western digital drives appear to be a piece of crap - GoFuckYourself.com

rowan · 02-12-2005, 02:33 AM

Until now I had only seen some people say to avoid them... now I've experienced it directly. I bought my wife a new computer (so I couldn't choose the brand) and after FDISK and FORMAT C: /U the fucking thing just clicks repeatedly when you power on, and the BIOS reports a drive error!

At least it's dying before I install everything, rather than quietly taking out her data in a month.

I'm going to ask for a different brand when they replace it.

baddog · 02-12-2005, 02:38 AM

I always liked WD. and their warranty is honored for like 5 years or something (last I looked).

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 02:41 AM

Western Digital drives suck. We refuse to use them AND also refuse to use IBM (now Hitachi) Deskstar drives. They WILL fail miserably.

Head clicking/clunking is a sure sign of a head crash.
If I can find them, I'll post a photo of what that looks like...
Basically the head ends up touching the surface of the disk and literally scrapes off the metallic coating leaving a see through area on the disk platter. When the head gets to that part, it doesnt know what to do
so the controller keeps pulling it back and forward in attempts to get a bearing on things...

Red Ezra · 02-12-2005, 02:43 AM

they are bad and have failed on me more than once

Vlad · 02-12-2005, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SplitInfinity

Western Digital drives suck. We refuse to use them AND also refuse to use IBM (now Hitachi) Deskstar drives. They WILL fail miserably.

Head clicking/clunking is a sure sign of a head crash.
If I can find them, I'll post a photo of what that looks like...
Basically the head ends up touching the surface of the disk and literally scrapes off the metallic coating leaving a see through area on the disk platter. When the head gets to that part, it doesnt know what to do
so the controller keeps pulling it back and forward in attempts to get a bearing on things...

holy moly I can hear some clunking from my box
I better back up things right now

so , tell us what you would like to suggest ? Seagate is any good ?

arnette · 02-12-2005, 02:46 AM

i have a 120 and 2x 200gig in WD.

about 2-3 weeks ago one of the 200s crashed out on me, corrupted all my data, and the partition tables disapeared. This week the other 200 is starting to currupt data as well. Im never using WD again

Stamen · 02-12-2005, 02:50 AM

Back in the day WD used to make good drives, and all my Maxtor drives would crash and burn, now it's the exact opposite.

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 02:50 AM

Maxtor or Seagate.
:-)

Photos coming now, I found them...
YOU WILL TRIP OUT WHEN YOU SEE HOW VULNERABLE YOUR DATA IS....
LOOKIE HERE......

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 02:52 AM

On the left is a good drive, on the right is the customers HOSED drive.....

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-12-2005, 02:52 AM

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SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 02:54 AM

Me, in the hard drive, lol

rowan · 02-12-2005, 02:54 AM

Actually, I just realised I've had experience with drives crashing before... 3 months ago one of my server drives started throwing up sector read errors. My host caught it and copied most of the data over to a new drive, so it wasn't a complete loss. It's the only time in the 4 years I've been leasing servers (currently have 5 operational) that a drive has crashed.

It was a Western Digital.

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 02:55 AM

Another angle...

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 02:56 AM

Western digital bites.

rowan · 02-12-2005, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SplitInfinity

On the left is a good drive, on the right is the customers HOSED drive.....

Where are the heads on the FUBAR drive? I'm curious to see what they look like.

02-12-2005, 02:56 AM

i've had bad experiences with WD before, but my maxtor drives seem to be very reliable

emthree · 02-12-2005, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SplitInfinity

Western Digital drives suck. We refuse to use them AND also refuse to use IBM (now Hitachi) Deskstar drives. They WILL fail miserably.

Head clicking/clunking is a sure sign of a head crash.
If I can find them, I'll post a photo of what that looks like...
Basically the head ends up touching the surface of the disk and literally scrapes off the metallic coating leaving a see through area on the disk platter. When the head gets to that part, it doesnt know what to do
so the controller keeps pulling it back and forward in attempts to get a bearing on things...

