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I'm Lenny2 Bitch
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Ipasak.com (nichecontentguru) is a fucking crook (DRAMA ALERT)
Let me start by saying that I've been in this business since 2000 and only one time before have I gone to the boards and called someone a crook. (And I was right that time as well as this one)
Martin (aka ipasak.com aka nichecontentguru) ripped us off something fierce. He comes to the boards and shows a picture of a blonde busty model available for work. She fits the niche I need perfectly, but his photography is pathetic so I ask if I can send one of my photographers to shoot her and he'll get a referral fee for finding the model. He says that was fine. Now the drama.... He tells my photographer that this model will do boy/girl, and girl/girl work...no problem. He DOESN'T tell us that she's never done girl/girl before, and has no idea how to. After my photographer books his rooms, buys tickets to travel to where the girl is (for him AND for the model he brought along to do the girl/girl scene) Martin decides that he needs $600(euro) for us to be able to shoot the model. (I guess he needed so much because he couldn't rip the model off since we were paying her directly at the shoot) Anyone in this business knows that the standard model referral fee is $100(US).....but we were fucked either way and he knew it. So we paid the $600 and the girl shows up for the shoot and its the most fucking pathetic shoot ever. The only content I'll be able to use is the stills.....she wouldn't even kiss the other girl in the GG video, and stood about 4 feet away from her while rubbing lotion on her boobs. (And THAT was the hottest part of the video) So not only does he decide to charge 8 TIMES the standard model referral fee, he sends us a model that he obviously didn't "cast" or "test shoot" to see if she had what it took to do porn. Of course all of our requests for a full or partial refund of the referral fee have been ignored. (If someone sold you a shitty product you'd ask for your money back as well) So basically if you do business with this guy he'll either A) shoot you some really shitty content himself, take the money and not pay the model....or B) Charge you a ridiculous fee for you to shoot the model yourself and send you a model that can't do any porn acting. </rant>
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Bump so more people can read this.
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I see you put the blame of some issues on the model where they should be on the photographers part..
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ok, I'm not a drama queen too - those are my 2 cents:
- he wanted 100% of the money the girl got for softcore shooting as a commission. when we said, normally the girl gets more than that on a day and the agency 20% of it, he told us we can do so, but then he will take away money from the girl as well. and it was 600 euro, which is about $800 at the moment. - we asked if the girl does g/g and b/g - he said yes, but "forgot" to tell us that she never did that before. it was as pathetic as Lenny said. and i was the first time really ashamed of what we delievered. - of course I lose money with this job cause I cannot force a customer to pay for shit - so i asked for a refund several times. his comment (translated from german): "don't cry like a baby, otherwise i will ignore your emails in the future. The porn business is tough and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Plus I have a partner who would be angry with me if i'd pay you the money back now." I don't blame the girl - she's just a simple slovakian girl who got sent by her pimp. We paid her, cause it was not very generous anyways what Martin had conceded her. But I think it's not wrong of us to ask for a refund of a part of $780 for just giving us a telephone number (which we had to pay upfront before we ever saw the girl in person btw). So decide yourself if you want to do some business with Mr. Masar. Thank you.
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sorry to hear you lost money but its your fault also. you should have asked all the questions before you go investing money, as you sound like you are a pro. so as a pro you should have taken all the measures. so id say part of this its your fault also.
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we had a second girl there that never did g/g before - but she was at least willing to do it and would have been good with someone else. and when i have a correct information from the agency where i book the girl i can tell my customer: "i don't know if it will work out - are you willing to pay even if it fails"
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Man, that really, really sucks. Totally unprofessional
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i wired money to martin directly through my bank..... 700 to his account... and he could have EASILY scammed me... and i couldn't do shit about it... but he didn't.... and i'm new to GFY so if i were to make a bunch of accusations... noone would take it seriously... he could have easily took off with my money...
