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Old 02-08-2005, 04:24 PM   #1
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People who believe in god

explain to me one thing,
How can god take away/punish all the innocent people?
You might say they weren't really innocent by your standards, and I can agree.
But what about children who are ages 1 month to 3 years, it's immpossible they could've do something so wrong to deserve death.

And what about children who are born handicapped an suffer the rest of their lives? How does that work?
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Old 02-08-2005, 04:25 PM   #2
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Havent you heard? God dont exist.....
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Old 02-08-2005, 04:30 PM   #3
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People who believe in god suck.

That is all...
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:00 PM   #4
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That is all...
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:02 PM   #5
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There is no proof of god's existence, but there is also no proof that he doesn't exist.
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:22 PM   #8
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:23 PM   #9
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Some lady stopped me in the neighborhood and talked to me for a few minutes about whatever and seemed cool..

Than all the sudden she started talking about the stars and how she has visions of god and shit.. I was outta there.. What is wrong with fuckin people..
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:27 PM   #11
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There is no proof of god's existence, but there is also no proof that he doesn't exist.
Thats idiotic, you are idiotic.

By your standards:

Santa Claus Still exists.
Life on other planets exist.
Green martian men exist.


The list goes on and on.
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:30 PM   #12
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Life on other planets most likely does exist. But there "could" be a god since so many people seem so certain of it for thousands of years, there just isn't any concrete evidence.
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:31 PM   #13
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Thats idiotic, you are idiotic.

By your standards:

Santa Claus Still exists.
Life on other planets exist.
Green martian men exist.


The list goes on and on.
By the way, you're idiotic. Santa Claus can be proven not to exist because it was made up by people etc etc, it can probably be traced. Green martian men do not exist because we have had machines goto mars and look around to prove there are no green men there. You should get some better examples to attack my comments with.
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:32 PM   #14
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:49 PM   #15
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By the way, you're idiotic. Santa Claus can be proven not to exist because it was made up by people etc etc, it can probably be traced. Green martian men do not exist because we have had machines goto mars and look around to prove there are no green men there. You should get some better examples to attack my comments with.

Okay what about other planets.

Just because we havent been on all of them or see them does it mean that thier are different civilizations just like us living there.

Dont joke yourself.

Untill we can prove it it doesnt exist.

Thats they way things work every heard the saying innocent until proven guilty.

That applies to this too.
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Okay what about other planets.

Just because we havent been on all of them or see them does it mean that thier are different civilizations just like us living there.

Dont joke yourself.

Untill we can prove it it doesnt exist.

Thats they way things work every heard the saying innocent until proven guilty.

That applies to this too.
Think about it. Every star out there you see is a sun with planets revolving around them. Don't you think at least a few of them have planets like earth that are the perfect distance away from the sun to sustain life? There has got to be other lifeforms living in the universe, it's huge, it's incomprehensible.
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:53 PM   #17
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Old 02-08-2005, 06:54 PM   #18
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By the way, you're idiotic. Santa Claus can be proven not to exist because it was made up by people....
You mean exactly like god?
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God does exist, i dont fit into any religion that is for sure, but there IS a God, everyone belives in God or else you would live your life 100% different.

God to me is the one who threw the first pitch.

God doesnt make suffering we all have the freedom of choice, and shit happens that is why we are humans.

we will die and God and "heaven/afterlife" will be nothing we could have ever explained.

read it learn it,

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Old 02-08-2005, 07:02 PM   #20
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Fucking deep shit.
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I find it highly more probable that there is sentient life on other planets than there being a God of the Earth who cares about all humans (every sparrow that falls to earth, etc) and who fights evil fallen angels in his spare time.
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Exactly like god.
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explain to me one thing,
How can god take away/punish all the innocent people?
You might say they weren't really innocent by your standards, and I can agree.
But what about children who are ages 1 month to 3 years, it's immpossible they could've do something so wrong to deserve death.

And what about children who are born handicapped an suffer the rest of their lives? How does that work?
Its simple. God does not punish, people are in the situation they are in due to their own actions in this life and previous lives. Its called karma.
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Old 02-08-2005, 09:01 PM   #25
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It's really quite simple:

If what I believe is false, I've lost nothing.

If what I believe is true, you've lost everything.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:56 AM   #26
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What is the purpose of life if God doesn't exist? All of our good deeds are useless after all. There is God, period.
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Death is not a punishment. It's just a part of energy moving on. You are too caught up in the whole religion thing, even though you are rebelling against it you are buying into the system, until you let go of that, you will be trapped into this singular mode of thinking.
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The only truth is the concept of infinity.



Think about it.

As you see bacteria (or maybe an insect), someone may see you the same way. Someone above them may see them the same way. So on and so forth.

The whole idea of a God or many Gods, could be simply explained as 'one of these races above us'. However, this could go on infinitely....so it can hurt your brain trying to picture it too deep heh
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Just like the boogie man or fucking santa clause.
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There must be a god because you believe in/need a god? Well that's pretty tight logic. You got me. *rolls eyes*
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"Thats they way things work every heard the saying innocent until proven guilty."



