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Old 02-15-2005, 04:41 AM   #1
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MCSE why did i do that

So i'm now a mcse whoop de fucking do. I fucking hate windows dont even use it for any of my servers don't plan on either.

I dont even know why I wanted to do it in the first place.

Oh well, any other people here done a cert they had no intent on using lol
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Old 02-15-2005, 05:01 AM   #2
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Yup.. Done it.. Can help a bit in getting in getting a mainstream job of that is what one is looking for..
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Old 02-15-2005, 06:05 AM   #3
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Old 02-15-2005, 06:20 AM   #4
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I did MCSE after school in 99 but it was a waste of time. Even if you applied for jobs as server admin they didnt care about a fancy cert. They care about what you can do today.
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Old 02-15-2005, 06:17 PM   #5
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I did MCSE after school in 99 but it was a waste of time. Even if you applied for jobs as server admin they didnt care about a fancy cert. They care about what you can do today.

true but i guess it better then approaching a job with zippo

it may open a door to let you show them what you got
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:03 PM   #6
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A+ certified, Network +, and a certificate in Microsoft Product Specialist... lol

started going back to real school and will graduate from ASU in 2006. A real degree will hold more value then the computer stuff.
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:05 PM   #7
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i think it will be useful, sure isnt a waste of time
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:55 PM   #8
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I did MCSE after school in 99 but it was a waste of time. Even if you applied for jobs as server admin they didnt care about a fancy cert. They care about what you can do today.
I'm a MCSE, MCT, MCSE + I, CCNA, Network +, and I have a Bachelor in Computer Science.

Anyone whose been in the mainstream industry knows that certification is much more respected than a degree in Computer Science or a related field. A BS in a related field will get you in a management position, but to get a decent job you must have 3 years of experience. A BS in CS will count for 2 years of experience, you need to have a cert of some type to prove legitimacy. Most college classes are about 4 years behind whats actually going on in the industry. When I was getting my BS, in my networks class we were studying about Bridges, Hub, and Brouters. NOBODY uses that antiquated technology anymore.

Basically if you want a mainstream job in a computer related field, a high end cert like the MSCE or CCNA will help you get what you want much faster than a degree.
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:55 PM   #9
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A+ certified, Network +, and a certificate in Microsoft Product Specialist... lol

started going back to real school and will graduate from ASU in 2006. A real degree will hold more value then the computer stuff.

I finished my degree last year. I agree getting degree should be first port of call
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:59 PM   #10
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I'm a MCSE, MCT, MCSE + I, CCNA, Network +, and I have a Bachelor in Computer Science.

Anyone whose been in the mainstream industry knows that certification is much more respected than a degree in Computer Science or a related field. A BS in a related field will get you in a management position, but to get a decent job you must have 3 years of experience. A BS in CS will count for 2 years of experience, you need to have a cert of some type to prove legitimacy. Most college classes are about 4 years behind whats actually going on in the industry. When I was getting my BS, in my networks class we were studying about Bridges, Hub, and Brouters. NOBODY uses that antiquated technology anymore.

Basically if you want a mainstream job in a computer related field, a high end cert like the MSCE or CCNA will help you get what you want much faster than a degree.
Going for a job interview without a degree is like walking around in public naked nowadays
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Old 02-15-2005, 08:01 PM   #11
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Going for a job interview without a degree is like walking around in public naked nowadays
Actually only about 25% of Americans have their Bachelor's Degree. And your not going to get a good job with just a degree.
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Old 02-15-2005, 08:08 PM   #12
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Actually only about 25% of Americans have their Bachelor's Degree. And your not going to get a good job with just a degree.

doesn't 75% of you yanks get welfare from the government

probably explains that then. j/k.

You are right a combination is best.
However, i hold the 4 years I studied for my IT degree ALOT more useful then MCSE.

degree + experience + other certs
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