but he didn't and he really helped me out by giving me such a great deal with the camera.. and also threw in extra stuff that wasn't even part of the deal.... on top of that.. he taught me a bunch of stuff i needed to know about photography... showed me the ropes if you will.. either way... martin is a great guy.... and i agree with the other person that you never asked him if the girl had experience with G/G
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and you just admitted here and in another thread that you are a newbie. so thank you for your contribution. ![]() but this here isn't about selling cameras. ![]()
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Here is the model, I shot her on 3 afternoons already, maybe you guys cannot handle a model to pose for you the way you wish? Plus you asked if she will do G/G or B/G, so I told you she will and she did. You did not ask if she has experience, as many webmasters noticed correctly in this thread. Furthermore you saw her naked photos upront, so you knew what you were paying for. On top of it, many people want to see how a girl gets fucked for the first time in front a camera, some people pay a premium for that to find such a girl
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Anytime you get a model from an agency, the agency has auditioned the model before they send her on a shoot because their reputation depends on being able to deliver quality models to the people who produce content. You obviously didn't do this and didn't (and still don't) care that we got ripped off. So like I said....you can think we were wrong or think we were right but based on the way you handled this matter people can judge for themselves whether or not they should do business with you.
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Let us ask the audience, maybe some people will be reading this thread. How much would any sponsor pay to you for a B/G video with an abovementioned model. The caveat is that supposedly she was not interested in fucking so much and was just there, however the guy saved the porn movie a properly fucked her. How much would such a reality movie be worth? Maybe you guys should start a different thread on it
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I smell high drama level
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Not so much drama, among our customers are clients like Nader from NichePay who have advertized and supported GFY, please clicke on the link before:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=430519 And here is one more interesting thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=433013 ![]()
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DRAMA ALERT, im gonna go make popcorn who wants some?
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This thread needs a bump so that everyone knows what kind of scammer Martin is..
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bump... that nichecontent guy is a joke
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That's the reason I never buy there. His photoshoots are really bad, and so are his business tactics(heard this before a few times). Good thing we never dealt with him.
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youre both amateurs ... agent you should have said its her first time, photog, you shouldve realized in the first 10 minutes the girl was going to do a shitty scene and sent everyone home and asked for your money back from agent.
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=433013 For 3 full days, both softcore and hardcore, there is no way, this model is not worth EUR 1,400: ![]() ![]() ![]()
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we wanted to pay more to the model, less to you. because a telephone number is not worth $780. you said if we do so you take away money from the model. and you demanded the money upfront - now i know why. you didn't give us all information and you made false accusations in your emails. hell, you didn't even remember things you wrote us before and i had to send you your own emails. but if it's that what makes you happy - go on. karma is a bitch. but let me quote your business attitude again: Quote:
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And if you don't get your price you take the money from the model. The point of this thread was never about getting money back....you can keep the $800, I made that today from the time I started this thread until now. Only low life fucks like you have to steal money from starving models or rake people over the coals to make money in a hurry instead of building long term business relationships that would be much more profitable in the long run. The point of the thread was to point out to people in this business what a low life you are. If I would have paid you to shoot the content you probably would have charged me $1000 and then kept it all and not paid the model. BTW I noticed you removed the pics of the girl....good move, you take horrible photos.
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Again I'll point out that this isn't about the money so much as your attitude.
When we complained to you, you could have handled it several different ways. You could have at least shown empathy.....hey wow I'm sorry that happened man, how about I give you some free pic sets or vids from my store to try and make up for it?" "How about next time you need a model I'll waive my fee to try and make this up to you?" Instead you decided to say this "don't cry like a baby, otherwise i will ignore your emails in the future. The porn business is tough and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. So obviously you'll never see another red cent of the considerable amount of money I spend on content, and hopefully all of the lurkers reading this thread will avoid you as well.
