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Old 11-17-2001, 01:19 PM   #1
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Old 11-17-2001, 02:49 PM   #2
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Old 11-17-2001, 03:13 PM   #3
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Old 11-17-2001, 03:54 PM   #4
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Let me know what other places say and i will let you know if i can beat there deals

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Old 11-17-2001, 06:04 PM   #5
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Hi,

Please feel free to hit me up on ICQ 17021242. I'll see if I can match or beat anyone's prices while offering better support and quality.

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Old 11-17-2001, 06:17 PM   #6
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Please feel free to hit me up on ICQ 17021242. I'll see if I can match or beat anyone's prices while offering better support and quality.

Thanks,
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i'm sure you can with cogentco.com bandwidth =]
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Old 11-17-2001, 06:45 PM   #7
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i'm sure you can with cogentco.com bandwidth =]
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Old 11-17-2001, 06:58 PM   #8
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Hi,

What is the diference between cogentco.com bandwidth and other bandwidth?
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Old 11-17-2001, 07:10 PM   #9
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What is the diference between cogentco.com bandwidth and other bandwidth?

Cogent bandwidth is MUCH cheaper and somewhat worse than bandwidth from other providers like UUnet or Level 3.

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Old 11-17-2001, 08:14 PM   #10
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do yourself a favor and send an email to davidd @ candidhosting.com - he'll definitely be able to hook you up. tell him ultra referred you.
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Old 11-17-2001, 08:22 PM   #11
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Old 11-17-2001, 10:22 PM   #12
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How is Cogent bandwidth worse? They buy transit from AboveNet, and supposedly peer with a large amount of Tier 2/3 ISPs. It's basically like buying AboveNet transit, which I don't see much of a problem with.
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Old 11-17-2001, 10:32 PM   #13
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I can hook you up nice on exodus bandwidth.
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Old 11-18-2001, 05:17 AM   #14
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with Cogent bandwidth. We've had not a single customer move from us because of slowness or anything of that sort.

Btw Whoreans, people who sit in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Exodus isn't that much better considering that they're in chapter 11 and their stocks will be worthless regardless of the outcome of the chapter 11 I hope you've already shopped around for a new backbone provider. I can hook you up with a Cogent rep, if you want

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Old 11-18-2001, 05:39 AM   #15
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Old 11-18-2001, 07:21 AM   #16
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How is Cogent bandwidth worse? They buy transit from AboveNet, and supposedly peer with a large amount of Tier 2/3 ISPs. It's basically like buying AboveNet transit, which I don't see much of a problem with.
You say it yourself; if they buy transit from AboveNet, how on earth can they be THAT HUGE AMOUNT cheaper than AboveNet then?!?! you should see that something is too good to be true here
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Old 11-18-2001, 07:26 AM   #17
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and even IF it's true, then they are making huge losses on those sales, which means financially it's not a healthy company, which means it's very stupid to rely on it... just my .02
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Old 11-18-2001, 11:42 AM   #18
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Cogent:
Doesn't have a Global Network.
No peering arrangments worth talking about cept almost bankrupt Above.net

Compare to Verio's backbone:
Global Network
Private peering arrangments with @home, ATT, Sprint, MCI and every major Tier 1 Backbone.
IP only Network.
Verio hosts probably 20% of the nets most trafficed adult sites.

Try running Pingplotter against any site hosted on Cogent during peak times..200-400MS.. really slow

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Old 11-18-2001, 01:15 PM   #19
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Buy enough fiber and MFN will possibly cut you a deal on bandwidth, (see: http://www.cogentco.com/News/news_030100_2.html), and colocation (see: http://www.cogentco.com/News/news_111300.htm)...light about 160 million square feet of commercial office (http://www.cogentco.com/News/news_052201.htm) at some decent-to-ridiculous square foot rate, merge with another company (Allied Riser) who has been providing fiber to commercial office space (approximately 150-200 million square feet) for years (http://www.cogentco.com/News/news_082901.htm), and grab the customers, peering relationships, and other assets of a tier 1 ISP filing for bankruptcy (http://www.cogentco.com/News/news_091001.htm), and not turn a profit?
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Old 11-18-2001, 01:16 PM   #20
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Compare to Verio's backbone ...

