my point
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
you game for that ?
hostingn00b (10:07 AM) :
a game looks nice, but lets set the rules
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
sure
4433144 (10:07 AM) :
give me the rules ?
hostingn00b (10:07 AM) :
what is the topic we are discussing?
4433144 (10:08 AM) :
hosting for gallerie design
4433144 (10:08 AM) :
and bandwidth
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
that 2mbps is not 60k hits to the gallery?
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
or that $200/monthly hosting is too much for a noob?
4433144 (10:08 AM) :
ok so I'll make the topic 2mbps = 60,000 hits a day
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
ok, thats really interestingA
hostingn00b (10:08 AM) :
!
4433144 (10:09 AM) :
ok let me copy and paste this into my edit pad and change your id and my email addresses
hostingn00b (10:09 AM) :
ok, you can do it
4433144 (10:09 AM) :
that way you can get more than my point of view
4433144 (10:09 AM) :
done deal hang on
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