Should upskirting be a felony? - GoFuckYourself.com

SteveLightspeed · 02-08-2005, 12:45 PM

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2HousePlague · 02-08-2005, 12:50 PM

I'd say the peeping tom and voyeur penalties are appropriate.

j-

MikeB · 02-08-2005, 12:50 PM

no, until they film your daughter or wife, then yes.

AaronM · 02-08-2005, 12:52 PM

"It's very difficult for legislators and for law enforcement officers to keep up with the criminals, because the technology is evolving so rapidly," Leary said. "It's a challenge, and it's sad to say the criminals are just ahead of the curve."

If they're not breaking any laws...How can a "director of the National Center for Victims of Crime" publicly call them criminals?

BigWebRev · 02-08-2005, 12:59 PM

"Thirty-eight states have privacy laws on the use of cameras for private surveillance, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures."

odd, only 38.........

Sosa · 02-08-2005, 01:00 PM

hard to say, I guess it matters how it is done

rollinOn20s · 02-08-2005, 01:02 PM

Who cares, keep the vids coming!

tradermcduck · 02-08-2005, 01:03 PM

'The Internet has only exacerbated the problem. Type the words "upskirt" and "downblouse" into the search engine Google, and millions of Web sites pop up.'

SmokeyTheBear · 02-08-2005, 01:04 PM

Is that the ladies husband and daughter next to her or just random people ? Who shot that ?

abadfish · 02-08-2005, 01:05 PM

As a pervert I would say no but I really believe it should be a crime, maybe not a felony but a crime. I know I would be fucking pissed if someone did that to someone I care about. i would kick their ass for sure.

Dagwolf · 02-08-2005, 01:06 PM

I don't think it should be a felony... until/unless the video is shared or published. If it's used for "private" gratification and no one knows about it but the photographer ... where's the damage?

Similarly, if the subject is unidentifiable, no damage is done... Still, it should be at lest a misdemeanor. We can't have women feeling like they're being watched from below every time they go up stairs or use the bathroom.

SykkBoy · 02-08-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

I don't think it should be a felony... until/unless the video is shared or published. If it's used for "private" gratification and no one knows about it but the photographer ... where's the damage?

Similarly, if the subject is unidentifiable, no damage is done... Still, it should be at lest a misdemeanor. We can't have women feeling like they're being watched from below every time they go up stairs or use the bathroom.

what if it's an upskirt of a 9 year old girl?

punker barbie · 02-08-2005, 01:14 PM

i made a thread about this a while ago too lazy to dig it up but its called the
The Video Voyeurism Prevention Act ... It's been passed by the senate and awaits approval from the House, i have yet to follow up.

Herb Kornfield · 02-08-2005, 01:26 PM

I was in a bar 2 weekends ago drinking with friends and we had a digital camera there and took some pics since it was 1 person's going away party from the wife's job.

There were a ton of babes there and 2 of them asked to get their pic taken. I was buzzed and since we all got carded on the way in, they were 21... in fact 26 & 30.

I take their pic and thats it, go back to drinking.....

hour later I go to leave and the babes husband comes out and totally freaking out that Im going to be posting his wife's face pic all over the net, perverts like me need to be arrested, etc... he TOTALLY went mental.... especially when I told him that Im not using her as content, I have no release and she ASKED to get her pic taken in the club. I offered to delete it, he was just refusing to stop screaming pervert and shit, lol

It almost got into a street fight until a few of my homies that were there asked him if we wanted to step out back to talk more. He declined but, it made me think of the ramifications of when you take "voyuer" pics of what can happen if a nutbag approaches after the fact.

webseth · 02-08-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

what if it's an upskirt of a 9 year old girl?

im sure theres already plenty of laws covering that

Manowar · 02-08-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeB_CE

no, until they film your daughter or wife, then yes.

MarkTiarra · 02-08-2005, 01:43 PM

You know, why is everyone so uptight about their body? Oh no, someone saw me naked! Big fucking deal! We all have them and we act like it's some secret. Get over it already.

Oh wait... don't cuz then it'll be normal and you won't want to spend money on it! Damn the body is obscene don't dare look!

xNetworx · 02-08-2005, 01:58 PM

Upskirting should only be a felony if its a child.

eroswebmaster · 02-08-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

You know, why is everyone so uptight about their body? Oh no, someone saw me naked! Big fucking deal! We all have them and we act like it's some secret. Get over it already.

Oh wait... don't cuz then it'll be normal and you won't want to spend money on it! Damn the body is obscene don't dare look!

This coming from the same guy who got riled about people not paying $9.95 for napster or a service like that calling them leeches.
I don't see how something like this isn't as bad or worse.
You have people walking around and making content to sell on the internet out of unsuspecting citizens who are just going about and leading their dailiy lives.

