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Old 02-02-2005, 12:08 PM   #1
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Why are people so concerned with board "spam?"

Why do people find the need to care if a program tells you they updated their site?

Why do people care if a sale's rep contacts you about a new deal?

Why don't people want to know what is going on?

Are people intimidated that the "would you hit it" threads will find the slums of page 2?

I am not talking board owners either. General posters.

I want personal accounts of why people find the need to be bothered. Personal experiences of how these things have contributed to decimating your life.
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Old 02-02-2005, 12:09 PM   #2
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Simple..... they are nothing but "Simpletons"

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Old 02-02-2005, 12:11 PM   #3
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Simple..... they are nothing but "Simpletons"

Word.
I am about to start 10 fashion threads. Lets see what they have to say about that!
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Old 02-02-2005, 12:15 PM   #4
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If you let the spam flow free this board would be useless. It would be 98% spam threads.

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Old 02-02-2005, 12:17 PM   #5
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If you let the spam flow free this board would be useless. It would be 98% spam threads.

I don't disagree with you but, the "as opposed to what" comes to mind for me.....

...catch my drift?
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Old 02-02-2005, 12:18 PM   #6
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If you let the spam flow free this board would be useless. It would be 98% spam threads.

true. i feel the same way.
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Old 02-02-2005, 12:18 PM   #7
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cuz Board SPAM is wack! It makes the board really unappealing if there is nothing but spam
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See Cory, back in GFY's days, the rule of the land was "announcements only by established webmasters"... nowadays no cows gives a mooh about it anymore.
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It makes people feel important when they call out "spam". It's the same reason people post timeline pics, tell you that your news article has already been posted 2 times in the past or post about how much money they made today. It makes people feel bigger. Some people grasp at anything to really "stand out" on this board. I suppose it is because there are so many people here and so many things going on at one time. Basically, it's a cry for attention. Ofcourse that's my opinion and you know what they say about those...
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If you let the spam flow free this board would be useless. It would be 98% spam threads.

He's talking about the board USERS, not admins.

Read the fucking title. The users don't make the rules here
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You know I was thinking that today, isn't part of posting on the board, is to get some business as well as getting to know people in the industry. I know I want to know about changes to programs I do business with and I like to look at replies to it.
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It makes people feel important when they call out "spam". It's the same reason people post timeline pics, tell you that your news article has already been posted 2 times in the past or post about how much money they made today. It makes people feel bigger. Some people grasp at anything to really "stand out" on this board. I suppose it is because there are so many people here and so many things going on at one time. Basically, it's a cry for attention. Ofcourse that's my opinion and you know what they say about those...
Wow. You expanded and I agree wholeheartedly.

I am glad to see that my logic is not lost on everyone.

Read 5 spam threads a day or 5 drama threads? Which has the potential to make you more money?

Why are we here?
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Old 02-02-2005, 12:24 PM   #15
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You know I was thinking that today, isn't part of posting on the board, is to get some business as well as getting to know people in the industry. I know I want to know about changes to programs I do business with and I like to look at replies to it.
So you can read?

You want to learn?

I am starting to understand my own logic now

Glad my thoughts seem not lost on everyone.

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I like to be spammed per se , lets me know what new with the programs and such
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Old 02-02-2005, 12:26 PM   #17
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If you let the spam flow free this board would be useless. It would be 98% spam threads.
Not calling you out. Just starting a topic...

What is the 98% filled with now?

Again, this isn't from the board owner perspective, obvious logic exist there...I am remarking on the constant "spam" post in others threads...that is the difference...
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I agree that sometimes it is great to know everything that's going on, but sometimes people take it too far and then the board is contentless.

I personally enjoy clicking on promotions, just to see what they are and such.
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I like to be spammed per se , lets me know what new with the programs and such
Haha...me too.

Man, I used to get 10 media tickets mailers a day plus a phone call and I never once called them out or even remarked in the bashing threads!

They were a bit much, no doubt. But damn, why pounce on a sale's rep for emailing you or posting a thread?

No one has to click on it!
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Wow. You expanded and I agree wholeheartedly.

I am glad to see that my logic is not lost on everyone.

Read 5 spam threads a day or 5 drama threads? Which has the potential to make you more money?