Could this be the same case with my laptop?
I have this Inspiron that clutters like motherfucker, then it eventually fails if I leave it on long enough. I just put it aside and use another lappie. But maybe it's something I can fix? (assuming the prob you described goes for laptops too)

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:01 AM

The only economical way to fix this problem is to replace the hard drive.
Backup your data now EVERYONE. Learn from this. ;-)

Take it from us, we see colocation customers bite it all the time because they
think "ill backup when I get around to it" but that day never comes....
We backup for most of our customers, but some are either un-managed, co-located or they just wanna do it all theirselves.... No matter if you are managed or not, you need backups!!! Make local copies, put them in a bank safety deposit box and
sleep well at night. Backups of backups of backups. hell, store one at grandmas house for the heck of it.

Project-Shadow · 02-12-2005, 03:01 AM

WD died on me once... Maxtor died on me twice, I now do a monthly ghost of both my drives just to be on the safe side -_-'

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:09 AM

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baddog · 02-12-2005, 03:09 AM

guess it shows I have not had to buy a hdd in a few years

Theo · 02-12-2005, 03:11 AM

i agree with SplitInfinity, now im thinking of it all the failed disks of the past were WD (except a samsung)

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:14 AM

Samsungs have been ok with me so far I think.. Their name does not stand out
and I know we use them from time to time... never really heard anything negative about them.

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:15 AM

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:17 AM

On the failed drive, these are the top and bottom platters. You can see the problem got to BOTH platters. Nothing is safe.

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:18 AM

Notice how the platter is basically made of a glass type material and coated with a mettalic coat... the head just scratches it right off the glass and the glass is now
100% clear where the head crashed.... see my finger though it?

seeric · 02-12-2005, 03:19 AM

i only use maxtor. never had one croak in 8 years.

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:19 AM

This reminds me of like 2001 a Space Oddesy (sp?)

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:20 AM

You wanted some head? Im about to give it to ya! Head on the way....

lol

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:21 AM

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:21 AM

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:22 AM

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:23 AM

The Grand Finale...

Theo · 02-12-2005, 03:25 AM

still have a 20gb maxtor for many years,np at all. I'll better stick to them from now on

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:33 AM

Yeah stick to them. I always use Maxtors without problems.

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 03:43 AM

This thread would be un-informative without a hot chick passing by.....

VirtuMike · 02-12-2005, 04:48 AM

Oddly enough, I have had more maxtors go in the past two years than all other brands combined. I now only buy Western Digitals (and DeathStars on occasion). I wonder how Seagates are these days.

OG LennyT · 02-12-2005, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stamen

Back in the day WD used to make good drives, and all my Maxtor drives would crash and burn, now it's the exact opposite.

exactly what I have noticed

JamesK2 · 02-12-2005, 05:02 AM

oh my god all my hds are WD

I'm backing everything up now!!

SplitInfinity · 02-12-2005, 05:12 AM

Quote -- JamesK
"oh my god all my hds are WD
I'm backing everything up now!!"

Rude Awakining?

Evil Doer · 02-12-2005, 05:22 AM

I've had bad luck with WD aswell, bought 5 SATA drives at $200 a piece and 2 of them were functional. Atleast there is no problem RMA'ing them with the warranty and all.

DutchTeenCash · 02-12-2005, 05:29 AM

wd sucks, i had a few they all went down, one even due to temperature, maxtors all along here no problem at all

perfectodollars-gabrio · 02-12-2005, 07:41 AM

oddly enough, during the last years i had IBMs, maxtors and WDs and averagely they would all start doing crazy stuff after one year more or less.....could it be due to the KIND of work they do? a guy that works in a comp shop told me that if you do lots of video editing, then your hdd will be really stressed, 1 year of video editing work could be compared to 5 years of regular hdd's life....do you think that that was just plain BS or can be true?

tungsten · 02-12-2005, 08:16 AM

some just arent lucky with WD

Rui · 02-12-2005, 08:22 AM

Western Digital lost some of their momentum, but are far from beeing as shitty as you say...

