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  • PrivateIvy
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 4257

    #1

    Scamming Affiliate - Paysite owners beware...a PrivateIvy rant !!

    Maybe I'm just venting , and then again maybe someone knows who this guy is or if you recognize his info you can avoid having this done to you.

    Jan 3rd new affiliate signs up to one of my programs. Over the next week he sends about 100 uniques per day and gets 1 $89.95 signup per day for 6 days straight, which is when I started wondering and checked into how much traffic he was sending and from where.

    Of course I found that all the $89.95 signups were with Checks, and all using a hotmail address though they were all different info .

    Long story short, this fucker caused a total of $624.55 in returned check signups which were deducted from my check this week

    So here's to Mr Francis Beaulieu or Mr Orland Robles who owns www.YoungTeenTGP.Net and sends traffic from www.YoungTeenTGP.Net/real

    his email addresses if valid are: [email protected] and [email protected] so please feel free to share as many emails with him for viagra, mortgage rates, cialis, or add him to your site newsletters and well...you get the point

    Thanks for letting me rant

    Ivy
  • SquirtingCarly
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2004
    • 359

    #2
    Wow, Ivy that sucks thanks for putting the word out.
    FatFuckingCash

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    • Doctor Dre
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jan 2001
      • 51692

      #3
      This name remind me something ... weird
      Originally posted by rayadp05
      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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      • PrivateIvy
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2003
        • 4257

        #4
        Originally posted by Doctor Dre
        This name remind me something ... weird

        Alright, Spill it.....


        Ivy

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        • WWC
          #1 Adult Content Provider
          • Jul 2003
          • 11577

          #5
          Sucks...who do you use for online checks processing? Dont they recongnize and evaluate sales for you?

          ps; thanks for the heads up
          [email protected]
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          • PrivateIvy
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2003
            • 4257

            #6
            Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
            Sucks...who do you use for online checks processing? Dont they recongnize and evaluate sales for you?

            ps; thanks for the heads up
            I use CCBill. When he sent the 3rd $89.95 signup with only 300 uniques and no other signup types, I called them to have them check into it. They said it all looked fine at that point. So then when it continued again for the next few days I called again and they finally put a stop to it.

            I hope like hell they didn't pay this fucker out on it and that they closed his ccbill affiliate account


            Ivy

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            • BV
              wtf
              • Sep 2001
              • 10914

              #7
              it's not smart to have an 89.95 option available. ESPECIALLY on credit card transactions

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              • NaughtyAllie
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2003
                • 1844

                #8
                Sorry to hear that Ivy.
                Kick his ass!

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                • newbreed
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 9898

                  #9
                  Thanks for the heads up Ivy, looking to see if he is on our program now.

                  Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
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                  fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                  • beemk
                    CLICK HERE
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 20829

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BV
                    it's not smart to have an 89.95 option available. ESPECIALLY on credit card transactions
                    why not? is it easier to charge back?
                    I host with Vacares

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                    • BVF
                      Black Vagina Finder
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 13975

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BV
                      it's not smart to have an 89.95 option available. ESPECIALLY on credit card transactions
                      naw man. I have a 99.95 option and I love it when I get one. The ONLY way to have such a high transaction should be by a credit card that was thoroughly scrubbed by ccbill. Shit like what happened to Ivy can happen but shit happens. I haven't had any problems with them and they are just as legit as the base price sales.

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                      • Top Jimmy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 2513

                        #12
                        I worked with the FBI on a carding operation being run through one of my programs. Pretty wild how good they are at finding people.

                        You should contact them. They may help.

                        In my case it was a huge amount of fraud, and it was stolen cards, so the FBI was glad to help.

                        Don't reply. Let it die.

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                        • PrivateIvy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 4257

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BV
                          it's not smart to have an 89.95 option available. ESPECIALLY on credit card transactions
                          hmm...never heard that one before. 3 of my sites do very well with that option. Just because a dishonest webmaster screwed it up this time , I don't think I should change join options that are converting well on my sites...





                          Ivy

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                          • camcutie
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 817

                            #14
                            Happened to me a few time out of Russia. The Russian affiliate was signing up with stolen credit cards and stolen checks and 75% of them were charging back within a week or two. After the third time instead of cancelling the account I just set his percentage to 0%. I'm sure he didn't like that.....

                            XOXOXO
                            *Krystal*

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                            • pxxx
                              First African GFY Member
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 12114

                              #15
                              That sucks Ivy, got the email addys. ;)

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                              • PrivateIvy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4257

                                #16
                                Originally posted by camcutie
                                Happened to me a few time out of Russia. The Russian affiliate was signing up with stolen credit cards and stolen checks and 75% of them were charging back within a week or two. After the third time instead of cancelling the account I just set his percentage to 0%. I'm sure he didn't like that.....