Why are we here?
Well you have to consider the audience and what this board is truly trying to accomplish with it's existence. Sure it sounds great to say this is a business board but the reality is that it makes the owner cash money and that is the #1 priority. Page views = cash from advertisers. Real business gets boring to surfers. They would much rather see huge tits or listen in on 2 guys having a shit fit over something and creating drama. That's why you don't see too many surfers over in "Traffic trades and Gallery requests"
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Program notices do not bother me, I read them for the most part, however, cory, I have yet to see you come through on your promise of all these fashion threads. Get out the pink dog, dammit.
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I amazes me as well Cory.

We are here to be involved in this industry and to make money through it.

Yet so many panic at every instance of an announcement, most having to do with efforts from the announcing company to make affiliates more money!

I hear the same gripes when it comes to discussions of exit consoles... webmasters who work countless hours to earn a living despise consoles, which directly help them and others to earn a living.

It's as if their personal preferences are more important to them.
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fucking idiot spammers.

if you were someone in the industry or if you had more than 12 iq points you wouldn't need to do something sooo fucking stupid and simple as a spam announcement on a message board.

grow a fucking BRAIN.


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basically they all feel that they are too good to have to hear you. they think they are eleet and shouldnt be bothered with new exciting business offers.

sucks. imagine the money that could be made if people took two seconds to analyze a new opportunity.


case in point, two posts up. perfect timing to prove my point.

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Why do people find the need to care if a program tells you they updated their site?

Why do people care if a sale's rep contacts you about a new deal?

Why don't people want to know what is going on?

Are people intimidated that the "would you hit it" threads will find the slums of page 2?

I am not talking board owners either. General posters.

I want personal accounts of why people find the need to be bothered. Personal experiences of how these things have contributed to decimating your life.
maybe because there are hundreds of affiliate programs nowadays and if most of them would post on GFY about evey new site they launched, this board would become completely worthless......
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I amazes me as well Cory.

We are here to be involved in this industry and to make money through it.

Yet so many panic at every instance of an announcement, most having to do with efforts from the announcing company to make affiliates more money!

I hear the same gripes when it comes to discussions of exit consoles... webmasters who work countless hours to earn a living despise consoles, which directly help them and others to earn a living.

It's as if their personal preferences are more important to them.
Now there is some spam I could truly do without and that is the mindless outsourcing spam. I understand they are trying to make a living aswell but when they use the same copied and pasted line every single time they respond to a thread, that drives me crazy.

"Sure we can help you with that. Hit me up and one of our designers can bla bla bla..."

I fully agree with what you're saying though. It's like people don't want to hear about something new that could possibly be a lucrative money maker for them. It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face. They are so blinded by being ready to make the "SPAM!!!" reply that they have missed what could have been a great opportunity for them.
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fucking idiot spammers.

if you were someone in the industry or if you had more than 12 iq points you wouldn't need to do something sooo fucking stupid and simple as a spam announcement on a message board.

grow a fucking BRAIN.


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I think what Cory is talking about is more along the lines of program announcements and such. Mindless spam is another animal all together. Just popping in and saying, "Hey guys, have you heard about this new girl, Mindy Melons? She is so hot and has a new program coming out..." <- and that is there first post ever. Those I can live without.

Program announcements I don't mind.
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In the beginning the boards were created
And the boards were without form and void
And the porn gods said "let there be webmasters"
And webmasters came. All at first saw the light.
It was good.

In time webmasters spammed
And spammed and spammed and spammed
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And then the porn gods became angry

The path of the righteous man became beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil spammers.

Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of spam darkness.

For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.

And the gods will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy his brothers with advertisements.

And you will know he is the Lord when you are banned.
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maybe because there are hundreds of affiliate programs nowadays and if most of them would post on GFY about evey new site they launched, this board would become completely worthless......
Worthless when compared to...

...would you hit it threads? Or I made XX dollars this week? Or I can't stand so & so, I am gonna kick their ass? Or check out this pic of me at taco bell the other day?

Would you hit it threads don't have the capability of making me richer. Program announcements do...

But like I said. This is only my opinion.
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I think what Cory is talking about is more along the lines of program announcements and such. Mindless spam is another animal all together. Just popping in and saying, "Hey guys, have you heard about this new girl, Mindy Melons? She is so hot and has a new program coming out..." <- and that is there first post ever. Those I can live without.