Loki · 02-12-2005, 08:29 AM

first off Very cool thread, great pics as well.

2nd, I've used WD for many years and never had a prob with them,personaly I prefer Maxtor or Seagate, but I seem to have probs with Seagate drives when they get filled to the brim lol, (I do that alot) in fact not a month ago I lost my 80gig SG backup drive, no warning, no noises zip zero nadda. just booted up and it was gone, took it out, chip was fried

took drive to data recovery pretty much useless. So now i'm sticking with Maxtor.

But hell I also swore by windows 98 when I had my cyber cafe open a few years back lol.

-Loki-

jimmyf · 02-12-2005, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SplitInfinity

Western Digital drives suck. We refuse to use them AND also refuse to use IBM (now Hitachi) Deskstar drives. They WILL fail miserably.

Head clicking/clunking is a sure sign of a head crash.
If I can find them, I'll post a photo of what that looks like...
Basically the head ends up touching the surface of the disk and literally scrapes off the metallic coating leaving a see through area on the disk platter. When the head gets to that part, it doesnt know what to do
so the controller keeps pulling it back and forward in attempts to get a bearing on things...

Western Digital drives suck

I did have four (4) of'em laying on the floor by my comuter desk.... Just 2 remind me how much they sucked.

All four (4) of'em went out.

Tom_PM · 02-12-2005, 09:22 AM

Never had a problem with the 10 or 12 WD drives I've had/still have in use.

My original 10MEG, full height MFM drive that I bought second-hand for about $150 in 1990 or so is the only drive I've had die before I upgraded (I lost some Pascal and C programs). Although drives are rated MTBF, I've been lucky.

My host backs up my servers each night, so thats a plus..

*knock on wood*

SplitInfinity, you need to buy some clockworks now and build yourself a new shop clock outta that trashed disk and dead heads! :D

tony286 · 02-12-2005, 09:26 AM

Now I had problems with maxtor but my wd's have worked no problem. Could it be Im using their newer sata's? I wonder

LadyMischief · 02-12-2005, 09:26 AM

They suck, but their warrenties are good. Maxtor is probably a better choice though.

02-12-2005, 02:33 AM	#1
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	western digital drives appear to be a piece of crap Until now I had only seen some people say to avoid them... now I've experienced it directly. I bought my wife a new computer (so I couldn't choose the brand) and after FDISK and FORMAT C: /U the fucking thing just clicks repeatedly when you power on, and the BIOS reports a drive error! At least it's dying before I install everything, rather than quietly taking out her data in a month. I'm going to ask for a different brand when they replace it.

02-12-2005, 02:50 AM	#7
Stamen Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vegas Posts: 698	Back in the day WD used to make good drives, and all my Maxtor drives would crash and burn, now it's the exact opposite. __________________ Show me the pistil porn!

02-12-2005, 02:52 AM	#10
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02-12-2005, 04:48 AM	#37
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	Oddly enough, I have had more maxtors go in the past two years than all other brands combined. I now only buy Western Digitals (and DeathStars on occasion). I wonder how Seagates are these days. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

02-12-2005, 05:02 AM	#39
JamesK2 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6,589	oh my god all my hds are WD I'm backing everything up now!! __________________

02-12-2005, 02:38 AM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I always liked WD. and their warranty is honored for like 5 years or something (last I looked).

02-12-2005, 02:41 AM	#3
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Western Digital drives suck. We refuse to use them AND also refuse to use IBM (now Hitachi) Deskstar drives. They WILL fail miserably. Head clicking/clunking is a sure sign of a head crash. If I can find them, I'll post a photo of what that looks like... Basically the head ends up touching the surface of the disk and literally scrapes off the metallic coating leaving a see through area on the disk platter. When the head gets to that part, it doesnt know what to do so the controller keeps pulling it back and forward in attempts to get a bearing on things...