Try running Pingplotter against any site hosted on Cogent during peak times..200-400MS.. really slow


Cogent is not the best network, that has already been established but verio is not nearly the best network and do have their share of financial problems.

You should be able to get less than 20 ms ping to properly setup server on the cogent network from a verio server, you should try it.

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Old 11-18-2001, 03:03 PM   #21
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Cogent:
Doesn't have a Global Network.
No peering arrangments worth talking about cept almost bankrupt Above.net

Compare to Verio's backbone:
Global Network
Private peering arrangments with @home, ATT, Sprint, MCI and every major Tier 1 Backbone.
IP only Network.
Verio hosts probably 20% of the nets most trafficed adult sites.

Try running Pingplotter against any site hosted on Cogent during peak times..200-400MS.. really slow

You can drive the Ferrari or ride the bus.. it's your choice.


Please show me which network connected to Cogent has a 400ms ping from your box. You're welcome to try ours : 321host-it.com

I'll make the first step:

traceroute to thumbserver.com (128.241.79.23), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 66.28.45.1 0.590 ms 0.383 ms 0.400 ms
2 66.28.5.181 0.416 ms 0.308 ms 0.306 ms
3 66.28.4.129 24.176 ms 24.078 ms 24.116 ms
4 66.28.4.30 34.859 ms 34.733 ms 34.734 ms
5 66.28.4.34 46.397 ms 46.259 ms 46.268 ms
6 206.220.243.34 46.641 ms 46.761 ms 46.679 ms
7 129.250.3.134 46.766 ms 46.789 ms 46.844 ms
8 129.250.5.100 46.997 ms 47.018 ms 46.856 ms
9 129.250.2.6 60.034 ms 59.898 ms 59.870 ms
10 129.250.31.135 61.689 ms 61.853 ms 61.853 ms
11 204.203.3.18 73.693 ms 61.507 ms 62.538 ms
12 128.241.79.23 63.113 ms 63.979 ms 63.708 ms

Unfortunately you're on the east coast so we can't have a 20ms ping but well I guess it's okay anyway. Do you disagree?
Btw, this is peaktime.

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Old 11-18-2001, 03:37 PM   #22
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Thumbserver is not on the East coast

they are in like seattle

Now i can Verify the quality of the Verio network cuase i myself use it and have great ping times throught the network cogent will not be able to provide the same type of service

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Old 11-18-2001, 04:02 PM   #23
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Ah I thought it was Bellevue, VA not WA. Still not that bad. Traffic goes through Chicago that's why it takes longer. That seems to be caused by Verio though as a lot of Californian traffic seems to go first to Chicago before entering Verio's network.

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Just another example of a network in WA that is hosted by Verio:

traceroute to sextracker.com (207.246.136.167), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 66.28.45.1 (66.28.45.1) 1.195 ms 0.396 ms 0.564 ms
2 g0-2.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.177) 0.387 ms 0.307 ms 0.462 ms
3 f0.pao1.verio.net (198.32.176.14) 1.362 ms 1.337 ms 1.405 ms
4 p4-6-0-0.r03.sttlwa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.90) 21.718 ms 21.799 ms 21.689 ms
5 ge-1-0-0.a07.sttlwa01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.28.3) 20.180 ms 20.236 ms 20.264 ms
6 ge-6-3-0.a07.sttlwa01.us.ce.verio.net (204.203.3.37) 19.657 ms 19.546 ms 20.012 ms
7 v5-1000M.core0.sea.accretive-networks.net (207.246.155.129) 20.154 ms 20.620 ms 21.081 ms
8 sextracker.com (207.246.136.167) 19.672 ms 20.203 ms 19.724 ms

Here the traffic goes through PAIX which is of course much faster.