This applies to the American way of life. God damn you're such a fucking idiot. Most Gods are a tool for war. Nothing more and nothing less.
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But what about children who are ages 1 month to 3 years, it's immpossible they could've do something so wrong to deserve death.

And what about children who are born handicapped an suffer the rest of their lives? How does that work?

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1. Who said "Death" is a "Bad" thing? Death is moving on... to whatever else there is (if anything at all). Everyone must face their maker one day or another. Young, sexy, beautiful, funny, old, ugly, fat, stupid, handicap, black, brown, blue, green... it doesn't matter, death is speeding toward you whether you want it to or not.

2. If you do not believe that there is a "God", then you aparently don't know what "God" actually is. Not that I know exactly, but I have a good idea, and all of my own experiences tell me that there IS something that could be defined as such.

I don't go to any church. I don't pray. But, I do understand.

For those of you who know, will understand this as I do. Those of you who do not, will not, and I can't say it any better than that, because it's something you learn on your own.

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It's really quite simple:

If what I believe is false, I've lost nothing.

If what I believe is true, you've lost everything.
Very true, this is how i see it also.


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"Thats they way things work every heard the saying innocent until proven guilty."



This applies to the American way of life. God damn you're such a fucking idiot. Most Gods are a tool for war. Nothing more and nothing less.
"Thats they way things work every heard the saying innocent until proven guilty."

You quoted this as if it were an excerpt from something, unfortunately, I do not believe your syntax. I think this is just something you typed and put "" around it to make it appear as if it were "Official".

Anyhow, to debunk your myth of reality, You stated, "That's the way things work.." and directed it at "This applies to the American way of life". This train must be derailed for you my Kentucky friend, as it is incorrect. This so-called, "American way of life" is in fact a capitalistic replublic, and in this republic of capitalism, "Innocent until proven guilty" only applies to civilians doing civilian things in a court of law. This does not apply to business entities, which is our basis for capitalism. It would be safe to say, that as a business person or employee of a business person or entity, your actions are representing a company, or are in lieu of or representing a business entitiy about 1/3 to 1/2 of your day or more depending on your area of monetary gains.

In being such, your LIFE, as it were, IS by definition, a majority of the time, a "Business Entity" and "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" aka "Legal Maxim" does NOT apply to you during such periods of your life. As a business entity or representative thereof, you are bound to the laws that govern "Business Entities" which state that you are in fact "Guilty Until Proven Innocent".

Fin'.

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God does exist, i dont fit into any religion that is for sure, but there IS a God, everyone belives in God or else you would live your life 100% different.

God to me is the one who threw the first pitch.

God doesnt make suffering we all have the freedom of choice, and shit happens that is why we are humans.

we will die and God and "heaven/afterlife" will be nothing we could have ever explained.

read it learn it,

people who say they dont belive in God have lied to themselves for to long.
wow MetaMan... that's about the first time I see you post something useful. No bashing intended, this shows you're actually one of the smarter people around here
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LOL, thats like saying "theres no proof of flying monkeys with donkey dicks, but there is no proof otherwise either"
You are right. It is "LIKE" that, in being there are words that form a sentence, and you having a basic rudimentary understanding of the concept that was being demonstrated, although missing the point entirely. Much like ice cream is similar to a car wash. You are correct.

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It's really quite simple:

If what I believe is false, I've lost nothing.

If what I believe is true, you've lost everything.
If what you believe is false, you've lost your entire life.

A life lived on the basis of a lie is no life at all.
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explain to me one thing,
How can god take away/punish all the innocent people?
You might say they weren't really innocent by your standards, and I can agree.
But what about children who are ages 1 month to 3 years, it's immpossible they could've do something so wrong to deserve death.

And what about children who are born handicapped an suffer the rest of their lives? How does that work?

Every living thing must die...
The Spirit is what lives on

Even Jesus (The one perfect man)
It has nothing to do with innocence...

It's apart of life
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God does exist, i dont fit into any religion that is for sure, but there IS a God, everyone belives in God or else you would live your life 100% different.

God to me is the one who threw the first pitch.

God doesnt make suffering we all have the freedom of choice, and shit happens that is why we are humans.

we will die and God and "heaven/afterlife" will be nothing we could have ever explained.

read it learn it,

people who say they dont belive in God have lied to themselves for to long.
great post my fellow "believer"
takes a real man to stand up for what he believes in amongst non "believers"
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But what about children who are ages 1 month to 3 years, it's immpossible they could've do something so wrong to deserve death.

And what about children who are born handicapped an suffer the rest of their lives? How does that work?

Karma.

They fucked up in their previous lives.
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Karma.

They fucked up in their previous lives.
if you believe in God you don't believe in previous life
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Old 02-09-2005, 06:37 AM   #48
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if you believe in God you don't believe in previous life
Okay then, lets talk in Christian terms.

Kids can die because of their parents sins. (this can be found the bible)
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Yeah, kill the babies for their parents' sins. God is great!
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Old 02-09-2005, 06:40 AM   #50
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Okay then, lets talk in Christian terms.

Kids can die because of their parents sins. (this can be found the bible)

No, kids go straight to heaven
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