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2. I did offer to Stefan and also to Patrick that you could guys can book any of our models for free next time. I also offered that you can shoot Michelle again 2-3 times and we do not want a cent if you guys were not happy. 3. Now you are playinng innocent here on GFY. But how about telling people that employees of Stefan and Patrick tried to ask Michele if they can call her directly for future shoots without our agency involvment. So, basically you were trying to screw us and now you want us to return you the money. About 200 webmasters bought from www.ipasak.com in the last 12 months and our store is not gonna get shaken by your post here. Yes, we do sell amateur to semiprofessional photo and video sets, however our prices per set are very often not higher than US$ 10 ![]() ![]() ![]() 4. Stefan is crying like a little baby, not you. He wrote us 1000 emails. That guy has nothing do to or what? He neved made in his life EUR600? Or he thinks that it would be fair that we pay you back EUR 600 and then the whole 3-day shoot of the model including B/G hardcore video, 7 still sets and several softcore video costs you EUR 800. You guys must be fucking kidding. Also, you do not seriuosly expect us to work for US$ 100 booking fee. Why did you pay then? Stefan suggested that we keep EUR 300. So, we are all wasting our time here about EUR 275 (after paypal fees), which we should return to you and than you guys are happy or what? Both of you have nothing to do than to argue about EUR 275 for 3 weeks 5 hours a day? You guys are not gonna stay around in the business if you do not focus more on what you should be doing. Again, please remember that I offered to help, but Stefan and Patrick did not feel like accepting it and now you are coming all over me. We are business men here and always ready to make concessions to try please our clients, but your clients should not be stabbing us in our back by trying to hire away our models ![]() ![]() ![]()
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man, that's so pathetic - i don't get it. first: it's true - you offered me to book models for free. i went through your models and none of them looked in a way that i can use them. LISTEN: I CAN'T USE THEM! second: this is something i explain to you now for the 5th or 6th time: you gave us the telephone number of that girl to find out when and where she arrives (isn't that your job?). So why the fuck should we ask her - we had it already!!! and you can ask every agency i ever worked with that we never tricked them. On the other hand: they don't charge 100% of the model fee as a commission as you do. And to prove again you are lying about that: she contacted us later to give us her new phone number. seems as if she doesn't want to have anything to do with you too. and third: it's about business ethics - and not the money. you can shove the money up your ass - i hope you choke on it. and about what we wanted to pay to the model and what you told us to pay to you instead read above. thank you btw: its even more pathetic to contact customers to bump threads about you when they are once in a while positive. ![]()
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and one more thing for the public:
do a search on GFY about me and about Ipasak, Martin Masar, Nichecontentguru or whatever he calls himself (isn't your original nick banned?). then decide. thank you. over and out.
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so you are pimping out girls you grew up with? funny. and i hope your escort agency is doing fine since you are not a professional (not difficult to guess that btw). and i agreed to pay for something that was promised. but i didn't get it. now don't worry about Lenny - we took care of that. and i took it as a lesson.
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We have more than enough satisfied clients, unfortunately you are not one of them, however we always try our best to accomodate wishes. In the last 12 months, there were 3 problem childs, you are one of them, unfortunately. Anyway, I hope that lenny will talk to us and we will make him happy
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I wouldn't do business with you if you were the last content provider on earth, you're a complete and total prick who finds desperate girls, pimps them out as escorts, and then doesn't even pay them. Go fuck yourself
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Montreal
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sucks to see folks get screwd like this, especially friends
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#46 |
New owner of GFY
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 49
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Damn Lenny2, you should have called me to handle this for you.
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Orgasms N Such!
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Oakville, Ontario
Posts: 18,135
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#48 |
Confirmed User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ireland
Posts: 3,225
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thats not on .. sorry man
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#49 |
I like Dutch Girls
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: dutchteencash.com
Posts: 21,684
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didnt reply to the other ipasak threads cause i think its pathetic but i will now, make sure this guy is on your blacklist, the asshole posts he makes when another deal went wrong are pathetic, im sure martins gonna post here bout money we own him or models, but i dont care
this guy makes weirdass deals, tells the models this and tells the buyer that, ending in a mess, plus the pics he delivers are complete crap, blurry and useless i wont even bring up the clothes he still has from us or the crappy pics he has or the fact he using our clothes for other models, the cellphone numbers of the models he posted along with other personal stuff... as long as you blacklist this guy martin : stick with the banking job thats paying you a million and get the hell away from content, photography, escort or whatever youre doing there and leave the content to pro ppl like amazingcontent and so many GOOD other providers here
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#50 |
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 5,247
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That shit sucks Lenny, it's important to keep people happy in this industry.
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