Program announcements I don't mind.
There would be less advertisers. I wouldn't advertise if I could make announcements.
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Why do people find the need to care if a program tells you they updated their site?

Why do people care if a sale's rep contacts you about a new deal?

Why don't people want to know what is going on?

Are people intimidated that the "would you hit it" threads will find the slums of page 2?

I am not talking board owners either. General posters.

I want personal accounts of why people find the need to be bothered. Personal experiences of how these things have contributed to decimating your life.
Its not fair to the sponsors of the board, If thats the case why pay to be a sponsor
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Right but I think that goes back to Cory's original question where fellow webmasters/surfers take it upon themselves to freak out over the spam. If it's unfair to the sponsors that do pay then they should take up issue with the board management and the spam should me moderated out.

I am a new guy to this biz though so I am sure I don't understand how everything ticks.
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Its not fair to the sponsors of the board, If thats the case why pay to be a sponsor
Life isn't supposed to be fair. Also, advertisers pay for continued exposure on a board, not just for the chance to make announcements every now and again.

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Right but I think that goes back to Cory's original question where fellow webmasters/surfers take it upon themselves to freak out over the spam. If it's unfair to the sponsors that do pay then they should take up issue with the board management and the spam should me moderated out.

I am a new guy to this biz though so I am sure I don't understand how everything ticks.
Exactly.

No one is questioning "advertisers" or "Lens" having an issue
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Old 02-02-2005, 02:28 PM   #40
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Life isn't supposed to be fair. Also, advertisers pay for continued exposure on a board, not just for the chance to make announcements every now and again.

Oh, and big sigs.. advertisers get to fly big sigs
There you go.

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Program notices do not bother me, I read them for the most part, however, cory, I have yet to see you come through on your promise of all these fashion threads. Get out the pink dog, dammit.
Lens denied my request for a fashion forum. Eric was even going to moderate.

Send him hate mail.
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I amazes me as well Cory.



I hear the same gripes when it comes to discussions of exit consoles... webmasters who work countless hours to earn a living despise consoles, which directly help them and others to earn a living.

It's as if their personal preferences are more important to them.
Too many are clueless...
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Anyone who doesn't want to hear what a company like WEG is up to is an asshole and not very bright.
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I agree. What is wrong with a content producer to offer up a few pics of a new model asking if people want sets of her. Spam? I say its business, not spam.
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Read 5 spam threads a day or 5 drama threads? Which has the potential to make you more money?

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Anyone who doesn't want to hear what a company like WEG is up to is an asshole and not very bright.
I think people do not understand that as much as boards are fun, they have the "potential" to be utilized far better....

and thanks....
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See Cory, back in GFY's days, the rule of the land was "announcements only by established webmasters"... nowadays no cows gives a mooh about it anymore.
Those were the days...
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I agree. What is wrong with a content producer to offer up a few pics of a new model asking if people want sets of her. Spam? I say its business, not spam.
I love those those threads. We buy content but to be honest, if it is not in my face I have no idea where to go for something fresh....hence my recent content threads on the boards.....
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There would be less advertisers. I wouldn't advertise if I could make announcements.
We are long time advertisers, as is Adrian and Silvercash.

You have a point no doubt, but:

1) I am talking more about webmasters taking it on themselves to be hall monitors.

2) I want to know what is going on. Now, I don't want them to be able to carry the same sig as me, have pinned threads, banner spots and things of that nature, but I do want to know if a hosting company that does not advertise here has a deal to offer. I buy hosting for myself. I want to know if content providers have new deals. I want to know if certain paysites update content. And if I do not want to know, I will not click on the thread and I will most certainly not click on the thread and make a complaint.

Admin needs to monitor things. Other webmasters need to monitor things as well. If scam artist come in to post a product update, I say let them stay and let everyone hammer them. Let the admins make judgement calls.

But people who do not advertise here themselves should not elect themselves board nobility when they themselves are of no higher stature.
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Wow. You expanded and I agree wholeheartedly.

I am glad to see that my logic is not lost on everyone.

Read 5 spam threads a day or 5 drama threads? Which has the potential to make you more money?

Why are we here?
I ask myself this all the time.

sometimes i get bored and need some drama and sometimes I want to see whats going on in the biz.

I have posted this in the past and the 2 should be seperated but it might take the apeal away from the newbie's who run it
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