02-12-2005, 02:43 AM	#4
Red Ezra redezra.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 4,680	they are bad and have failed on me more than once

02-12-2005, 02:46 AM	#6
arnette Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 283	i have a 120 and 2x 200gig in WD. about 2-3 weeks ago one of the 200s crashed out on me, corrupted all my data, and the partition tables disapeared. This week the other 200 is starting to currupt data as well. Im never using WD again

02-12-2005, 02:54 AM	#11
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Me, in the hard drive, lol

02-12-2005, 02:55 AM	#13
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Another angle...

02-12-2005, 02:56 AM	#14
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Western digital bites.

02-12-2005, 02:56 AM	#16
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	i've had bad experiences with WD before, but my maxtor drives seem to be very reliable

02-12-2005, 03:01 AM	#18
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	The only economical way to fix this problem is to replace the hard drive. Backup your data now EVERYONE. Learn from this. ;-) Take it from us, we see colocation customers bite it all the time because they think "ill backup when I get around to it" but that day never comes.... We backup for most of our customers, but some are either un-managed, co-located or they just wanna do it all theirselves.... No matter if you are managed or not, you need backups!!! Make local copies, put them in a bank safety deposit box and sleep well at night. Backups of backups of backups. hell, store one at grandmas house for the heck of it.

02-12-2005, 03:01 AM	#19
Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	WD died on me once... Maxtor died on me twice, I now do a monthly ghost of both my drives just to be on the safe side -_-'

02-12-2005, 03:09 AM	#20
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Click here to sign up now

02-12-2005, 03:11 AM	#22
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i agree with SplitInfinity, now im thinking of it all the failed disks of the past were WD (except a samsung)

02-12-2005, 03:14 AM	#23
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Samsungs have been ok with me so far I think.. Their name does not stand out and I know we use them from time to time... never really heard anything negative about them.

02-12-2005, 03:15 AM	#24
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047

02-12-2005, 03:17 AM	#25
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	On the failed drive, these are the top and bottom platters. You can see the problem got to BOTH platters. Nothing is safe.

02-12-2005, 03:18 AM	#26
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Notice how the platter is basically made of a glass type material and coated with a mettalic coat... the head just scratches it right off the glass and the glass is now 100% clear where the head crashed.... see my finger though it?

02-12-2005, 03:19 AM	#27
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	i only use maxtor. never had one croak in 8 years.

02-12-2005, 03:20 AM	#29
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	You wanted some head? Im about to give it to ya! Head on the way.... lol

02-12-2005, 03:21 AM	#30
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02-12-2005, 03:23 AM	#33
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	The Grand Finale...

02-12-2005, 03:25 AM	#34
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	still have a 20gb maxtor for many years,np at all. I'll better stick to them from now on

02-12-2005, 03:33 AM	#35
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Yeah stick to them. I always use Maxtors without problems.

02-12-2005, 03:43 AM	#36
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	This thread would be un-informative without a hot chick passing by.....

02-12-2005, 05:12 AM	#40
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	Quote -- JamesK "oh my god all my hds are WD I'm backing everything up now!!" Rude Awakining?

02-12-2005, 05:22 AM	#41
Evil Doer Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ICQ: 251-911-362 Posts: 915	I've had bad luck with WD aswell, bought 5 SATA drives at $200 a piece and 2 of them were functional. Atleast there is no problem RMA'ing them with the warranty and all.

02-12-2005, 05:29 AM	#42
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	wd sucks, i had a few they all went down, one even due to temperature, maxtors all along here no problem at all __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

02-12-2005, 07:41 AM	#43
perfectodollars-gabrio Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: www.perfectodollars.com Posts: 3,811	oddly enough, during the last years i had IBMs, maxtors and WDs and averagely they would all start doing crazy stuff after one year more or less.....could it be due to the KIND of work they do? a guy that works in a comp shop told me that if you do lots of video editing, then your hdd will be really stressed, 1 year of video editing work could be compared to 5 years of regular hdd's life....do you think that that was just plain BS or can be true?

02-12-2005, 08:16 AM	#44
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02-12-2005, 08:22 AM	#45
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Western Digital lost some of their momentum, but are far from beeing as shitty as you say...