Sorry to hear that Ivy............ But I guess you feel better now :winkwink:

Eww... bad post.

My attorney would freak the fuck out :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Here are some others to make sure you don't have... All credit card fraud

Mikhailouskaya Natalia (BE)
[email protected]

Natalia Mikhailouskaya (BE)
[email protected]

Aron Feher (CA)
[email protected]

Alexei Trebounskikh (CA)
[email protected]

Dmytro Glyeba (CA)
[email protected]

Natalia Cameanaia (CA)
[email protected]

thanks girl!! Yea...that's a scary thought :(


Ivy

Not really since it is public information available on yahoo :-



Ivy

Yeah, checks can be problematic like that. Here is how we solved it:

We process through WTS and EC. I was noticing more of sufer abuse, than affiliate abuse. Surfers were signing up WITH checks and info like email address:

asddfghjk [email protected]

Now I think we all know this can't be a valid email address, Right? Well, I had to explain to the guys at another check processor that an email address cant have a space in it, nor is ".ccc" a properending. After about 5 minutes of arguing with her, she informed me that I was prolly wrong, and "this kind of thing happens". I then asked her to look up the name of that person signing up. Here is is:

adsf8d oi (or something to that effect)

Nice scrubbing you sons of bitches. I won the argument, switched the Check Processing, and now require a return email. Sales stayed about the same and I eliminated about 95% of the crap signups.

I dunno ... just reminds me something but I can't really tell what exactly ... I heard it b4

Somebody left him a nice message on his answering machine

WOOT !!!

Goody, Goody .... my evil horns are starting to show now :drinkup

hehehe


Ivy

No really. He would.

Especially if I linked to the guys site in this thread (that he might stumble upon in his ref logs).

Anyway, just trying to offer a friendly suggestion to CYA during rants where you are being recorded forever.

50 bounced checks :(

I hear ya...thanks for the advice. Actually I hope he does find it in his stats so he knows he fucked with the wrong person :winkwink:


Ivy

What would you do if say... Agelina Joliee posted your publicly available data on her fan forum and said something like... "I hate Private Ivy ... here's her home address - feel free to pay her a visit for me." And then you saw that in your logs.

I completely understand getting frustrated with crooks like that and venting, I just hope (for your sake, not his) that you don't have any lurking fans or stalkers here that want to impress you is what I'm saying. :2 cents:

I'm guessing you mean check transactions.

What webmaster is stupid enough to put their home address available on yahoo?

I wouldn't mind because nowhere on the internet will you find my actual physical address publicly available...and if I scammed someone like this guy did, I guess I'd assume I deserved it .


Ivy

DAMN!! I just sent him a FAT check as well.

I hope that was a joke :Oh crap


Ivy

thanks for the word.

Bump for Ivy...that sucks ass

I'm guessing he did too ....



Ivy

That sucks. :( Hope he gets caught.

How did he manage that? Did he signup to your site(s) himself using false info? In that case, why wouldn't ccbill catch that? As hard as they scrub you'd think they would pick up on it.

Because 1 $100 Chargeback is equal to 10 $10 Chargebacks and if your Chargebacks total more that 2.5% of your proceeds your fucked.

no. i mean (Visa) credit card transactions

bogus check transactions don't hurt anything but your ego when they take back the money that you THOUGHT you made.

Damn, owned :1orglaugh

Well of course I know that...but we're talking about check signups here. And thankfully in the last 2 years I've only had 6 total chargebacks, some of those being idiot webmasters. Returned checks are a different story though but I'm switching my processor for ACH payments now :thumbsup


Ivy

all scammers need to be ass fucked

Hey Ivy no that wasnt a joke we did some research on him

he or his partner is in montreal as well

he sent us 125 joins

1 to CCbill
124 to WTS checks all on the 3 month option funny thing is he contacted us because his name on the check was wrong and we had to reissue it
today we cancelled that check it was just sent out a day or so ago

thank you for pointing it out!

the ccbill charged back
and 60% of the checks have bounced and been paid on

it appears that NATS doesnt mark them when they get returned and we still pay on them I am not sure about this but I would like to investigate it more
it may not be nats but a WTS issue of not reporting them

I am going to see if nats can not pay on checks untill they clear
this would clear up a lot of issues

at this point I Think I am going to turn off the check option on our joins untill we can get somthing in place to prevent it

its assholes like this that fuck it up for everyone else

Tanker

Damn Tanker :( Your story is worse than mine. But WOOHOO that you cancelled payment on his check!!! I hope he gets shut down big time .... :mad:

I am glad to know that by sharing this it did at least help someone out ( besides just allowing me to vent LOL ) !


Ivy

I hope that this guy goes away or goes to jail we are investigating further

WOW THIS GUY GETS AROUND

He sent us 173 Joins at $69.99 with 17 chargbacks SO FAR.. I cut him off last week, but have sent him over 5k so for..... FUCKING DICK.....

His next 2 week payout was $3600 commission, I cut him off right before that...

Today I got a call for some old lady asking why WE took her money out of her bank account too.. FUCKING SUX, the refunds and chargebacks will be ROLLING in over the next 60 days.... YIKES...

P.S. His address where we send check is in Canada...

damn that sucks, hope everything works out in the end.

I was going to reply and ask why it was such a big deal considering your net loss is zero, and he wouldn't have been paid by ccbill anyway... but I changed my mind when I saw he had scammed others as well. :321GFY

Im just unclear as to how he's doing this. Does he have access to other people's bank accounts?

Either way, why isn't anyone reporting him for fraud?

OMG.... hearing both of you guys stories I'm so glad that caught him early !!!

Hate it for all that he has been able to scam like this ..maybe we should all join up and go after him :winkwink:

Ivy

I'm not sure yet because as you know, you don't get the actual bank acct info of each signup from ccbill.

I hope these other guys go after him since he was able to get away with much more from them and don't know if/how I'll pursue it.

I do know I'm switching ACH processors to a company that does try to collect on returned checks and scrubs them harder. Thanks to Ben at http://www.achdebit.com/ I'll have less worries soon, but still be accepting checks on all my sites.

Ivy

Bumping this again since we now know of 3 programs this guy has scammed...want everyone to see and shut this fucker down :thumbsup



Ivy

isnt most important: number of transactions --> number of CHBs
?

thhat is important as well and needs to stay below 1%