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kmanrox · 01-27-2005, 09:21 AM

It would behoove you to worry about your members and not just your webmasters. I've signed up (as a surfer) to 2 paysites yesterday, both sites are part of large programs and BOTH members areas were fucked. On one, the 'bonus' sites links didnt work. I notified the owner of the BIG program, still not fixed. The other one while trying to get to the members area a big ass page for Zend Optimizer comes up saying it isnt installed properly... WTF is wrong with you ppl? I bet you wonder why your conversions and retention suck. Attention to detail is crucial. When you run an affiliate program you must cover ALL bases, it's not entirely about getting ppl to join up. That's only half the battle.

andrej_NDC · 01-27-2005, 10:52 AM

Im not surprised.

homegrownmof · 01-27-2005, 11:09 AM

K-Man,

what is your email,

or mail me at moffitt at homegrownvideo dotcom

justsexxx · 01-27-2005, 11:15 AM

www.youngporn.net makes you happy

so does www.mashaworld.com for example

Donny · 01-27-2005, 11:21 AM

Kman - Nice post!

People wonder how a program can have 150 sites all at once and have enough content for all of them to make them worth sticking around. Kman's post gives you a clue how that happens people! That's why I send traffic only to sites that I know give a shit. Sites such as Karups and ATK.

If you were at Phoenix Forum you may have hear ATK CEO Kim Nielsen say they spend $2 million a year on content. Guess what? They only have 4 pay sites. That's a shit load of content per site to keep members happy. And Karups offers similar massive content updates as well. Others can learn a lot from such companies as these.

Fletch XXX · 01-27-2005, 11:24 AM

ive had access to more than 5 pay sites per week for over 2 years.

most paysites are totaly shit inside.

Shap · 01-27-2005, 11:38 AM

Hey Kman. What's up dude? You can be sure you won't see any of that shit on Twistys.

BIGTYMER · 01-27-2005, 12:07 PM

Our members areas are top notch.

hydro · 01-27-2005, 12:23 PM

I guess the programs can't really afford it when affiliates are so demanding and expect bonuses just for promoting the program.

Dalai lama · 01-27-2005, 12:26 PM

Not surprised at all Kman, did you signup at any of the adultplatinum.com sites?

Aslong they pay right, btw that's why you always should ask for access to the memberareas before promoting a revshare sponsor

enter » · 01-27-2005, 12:32 PM

I'm a member of one of the big mega movie sites and it's a joke. They do have a ton of video sites you can access but some contain maybe 10 videos and the really bad part is they have for example, 5 asian sites and each one has the same 3 or 4 clips and then a few different ones. It's a rip.

The other thing is they all say "Weekly Updates" in the headers and then under it you see.. Last Update : June 6, 2004. What's the point?

CoreAdult-Dee · 01-27-2005, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox

It would behoove you to worry about your members and not just your webmasters. I've signed up (as a surfer) to 2 paysites yesterday, both sites are part of large programs and BOTH members areas were fucked. On one, the 'bonus' sites links didnt work. I notified the owner of the BIG program, still not fixed. The other one while trying to get to the members area a big ass page for Zend Optimizer comes up saying it isnt installed properly... WTF is wrong with you ppl? I bet you wonder why your conversions and retention suck. Attention to detail is crucial. When you run an affiliate program you must cover ALL bases, it's not entirely about getting ppl to join up. That's only half the battle.

I have to agree with you. Part of the problem I believe is sponsors being so swamped with so many projects that things like Quality Control get pushed to the side for more pressing projects. Hell, some websites go down for hours or even entire weekends and program owners are not aware of it until they walk in Monday morning.
You enter some members and images are not loading, links are broken, movies cut off before the end etc. Even small things like spelling and grammar mistakes are overlooked.
There are some program owners though that are finally understanding this. They are coming to us to QA their members areas, tours and galleries. We see very few problems on some sites, and others have a ton of corrections that need to be made.

enter » · 01-27-2005, 01:01 PM

I just remembered another one that I will mention the name. Last month all Hustler video updates were done with video software that was expired so all the videos had a nag message overlaid on them saying they needed to buy the software. I haven't checked back this month to see if they fixed it but how do they do a whole set of updates across a dozen or so of their plugins without seeing the mistake.

