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MGibson · 02-18-2005, 10:40 PM

Class Action Fairness Law signed today.

ANY amount over $10,000 must be handled by a federal court.

90 Day waiting period meaning you sue someone, they have 90 days to prepare their case.

You MUST sue the person in THEIR own domain (IE: their home town, county, state)

Trial Lawyers do not get high fees anymore, the JUDGE tells them what they may charge per CASE.

JUDGES decide the actual amount of the award and they are allowed to throw out anything.

Bush gave an example, a lady sued a grocery store over a coupon for $0.50.
The judge awarded her $0.50 because that's all it was worth.

So someone steals an image set from you, the judge looks at the pictures and if THAT judge thinks the pictures are only worth $50.00 thats what your getting.

Read about it on Cnn.

Steen2 · 02-18-2005, 10:43 PM

That kind of sucks, but like everything I suppose it's got it's pros and it's got it's cons.

tony286 · 02-18-2005, 10:43 PM

very fucked up

Vlad · 02-18-2005, 10:45 PM

what the hell
they are making it easier for scammers/frauders

Spunky · 02-18-2005, 10:46 PM

Makes sense on not wasting valuable court resources on frivilous claims

MGibson · 02-18-2005, 10:47 PM

It was actually good untill Bush added all kinds of crap to it, it looks nothing like it did when he first got it.

MrIzzz · 02-18-2005, 10:51 PM

interesting....

i cant make up my mind if its a good thing or bad yet

AaronM · 02-18-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MGibson

So someone steals an image set from you, the judge looks at the pictures and if THAT judge thinks the pictures are only worth $50.00 thats what your getting.

Wrong.

Federal Copyright Law specifically awards a MINIMUM of $750.00 per image per occurance of the violation.

If you are going to use an example....Perhaps you should have some knowledge of the laws that govern the example.

MGibson · 02-18-2005, 10:53 PM

Heh, someone violates federal copyright law, you SUE them.

This law takes precedence.

Considering CNN just aired Bush signing it into law and READING it word for word, I'd say thats pretty good qualifications Mr. Arron M Esquire.

Vlad · 02-18-2005, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGibson

So someone steals an image set from you, the judge looks at the pictures and if THAT judge thinks the pictures are only worth $50.00 thats what your getting.

Read about it on Cnn.

yep , that's wrong , look what Aaron said !
anyhow , what's the shit about selling CE lists ? dude you will get banned FAST !

AaronM · 02-18-2005, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGibson

Heh, someone violates federal copyright law, you SUE them.

This law takes precedence.

Considering CNN just aired Bush signing it into law and READING it word for word, I'd say thats pretty good qualifications Mr. Arron M Esquire.

You're wrong. Get over it.

Hot Visions · 02-18-2005, 10:56 PM

i really dont like bush

MGibson · 02-18-2005, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

You're wrong. Get over it.

Okay make sure to call congress and tell them about it

MGibson · 02-18-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad

yep , that's wrong , look what Aaron said !
anyhow , what's the shit about selling CE lists ? dude you will get banned FAST !

And ? It's happened many times before.

theking · 02-18-2005, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGibson

Class Action Fairness Law signed today.

ANY amount over $10,000 must be handled by a federal court.

90 Day waiting period meaning you sue someone, they have 90 days to prepare their case.

You MUST sue the person in THEIR own domain (IE: their home town, county, state)

Trial Lawyers do not get high fees anymore, the JUDGE tells them what they may charge per CASE.

JUDGES decide the actual amount of the award and they are allowed to throw out anything.

Bush gave an example, a lady sued a grocery store over a coupon for $0.50.
The judge awarded her $0.50 because that's all it was worth.

So someone steals an image set from you, the judge looks at the pictures and if THAT judge thinks the pictures are only worth $50.00 thats what your getting.

Read about it on Cnn.

So much misinformation that this post amounts to being...pig shit.

ProjectNaked · 02-18-2005, 11:03 PM

good news for "documentary" content producers

FIX01 · 02-18-2005, 11:04 PM

Insurance companies have been pushing this for a while claiming this is the reason for such high premiums. Does anyone actually think prices will go down on insurance rates?

AaronM · 02-18-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MGibson

Okay make sure to call congress and tell them about it

I'll tell ya what sport.....How about if you get your facts straight...THEN come back and apologize?

A copyright case is an open and shut case under most circumstances. Most of the time they never even go to trial. Copyright laws have a set minimum penalty in place and a Judge MAY award more if he sees fit.

The type of law suits that this new law covers are typically not ones that already have a Federal penalty in place.

I'm not saying you are wrong about the law....I am saying you are wrong about the copyright example you posted.

I copyright images on a monthly basis. Where does your knowledge come from?

theking · 02-18-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

I'll tell ya what sport.....How about if you get your facts straight...THEN come back and apologize?