                                XOXOXO
                                *Krystal*
                                Well if you only reset his percentage then he wouldn't get charged back when you did and you'd still have all the bogus signups...correct ?


                                Ivy

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                                • PrivateIvy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 4257

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pxxx
                                  That sucks Ivy, got the email addys. ;)

                                  Hey, he has his home address listed on yahoo !!! LMFAO

                                  Orlando Robles

                                  2 Oakview Ter
                                  Jamaica Plain, MA 02130-4902 (map)

                                  Tel.: (617) 983-1489 (call this number)


                                  ( http://phone.people.yahoo.com/py/lg:...one=6179831489 )

                                  Anybody local to him, feel free to stop by for me :-


                                  Ivy

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                                  • Spunky
                                    I need a beer
                                    • Jun 2002
                                    • 133986

                                    #18
                                    Another day ...another scamming weasel

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                                    • NaughtyRob
                                      Two fresh affiliate progs
                                      • Nov 2004
                                      • 29602

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by PrivateIvy
                                      Hey, he has his home address listed on yahoo !!! LMFAO

                                      Orlando Robles

                                      2 Oakview Ter
                                      Jamaica Plain, MA 02130-4902 (map)

                                      Tel.: (617) 983-1489 (call this number)


                                      ( http://phone.people.yahoo.com/py/lg:...one=6179831489 )

                                      Anybody local to him, feel free to stop by for me :-


                                      Ivy

                                      Bump for Ivy.
                                      This sucks.
                                      [email protected]
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                                      • dcortez
                                        DINO CORTEZâ„¢
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 2145

                                        #20
                                        Checks are tricky business.

                                        I have two check options: 29.95 and 59.95 and I risk manage all check signups.

                                        Statistically, good check signups go for the 29.95 and bad check signups go for the $59.95 - it's a great filter. Theives are greedy.

                                        -Dino

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                                        • Jace
                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 35562

                                          #21
                                          haha, that would be great if someone went to his house!

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                                          • camcutie
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2004
                                            • 817

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PrivateIvy
                                            Well if you only reset his percentage then he wouldn't get charged back when you did and you'd still have all the bogus signups...correct ?


                                            Ivy
                                            The first two times the guy signed up as an affiliate I cancelled him but he would just sign back up... So the third time instead of cancelling him I just made his precentage 0 and he stopped signing up..... therefore the stolen cards stopped as well.
                                            XOXOXO,
                                            *Krystal*

                                            Please Visit My Website CamCutie.com

                                            ICQ 203-628-284

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                                            • Rui
                                              web
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 9533

                                              #23
                                              That totally sucks, what are you going to do besides inform us all (and thank you for that)?

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                                              • PrivateIvy
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 4257

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Rui
                                                That totally sucks, what are you going to do besides inform us all (and thank you for that)?

                                                Well, not sure there is anything I can do, so posting a good rant just made me feel better LOL


                                                Ivy

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                                                • Extreme Nate
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 309

                                                  #25
                                                  Thanks for the heads up on that fucker Ivy

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                                                  • TurboAngel
                                                    H.B.I.C.
                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 30122

                                                    #26
                                                    Shit that suck's big time.


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                                                    • Cassie
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 3139

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PrivateIvy
                                                      hmm...never heard that one before. 3 of my sites do very well with that option. Just because a dishonest webmaster screwed it up this time , I don't think I should change join options that are converting well on my sites...





                                                      Ivy

                                                      agreed
                                                      ICQ: 309756847
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                                                      • tranza
                                                        ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                        • 57559

                                                        #28
                                                        Did you pay him?

                                                        If not I don't get why you're so mad...
                                                        I'm just a newbie.

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                                                        • Cassie
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 3139

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by tranza
                                                          Did you pay him?

                                                          If not I don't get why you're so mad...

                                                          you can't be serious with this question!
                                                          ICQ: 309756847
                                                          ]

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                                                          • Pete-KT
                                                            Workin With The Devil
                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                            • 51532

                                                            #30
                                                            Ivy I icq'ed you can you please reply

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                                                            • Dalai lama
                                                              Strength and Honor
                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                              • 16540

                                                              #31
                                                              what a scam

                                                              A program you can trust.
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                                                              • Furious_Male
                                                                Doing the grind since 99
                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                • 16884

                                                                #32
                                                                Its good you were smart enough to catch it when you did.