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Old 11-18-2001, 04:19 PM   #25
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1 mae-east.cogentco.com (198.32.187.114) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
2 p4-0.core01.phl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.18) [AS 16631] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec
3 p5-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.1) [AS 16631] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
4 p15-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.13) [AS 16631] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
5 p5-0.core01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.117) [AS 16631] 12 msec 16 msec 12 msec
6 p5-0.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.110) [AS 16631] 36 msec 32 msec 36 msec
7 p12-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.33) [AS 16631] 44 msec 44 msec 44 msec
8 p5-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.37) [AS 16631] 52 msec 56 msec 52 msec
9 g50.ba01.b000326.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.158) [AS 16631] 52 msec 56 msec 56 msec
10 svdallas.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.20.58) [AS 16631] 56 msec 52 msec 52 msec
11 66.28.26.250 [AS 16631] 56 msec 56 msec 56 msec
12 66.28.25.4 [AS 16631] 52 msec 52 msec 52 msec

1 phl2-core2-fa0-1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.51.37) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
2 dca6-core5-pos1-3.atlas.icix.net (165.117.64.101) 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec
3 dca1-core11-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.77) 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec
4 mae-east.cogentco.com (198.32.187.114) 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
5 p4-0.core01.phl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.18) [AS 16631] 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
6 p5-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.1) [AS 16631] 12 msec 16 msec 12 msec
7 p15-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.13) [AS 16631] 16 msec 12 msec 16 msec
8 p5-0.core01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.117) [AS 16631] 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec
9 p5-0.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.110) [AS 16631] 32 msec 36 msec 32 msec
10 p12-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.33) [AS 16631] 44 msec 44 msec 44 msec
11 *
p5-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.37) [AS 16631] 212 msec 204 msec
12 g50.ba01.b000326.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.158) [AS 16631] 200 msec 200 msec 200 msec
13 svdallas.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.20.58) [AS 16631] 52 msec 52 msec 56 msec
14 66.28.26.250 [AS 16631] 56 msec 56 msec 56 msec
15 66.28.25.4 [AS 16631] 52 msec 56 msec 52 msec


1 sjc2-core1-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.59.29) 4 msec
sjc2-core4-fa4-1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.50.134) 0 msec
sjc2-core1-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.59.29) 0 msec
2 sjc2-core2-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.59.33) 0 msec
sjc2-core2-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.60.122) 0 msec
sjc2-core2-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.59.33) 0 msec
3 sjc3-core4-pos6-3.atlas.icix.net (165.117.67.138) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
4 sjc3-core5-pos6-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.67.241) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
5 paix.cogentco.com (198.32.176.131) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
6 p15-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.42) [AS 16631] 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec
7 p15-0.core01.den01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.129) [AS 16631] 52 msec 48 msec 52 msec
8 p5-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.30) [AS 16631] 52 msec 52 msec 52 msec
9 p5-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.37) [AS 16631] 240 msec * 60 msec
10 g50.ba01.b000326.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.158) [AS 16631] 60 msec 60 msec 64 msec
11 svdallas.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.20.58) [AS 16631] 60 msec 64 msec 60 msec
12 66.28.26.250 [AS 16631] 64 msec 64 msec 60 msec
13 66.28.25.4 [AS 16631] 64 msec 64 msec 60 msec

1 paix.cogentco.com (198.32.176.131) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
2 p15-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.42) [AS 16631] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
3 p15-0.core01.den01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.129) [AS 16631] 24 msec 28 msec 24 msec
4 p5-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.30) [AS 16631] 36 msec 36 msec 36 msec
5 p5-0.core02.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.37) [AS 16631] 48 msec 48 msec 44 msec
6 g50.ba01.b000326.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.158) [AS 16631] 48 msec 44 msec 44 msec
7 svdallas.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.20.58) [AS 16631] 44 msec 44 msec 48 msec
8 66.28.26.250 [AS 16631] 44 msec 44 msec 48 msec
9 66.28.25.4 [AS 16631] 44 msec 44 msec 44 msec

Wow look at that direct connections with mae East, Mae West, Sprint, Paix. Now who was saying that they have no points other that Above ??? I'm not going to blow smoke up your ass, we ourselves have put in place a failover network in case the cogent pipe takes a dump, but since putting it in place we've had nothing but great pings times, and fast bandwidth since the end of July. So just because your jealous that you can't get cogent pipe where your locked into your multi-year contracts doesn't mean that you should badmouth it. Now let's take a look at your connection www.thumbserver.com


