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DarkJedi · 12-02-2001, 07:26 AM

Gee, I got to bust my ass all day long to make some decent money. The industry is changing somehow....its not stable anymore like it used to be....i dont even know what the hell is going on. I dont think the rules here work anymore.

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ldinternet · 12-02-2001, 07:30 AM

To many freakin' webmasters means too much content. If there were 500, we'd be sorted. Shame there's so many thousands of us.

Cheaper internet access, more foreign traffic... it's almost free to get online now. Weekends are the worst.

It'd be great if all sponsors closed their webmaster signup pages... hehehe, no newbie webmasters!

[This message has been edited by ldinternet (edited 12-02-2001).]

Sleepy · 12-02-2001, 08:49 AM

About 5 times a month I get e-mails from
customers asking me to "un-cancel" their
membership. Thats really disturbing. These
surfers are so used to getting fucked they
cancel first and look at the site later.

The "pay per signup" system is to blame for
some problems. Resellers will tell surfers
anything to get signups. I know, I know.. we
all try to curb that crap but it still
happens.

The other thing I see is these cable users
running their own ftp's. It doesnt help
things cause they steal your content and
give it away for free on their high speed
lines. They are hard to catch.
They pay nothing for the bandwidth so they
just keep doing it. As much as @home being
shut down hurts us, I will bet 500,000 warez
pic and video sites were just purged from the
net.

I guess what Im trying to say is that content
thieves and underhanded business practices
are hurting us all. If you run an honest
business you'll still be running it when
the crooks are killed off by the credit card
companies ( I hope ).

Anyone have an reliable info on the new CC
Company laws coming down ?

FreeOnes · 12-02-2001, 09:29 AM

Because I have always said that CJ sites don't work in the long run....

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Clownbarf · 12-02-2001, 12:51 PM

You've definately got the "stability" part right. But you can CREATE stability, it just takes time and a steady, REALIABLE traffic flow.

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Fossa · 12-02-2001, 01:39 PM

Stop crying.
I just wanted to be the first to say that

Fossa

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FreeOnes · 12-02-2001, 02:07 PM

Come on stop crying with stop crying!

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Ambergirl · 12-02-2001, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepy:

I guess what Im trying to say is that content
thieves and underhanded business practices
are hurting us all. If you run an honest
business you'll still be running it when
the crooks are killed off by the credit card
companies ( I hope ).

Anyone have an reliable info on the new CC
Company laws coming down ?

Well said! I agree completely!

An excellent and solid processing company is: www.Jettis.com

Quote:

Originally posted by Clownbarf:

You've definately got the "stability" part right. But you can CREATE stability, it just takes time and a steady, REALIABLE traffic flow.

AND....only choosing to deal with those that are HONEST and ETHICAL.

That's my 2 pennies anyway...been in this industry for 6+ years and plan to be here a lot longer than that. This has worked well for me so far.

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Nedder · 12-02-2001, 02:55 PM

Ha, nice of Flyntdigital to plug Jettis, aren't you guys all Webquest anyway?

Sorry, I've got friends working in Westlake

N

Ambergirl · 12-02-2001, 03:07 PM

LOL Nedder, FlyntDigital doesn't run Jettis...although, we at FD process with them, which is why I know they are the best processors out there.

Sleepy · 12-02-2001, 03:41 PM

My understanding is Jettis is owned by MaxCash. Now the funny thing
is that MaxCash was supposedly going to move all their processing to
Ibill. That really makes you wonder since they have their own processor.
After being told that info I was later told that customers signing up
through Jettis were being spammed with MaxCash adverts.

Hey, I dont know any of this for sure. It could all be bullshit but the
people who told me this are large in the industry. The bottom line is
that I was considering using Jettis at one time but that kinda
scared me away from them.

Just to be 100% clear, I dont know any of the above to be fact. If
someone from MaxCash says it's bullshit.. well, they would know better
than I.

It might be a good thing if someone from Jettis or MaxCash cleared this
up. I have heard those three rumors enough times ( and other webmasters )
that it may be adversely affecting their business.

erotictrance · 12-03-2001, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepy:

The other thing I see is these cable
users running their own ftp's. It doesnt
help things cause they steal your content
and give it away for free on their high
speed lines. They are hard to catch.

They pay nothing for the bandwidth so they
just keep doing it. As much as @home being
shut down hurts us, I will bet 500,000 warez
pic and video sites were just purged from the
net

That's not the only problem. Look at all the people doing the exact same thing with Yahoo accounts ... there's a HUGE amount of piracy going on there ...

You would think Yahoo and the ISPs would put limits on these things since the bandwidth costs must be huge ... and some do ... but the pirates just keep setting up new accounts over and over ...

[This message has been edited by erotictrance (edited 12-03-2001).]

Kimmykim · 12-03-2001, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepy:

Anyone have an reliable info on the new CC
Company laws coming down ?

Most all the changes have already been made.

12-02-2001, 07:26 AM	#1
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Whay is it so hard to make money nowadays ? Gee, I got to bust my ass all day long to make some decent money. The industry is changing somehow....its not stable anymore like it used to be....i dont even know what the hell is going on. I dont think the rules here work anymore. ------------------ I make money with these sponsors: TrafficCash GammaCash OffshoreClicks

12-02-2001, 07:30 AM	#2
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	To many freakin' webmasters means too much content. If there were 500, we'd be sorted. Shame there's so many thousands of us. Cheaper internet access, more foreign traffic... it's almost free to get online now. Weekends are the worst. It'd be great if all sponsors closed their webmaster signup pages... hehehe, no newbie webmasters! [This message has been edited by ldinternet (edited 12-02-2001).]

12-02-2001, 08:49 AM	#3
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	About 5 times a month I get e-mails from customers asking me to "un-cancel" their membership. Thats really disturbing. These surfers are so used to getting fucked they cancel first and look at the site later. The "pay per signup" system is to blame for some problems. Resellers will tell surfers anything to get signups. I know, I know.. we all try to curb that crap but it still happens. The other thing I see is these cable users running their own ftp's. It doesnt help things cause they steal your content and give it away for free on their high speed lines. They are hard to catch. They pay nothing for the bandwidth so they just keep doing it. As much as @home being shut down hurts us, I will bet 500,000 warez pic and video sites were just purged from the net. I guess what Im trying to say is that content thieves and underhanded business practices are hurting us all. If you run an honest business you'll still be running it when the crooks are killed off by the credit card companies ( I hope ). Anyone have an reliable info on the new CC Company laws coming down ?

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Ambergirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: East Coast Baby Posts: 1,269	LOL Nedder, FlyntDigital doesn't run Jettis...although, we at FD process with them, which is why I know they are the best processors out there.

12-02-2001, 03:41 PM	#11
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	My understanding is Jettis is owned by MaxCash. Now the funny thing is that MaxCash was supposedly going to move all their processing to Ibill. That really makes you wonder since they have their own processor. After being told that info I was later told that customers signing up through Jettis were being spammed with MaxCash adverts. Hey, I dont know any of this for sure. It could all be bullshit but the people who told me this are large in the industry. The bottom line is that I was considering using Jettis at one time but that kinda scared me away from them. Just to be 100% clear, I dont know any of the above to be fact. If someone from MaxCash says it's bullshit.. well, they would know better than I. It might be a good thing if someone from Jettis or MaxCash cleared this up. I have heard those three rumors enough times ( and other webmasters ) that it may be adversely affecting their business.