                                                                I am just an affiliate so I am not sure how this works. It appears you have his info. If it is indeed correct do you have any legal options? Or is it simply not worth chasing?
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                                                                • ChefJeff
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 1499

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Way to be on top of things... so to speak

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                                                                  • CoreAdult-Dee
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                    • 187

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Wow Ivy that sucks. Good thing is though you keep on top of things and are always checking into things when you have suspect something. Lord knows how long it would have gone on if you had not been on the ball

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                                                                    • keyboard warrior
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 1435

                                                                      #35
                                                                      i had one guy send about 3k in cc and all were fake a shit load of charge backs.
                                                                      - nothing here -

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                                                                      • andrej_NDC
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                        • 7760

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Checks are available only for US surfers and everybody with money in US have a cc in my opinion. Mostly frauders pay by checks. Now somebody will tell, that his check sales are 20%+ of his income, but fact is, check option means less cc sales and many checks are returned...

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                                                                        • PrivateIvy
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                          • 4257

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Pete-KT
                                                                          Ivy I icq'ed you can you please reply
                                                                          Hey Sorry, wasn't signed on, I'm back now



                                                                          Ivy

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                                                                          • Vanilla
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                            • 8097

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Thanks for the heads up, Ivy... that's fucked up!
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                                                                            • SinBucks
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                              • 331

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Awesome heads up! I already added the name, and email to my blacklist!

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                                                                              • hydro
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                • 4216

                                                                                #40
                                                                                man i hate all these affiliates using other people's checks and credit cards, if you have any ip's or payment info submit it to his local police and they can get it done faster than if you contacted the fbi or secret service

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                                                                                • JFK
                                                                                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 67373

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by PrivateIvy
                                                                                  Well, not sure there is anything I can do, so posting a good rant just made me feel better LOL


                                                                                  Ivy
                                                                                  Sorry to hear that Ivy............ But I guess you feel better now

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                                                                                  • goBigtime
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                    • 7761

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by PrivateIvy
                                                                                    Hey, he has his home address listed on yahoo !!! LMFAO

                                                                                    Eww... bad post.

                                                                                    My attorney would freak the fuck out

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                                                                                    • TheDoc
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 13827

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Here are some others to make sure you don't have... All credit card fraud

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                                                                                      • PrivateIvy
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                        • 4257

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by CoreAdult-Dee
                                                                                        Wow Ivy that sucks. Good thing is though you keep on top of things and are always checking into things when you have suspect something. Lord knows how long it would have gone on if you had not been on the ball

                                                                                        thanks girl!! Yea...that's a scary thought


                                                                                        Ivy

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                                                                                        • PrivateIvy
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                          • 4257

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by goBigtime
                                                                                          Eww... bad post.

                                                                                          My attorney would freak the fuck out

                                                                                          Not really since it is public information available on yahoo :-



                                                                                          Ivy

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                                                                                          • iBanker
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                                            • 2758

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Yeah, checks can be problematic like that. Here is how we solved it:

                                                                                            We process through WTS and EC. I was noticing more of sufer abuse, than affiliate abuse. Surfers were signing up WITH checks and info like email address:

                                                                                            asddfghjk [email protected]

                                                                                            Now I think we all know this can't be a valid email address, Right? Well, I had to explain to the guys at another check processor that an email address cant have a space in it, nor is ".ccc" a properending. After about 5 minutes of arguing with her, she informed me that I was prolly wrong, and "this kind of thing happens". I then asked her to look up the name of that person signing up. Here is is:

                                                                                            adsf8d oi (or something to that effect)

                                                                                            Nice scrubbing you sons of bitches. I won the argument, switched the Check Processing, and now require a return email. Sales stayed about the same and I eliminated about 95% of the crap signups.
                                                                                            www.JasonandAlex.com
                                                                                            Christopher's ICQ: 268-843-170

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                                                                                            • Doctor Dre
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 51692

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by PrivateIvy
                                                                                              Alright, Spill it.....


                                                                                              Ivy
                                                                                              I dunno ... just reminds me something but I can't really tell what exactly ... I heard it b4
                                                                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                              • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                • 51692

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Somebody left him a nice message on his answering machine
                                                                                                Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                • PrivateIvy
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                  • 4257

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                                  Somebody left him a nice message on his answering machine

                                                                                                  WOOT !!!

                                                                                                  Goody, Goody .... my evil horns are starting to show now

                                                                                                  hehehe


                                                                                                  Ivy

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                                                                                                  • goBigtime
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                                    • 7761

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by PrivateIvy
                                                                                                    Not really since it is public information available on yahoo :-

                                                                                                    Ivy
                                                                                                    No really. He would.

                                                                                                    Especially if I linked to the guys site in this thread (that he might stumble upon in his ref logs).

                                                                                                    Anyway, just trying to offer a friendly suggestion to CYA during rants where you are being recorded forever.

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