SykkBoy · 02-08-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Upskirting should only be a felony if its a child.

so, you're going to ask for ID before taking a pic up someone's skirt?

SykkBoy · 02-08-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by webseth

im sure theres already plenty of laws covering that

which laws would those be?

eroswebmaster · 02-08-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

which laws would those be?

Right. Everyone always assumes there are laws in place.
I remember on one of the 20/20 type shows they had the case of one guy who set up cameras in a changing room used for friends who came over with their children to swim in his pool.
He could not be brought up on any charges because none existed covering hidden cameras in his own changing room.

Another guy actually set up a camera in a neighbor's house and watched her shower...a landlord did something similar. NO EXISTING LAWS were broken because they were given entry so they couldn't even get them on unlawful entry.

Laws have changed since then...but still the victims in these cases couldn't do squat.

BradM · 02-08-2005, 02:14 PM

Upskirting is an invasion of privacy as far as I am personally concerned.

SykkBoy · 02-08-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Right. Everyone always assumes there are laws in place.
I remember on one of the 20/20 type shows they had the case of one guy who set up cameras in a changing room used for friends who came over with their children to swim in his pool.
He could not be brought up on any charges because none existed covering hidden cameras in his own changing room.

Another guy actually set up a camera in a neighbor's house and watched her shower...a landlord did something similar. NO EXISTING LAWS were broken because they were given entry so they couldn't even get them on unlawful entry.

Laws have changed since then...but still the victims in these cases couldn't do squat.

exactly

I'm not sure if you were in Vegas when they had the guy who was videotaping children and teens at Wet n Wild, zooming in on their asses, crotches, etc. and nothing could be done about it because they were out in public and he was taping from a public sidewalk...he was then selling the videos on the Internet...I think they finally nailed him for improper business license or some shit like that because even though what he did was clearly wrong, there were no existing laws against what he was doing...

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Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	I don't think it should be a felony... until/unless the video is shared or published. If it's used for "private" gratification and no one knows about it but the photographer ... where's the damage? Similarly, if the subject is unidentifiable, no damage is done... Still, it should be at lest a misdemeanor. We can't have women feeling like they're being watched from below every time they go up stairs or use the bathroom. __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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MikeB Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012	no, until they film your daughter or wife, then yes.

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AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	"It's very difficult for legislators and for law enforcement officers to keep up with the criminals, because the technology is evolving so rapidly," Leary said. "It's a challenge, and it's sad to say the criminals are just ahead of the curve." If they're not breaking any laws...How can a "director of the National Center for Victims of Crime" publicly call them criminals?

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BigWebRev Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: L A Posts: 1,631	"Thirty-eight states have privacy laws on the use of cameras for private surveillance, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures." odd, only 38.........

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Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	hard to say, I guess it matters how it is done

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tradermcduck Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Europe - By the way I know my nickname sucks ;-) Posts: 2,362	'The Internet has only exacerbated the problem. Type the words "upskirt" and "downblouse" into the search engine Google, and millions of Web sites pop up.'

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abadfish Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 1,482	As a pervert I would say no but I really believe it should be a crime, maybe not a felony but a crime. I know I would be fucking pissed if someone did that to someone I care about. i would kick their ass for sure.

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punker barbie Meow Meow!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 10,226	i made a thread about this a while ago too lazy to dig it up but its called the The Video Voyeurism Prevention Act ... It's been passed by the senate and awaits approval from the House, i have yet to follow up. __________________ Chaturbate Affiliate Support: [email protected]

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Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	I was in a bar 2 weekends ago drinking with friends and we had a digital camera there and took some pics since it was 1 person's going away party from the wife's job. There were a ton of babes there and 2 of them asked to get their pic taken. I was buzzed and since we all got carded on the way in, they were 21... in fact 26 & 30. I take their pic and thats it, go back to drinking..... hour later I go to leave and the babes husband comes out and totally freaking out that Im going to be posting his wife's face pic all over the net, perverts like me need to be arrested, etc... he TOTALLY went mental.... especially when I told him that Im not using her as content, I have no release and she ASKED to get her pic taken in the club. I offered to delete it, he was just refusing to stop screaming pervert and shit, lol It almost got into a street fight until a few of my homies that were there asked him if we wanted to step out back to talk more. He declined but, it made me think of the ramifications of when you take "voyuer" pics of what can happen if a nutbag approaches after the fact.

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MarkTiarra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 3,833	You know, why is everyone so uptight about their body? Oh no, someone saw me naked! Big fucking deal! We all have them and we act like it's some secret. Get over it already. Oh wait... don't cuz then it'll be normal and you won't want to spend money on it! Damn the body is obscene don't dare look! __________________ Retired Pornosticator

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Upskirting should only be a felony if its a child.

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Upskirting is an invasion of privacy as far as I am personally concerned.