1 dca6-core5-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.78) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
2 p1-0-1.r01.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.149) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
3 p4-1-0-0.r02.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.186) [AS 2914] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
4 p16-0-0-0.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.102) [AS 2914] 28 msec 28 msec 28 msec
5 p16-2-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.70) [AS 2914] 28 msec 28 msec 28 msec
6 p16-1-0-0.r00.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.76) [AS 2914] 28 msec 24 msec 24 msec
7 p16-2-0-0.r04.sttlwa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.6) [AS 2914] 96 msec 92 msec 92 msec
8 fa-1-0-0.a03.sttlwa01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.31.135) [AS 2914] 92 msec 92 msec 88 msec
9 d3-1-0.a02.bllvwa01.us.ra.verio.net (204.203.3.18) [AS 2914] 96 msec 96 msec 92 msec
10 www.thumbserver.com (128.241.79.23) [AS 2914] 92 msec 92 msec 92 msec

1 phl2-core2-fa0-1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.51.37) 124 msec 204 msec 4 msec
2 dca6-core5-pos1-3.atlas.icix.net (165.117.64.101) 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec
3 p1-0-1.r01.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.149) 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
4 p4-1-0-0.r02.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.4.186) [AS 2914] 4 msec 8 msec 8 msec
5 p16-0-0-0.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.102) [AS 2914] 32 msec 32 msec 32 msec
6 p16-2-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.70) [AS 2914] 32 msec 32 msec 32 msec
7 p16-1-0-0.r00.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.76) [AS 2914] 32 msec 32 msec 32 msec
8 p16-2-0-0.r04.sttlwa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.6) [AS 2914] 92 msec 96 msec 92 msec
9 fa-1-0-0.a03.sttlwa01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.31.135) [AS 2914] 92 msec 92 msec 92 msec
10 d3-1-0.a02.bllvwa01.us.ra.verio.net (204.203.3.18) [AS 2914] 96 msec 96 msec 96 msec
11 www.thumbserver.com (128.241.79.23) [AS 2914] 96 msec 92 msec 96 msec


1 sjc2-core1-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.59.29) 0 msec
sjc2-core4-fa4-1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.50.134) 0 msec
sjc2-core1-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.59.29) 0 msec
2 sjc2-core2-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.59.33) 0 msec
sjc2-core2-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.60.122) 4 msec
sjc2-core2-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.59.33) 0 msec
3 sjc3-core4-pos6-3.atlas.icix.net (165.117.67.138) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
4 p1-5-6.r05.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.69) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
5 p4-5-1-0.r06.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.130) [AS 2914] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
6 p4-6-0-0.r03.sttlwa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.90) [AS 2914] 20 msec 20 msec 24 msec
7 fa-4-0-0.a03.sttlwa01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.28.6) [AS 2914] 20 msec 20 msec 24 msec
8 d3-1-0.a02.bllvwa01.us.ra.verio.net (204.203.3.18) [AS 2914] 24 msec 24 msec 24 msec
9 www.thumbserver.com (128.241.79.23) [AS 2914] 20 msec 20 msec 24 msec

1 sjc3-core4-pos6-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.67.242) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
2 p1-5-6.r05.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.69) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
3 p4-5-1-0.r06.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.130) [AS 2914] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
4 p4-6-0-0.r03.sttlwa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.90) [AS 2914] 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
5 fa-4-0-0.a03.sttlwa01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.28.6) [AS 2914] 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
6 d3-1-0.a02.bllvwa01.us.ra.verio.net (204.203.3.18) [AS 2914] 20 msec 20 msec 24 msec
7 www.thumbserver.com (128.241.79.23) [AS 2914] 24 msec 20 msec 24 msec

Looks about the same to me, taking into consideration the fact that your on the west coast, and our boxes are in the midwest. So please don't badmouth someone with no proof, it just makes you look like an ass


Tim


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Old 11-18-2001, 09:17 PM   #26
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So just because your jealous that you can't get cogent pipe where your locked into your multi-year contracts doesn't mean that you should badmouth it
Actually Cogent is very much available here and we did consider it before going gigabit with Verio. When Verio gave us their bandwidth at Cogent's price how could we pass it up?

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Old 11-18-2001, 09:26 PM   #27
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Looks about the same to me, taking into consideration the fact that your on the west coast, and our boxes are in the midwest. So please don't badmouth someone with no proof, it just makes you look like an ass
Actually the other day Cogent had 20% packet loss. I continue to monitor their network and get proof if you need to see it. When I saw that I was amazed that people would even consider their network.

$3,000 for 100/Mbps is pretty attractive I have to admit. I hope they can continue to deliver a quality network.. time will tell.
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