KarupLou · 01-29-2005, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Kman - Nice post!

People wonder how a program can have 150 sites all at once and have enough content for all of them to make them worth sticking around. Kman's post gives you a clue how that happens people! That's why I send traffic only to sites that I know give a shit. Sites such as Karups and ATK.

If you were at Phoenix Forum you may have hear ATK CEO Kim Nielsen say they spend $2 million a year on content. Guess what? They only have 4 pay sites. That's a shit load of content per site to keep members happy. And Karups offers similar massive content updates as well. Others can learn a lot from such companies as these.

Thanks Donny! We have 3 sites total and spend a ton of money on content each year. Thats one of the main reasons why only 1/5 of our total revenues has to go towards affiliate payouts. All the rest remains with us

DarkJedi · 01-29-2005, 05:22 PM

99% of "Big Paysites" is crap.

nikki99 · 01-29-2005, 05:29 PM

this is so bad ... members area should all be nice, people get mad to see they waste money for nothing and they maybe never signup again another site ...

we all should get worry about have nice members area for the good way of this biz

Rui · 01-29-2005, 05:36 PM

Sadly this seems the norm...

Many paysites are worse than TGP's...

lagwagon · 01-29-2005, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

Sadly this seems the norm...

Many paysites are worse than TGP's...

now this is very true.

BV · 01-29-2005, 06:09 PM

what bonus sites were they kman? you mean like plugins?

hentaivip · 01-29-2005, 06:16 PM

yes I think so

baddog · 01-29-2005, 06:16 PM

No broken links

Wizzo · 01-29-2005, 06:20 PM

Maybe that's why Porn DVD Dollars does so well... because the tour of
Porn DVD Direct is also the member area... So they know what they are getting!

Any active affiliates that want a password just hit your account mgr. up!

B-Eazy · 01-29-2005, 06:45 PM

Sounds good to me.

DEA - banned for life · 01-29-2005, 06:49 PM

lol payiste..tpgs...freebies...just jerk it and be happy

polish_aristocrat · 01-29-2005, 06:51 PM

Naughty America content is very good

Doctor Dre · 01-29-2005, 07:00 PM

I never promote a site without signing up first .

ProjectNaked · 01-29-2005, 07:23 PM

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andrej_NDC · 01-29-2005, 07:27 PM

this thread turned into spam thread

ProjectNaked · 01-29-2005, 07:27 PM

a1ka1ine · 01-29-2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

That's why I send traffic only to sites that I know give a shit. Sites such as Karups and ATK.

If you were at Phoenix Forum you may have hear ATK CEO Kim Nielsen say they spend $2 million a year on content. Guess what? They only have 4 pay sites. That's a shit load of content per site to keep members happy. And Karups offers similar massive content updates as well. Others can learn a lot from such companies as these.

great example, they sure focus on quality.

ATKCash · 02-03-2005, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarupLou

Thanks Donny! We have 3 sites total and spend a ton of money on content each year. Thats one of the main reasons why only 1/5 of our total revenues has to go towards affiliate payouts. All the rest remains with us

Ditto

QuaWee · 02-03-2005, 03:36 PM

thats one of the main reasons i go PPS instead of reccuring if I did not by a trial to the site

Relish XXX · 02-03-2005, 03:40 PM

That is why we have found it easier running a video on demand set up. The surfer can see what they are going to get before paying.

Our convertion ratio is stupidily good. Approx 1 in 50 with an average spend of $60.

01-27-2005, 09:21 AM	#1
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	Big Paysite Owners It would behoove you to worry about your members and not just your webmasters. I've signed up (as a surfer) to 2 paysites yesterday, both sites are part of large programs and BOTH members areas were fucked. On one, the 'bonus' sites links didnt work. I notified the owner of the BIG program, still not fixed. The other one while trying to get to the members area a big ass page for Zend Optimizer comes up saying it isnt installed properly... WTF is wrong with you ppl? I bet you wonder why your conversions and retention suck. Attention to detail is crucial. When you run an affiliate program you must cover ALL bases, it's not entirely about getting ppl to join up. That's only half the battle. __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

01-27-2005, 11:09 AM	#3
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01-27-2005, 11:15 AM	#4
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01-27-2005, 11:24 AM	#6
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01-27-2005, 12:26 PM	#10
Dalai lama Strength and Honor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 16,540	Not surprised at all Kman, did you signup at any of the adultplatinum.com sites? Aslong they pay right, btw that's why you always should ask for access to the memberareas before promoting a revshare sponsor __________________ A program you can trust. Gallerybooster Run multiply TGPs of 1 script Last edited by Dalai lama; 01-27-2005 at 12:28 PM..