A copyright case is an open and shut case under most circumstances. Most of the time they never even go to trial. Copyright laws have a set minimum penalty in place and a Judge MAY award more if he sees fit.

The type of law suits that this new law covers are typically not ones that already have a Federal penalty in place.

I'm not saying you are wrong about the law....I am saying you are wrong about the copyright example you posted.

I copyright images on a monthly basis. Where does your knowledge come from?

The law covers multi state class action lawsuits and moves them into Federal Court...which is where they should have been in the first place.

MGibson · 02-18-2005, 11:16 PM

The new law that was just signed into affect, regarding ALL lawsuits over $10,000

AaronM · 02-18-2005, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

The law covers multi state class action lawsuits and moves them into Federal Court...which is where they should have been in the first place.

Exactly. And since only one person or company can own the copyright to any given image, there is no way to file a class action lawsuit.

For those who do not understand the difference....A class action suit is where MULTIPLE parties file suit against the same defendant for the same reason. (This is a basic example....Not textbook.)

AaronM · 02-18-2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MGibson

The new law that was just signed into affect, regarding ALL lawsuits over $10,000

Go ahead and violate my copyright 20 times or so and we can test your theory.

AaronM · 02-18-2005, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MGibson

The new law that was just signed into affect, regarding ALL lawsuits over $10,000

Interesting. Initially you stated...."Class Action Fairness Law" but know you are saying "ALL lawsuits."

Clearly you have no idea WTF the difference is.

Go back to school.

theking · 02-18-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MGibson

The new law that was just signed into affect, regarding ALL lawsuits over $10,000

Quote:

Under the legislation, class-action suits seeking $5 million or more would be heard in state court only if the primary defendant and more than one-third of the plaintiffs are from the same state. But if fewer than one-third of the plaintiffs are from the same state as the primary defendant, and more than $5 million is at stake, the case would go to federal court.

Taken from...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

AaronM · 02-18-2005, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Taken from...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

Ooops.

OWN3D

Rui · 02-19-2005, 05:39 AM

Whats the matter afraid Fantasyman may come after your arse? lol

Manowar · 02-19-2005, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Ooops.

OWN3D

lots of people claim MGibson is Dave Stodghill. just FYI

swedguy · 02-19-2005, 06:10 AM

Jeez. The misinformation here is almost worse than Fox News.

prasa · 02-19-2005, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by swedguy

Jeez. The misinformation here is almost worse than Fox News.

What was so bad about the firefox?

crackerboy · 02-19-2005, 06:40 AM

prasa wtf are you talking about he sade fox news not firefox

Mr Dickovitch · 02-19-2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MGibson

It was actually good untill Bush added all kinds of crap to it, it looks nothing like it did when he first got it.

Bush is also in Congress and writes bills?

tungsten · 02-19-2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by prasa

What was so bad about the firefox?

drugs are bad for you

Tala · 02-19-2005, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Dickovitch

Bush is also in Congress and writes bills?

Nah, Dubya's just the current shepard.

jimmyf · 02-19-2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Wrong.

Federal Copyright Law specifically awards a MINIMUM of $750.00 per image per occurance of the violation.

If you are going to use an example....Perhaps you should have some knowledge of the laws that govern the example.

i must say AaronM does know about his pictures.

jimmyf · 02-19-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hot Visions

i really dont like bush

well I'm sure you will survive another 3plus years. know I will

jimmyf · 02-19-2005, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by theking

So much misinformation that this post amounts to being...pig shit.

this is GFY, happens often here

Prof.Dr. Den · 02-19-2005, 09:08 AM

god bless anerica :D

OG LennyT · 02-19-2005, 09:17 AM

bout time they start doing something about our ridiculous judicial system

Pete-KT · 02-19-2005, 09:18 AM

Leave it to BUSH to fuck shit up again, it was nowhere near lookin like that when it got to his desk

KRL · 02-19-2005, 09:22 AM

It's about time they nailed the outlandish incomes attorneys create through absurd amounts of litigation.

Der Schleicher · 02-19-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad

what the hell
they are making it easier for scammers/frauders

same here.and it makes the wheel of justice slower to grind

CAHEK · 02-19-2005, 12:37 PM

MGibson you still dint contact me

TheMob · 02-19-2005, 12:39 PM

wow, this country is growing up!

BRISK · 02-19-2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGibson

Bush gave an example, a lady sued a grocery store over a coupon for $0.50.
The judge awarded her $0.50 because that's all it was worth.

That should set her up nicely for retirement

BRISK · 02-19-2005, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGibson

a lady sued a grocery store over a coupon for $0.50.
The judge awarded her $0.50 because that's all it was worth.

I wonder if her lawyer was working on contingency?

02-18-2005, 10:40 PM	#1
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MGibson So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 772	Heh, someone violates federal copyright law, you SUE them. This law takes precedence. Considering CNN just aired Bush signing it into law and READING it word for word, I'd say thats pretty good qualifications Mr. Arron M Esquire.

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