01-27-2005, 10:52 AM	#2
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	Im not surprised.

01-27-2005, 11:21 AM	#5
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	Kman - Nice post! People wonder how a program can have 150 sites all at once and have enough content for all of them to make them worth sticking around. Kman's post gives you a clue how that happens people! That's why I send traffic only to sites that I know give a shit. Sites such as Karups and ATK. If you were at Phoenix Forum you may have hear ATK CEO Kim Nielsen say they spend $2 million a year on content. Guess what? They only have 4 pay sites. That's a shit load of content per site to keep members happy. And Karups offers similar massive content updates as well. Others can learn a lot from such companies as these.

01-27-2005, 11:38 AM	#7
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Hey Kman. What's up dude? You can be sure you won't see any of that shit on Twistys.

01-27-2005, 12:07 PM	#8
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Our members areas are top notch.

01-27-2005, 12:23 PM	#9
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	I guess the programs can't really afford it when affiliates are so demanding and expect bonuses just for promoting the program.

01-27-2005, 12:32 PM	#11
enter » Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: -- arizona --» Posts: 2,362	I'm a member of one of the big mega movie sites and it's a joke. They do have a ton of video sites you can access but some contain maybe 10 videos and the really bad part is they have for example, 5 asian sites and each one has the same 3 or 4 clips and then a few different ones. It's a rip. The other thing is they all say "Weekly Updates" in the headers and then under it you see.. Last Update : June 6, 2004. What's the point? __________________ «-- offer extended through New Years (icq286487452)

01-27-2005, 01:01 PM	#13
enter » Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: -- arizona --» Posts: 2,362	I just remembered another one that I will mention the name. Last month all Hustler video updates were done with video software that was expired so all the videos had a nag message overlaid on them saying they needed to buy the software. I haven't checked back this month to see if they fixed it but how do they do a whole set of updates across a dozen or so of their plugins without seeing the mistake. __________________ «-- offer extended through New Years (icq286487452)

01-29-2005, 05:22 PM	#15
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	99% of "Big Paysites" is crap.

01-29-2005, 05:29 PM	#16
nikki99 Supermodel Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sodoma & Gomorra Posts: 22,893	this is so bad ... members area should all be nice, people get mad to see they waste money for nothing and they maybe never signup again another site ... we all should get worry about have nice members area for the good way of this biz __________________ SMC Revenue - Best Tgirl websites of the world now VR Non exclusive BIG Tranny/shemale Package for sale, full 2257 - hit me up skype: nikkimontero

01-29-2005, 05:36 PM	#17
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Sadly this seems the norm... Many paysites are worse than TGP's...

01-29-2005, 06:09 PM	#19
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	what bonus sites were they kman? you mean like plugins?

01-29-2005, 06:16 PM	#20
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01-29-2005, 06:16 PM	#21
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01-29-2005, 06:20 PM	#22
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Maybe that's why Porn DVD Dollars does so well... because the tour of Porn DVD Direct is also the member area... So they know what they are getting! Any active affiliates that want a password just hit your account mgr. up! __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

01-29-2005, 06:45 PM	#23
B-Eazy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,521	Sounds good to me. __________________

01-29-2005, 06:49 PM	#24
DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	lol payiste..tpgs...freebies...just jerk it and be happy

01-29-2005, 06:51 PM	#25
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01-29-2005, 07:23 PM	#27
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01-29-2005, 07:27 PM	#28
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	this thread turned into spam thread

02-03-2005, 03:36 PM	#32
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02-03-2005, 03:40 PM	#33
Relish XXX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: www.adultlabel.com Posts: 4,904	That is why we have found it easier running a video on demand set up. The surfer can see what they are going to get before paying. Our convertion ratio is stupidily good. Approx 1 in 50 with an average spend of $60. __________________