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Old 01-27-2005, 08:55 AM   #1
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Big new offer at Duocash

We have made some changes in senior management postions and with our recent push into mainstream business, we have decided to bring out a really big offer for the adult industry.

Starting today and continuing through March, we will be offering processing AT NO CHARGE.

In case you don't know who we are yet... Duocash has created an transaction hub on which certain pre-paid phone cards can be used to pay for services/products online. This creates an alternative payment method that allows unbanked customers, (30% of the US), and customers fearful of using credit cards online, (40% of the US), able to make payments that are completely outside the credit card systems.

We are finding that, depending on how the webmaster positions the system on their site, revenues and conversions are increased between 3% and 15% in the first 60 to 90 days.

We have now increased the distribution of Duocash-enabled cards to 20,000 locations in the US, and we are putting Duocash-enabled cards in 6,000 locations in Canada.

We are now also allowing online merchants to surcharge consumers for any or all of the DuoCash processing fee - a practice prohibited by the VISA and MasterCard bank associations. This, potentially, makes DuoCash a totally free service for online merchants.
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:58 AM   #2
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Good Deal Michael!!! Bump for you my brotha!

See ya Saturday..if you wake up..lol

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bump for a great deal!

Damn - can I qualify as adult? I can pretend to be?
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wow..nice deal there

if it is free you might as well try it out
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good deal or not what i still dont get is that duocash processes for underaged sites, im sure im not the only one who doesnt like that

http://w w w . l o v e l y - a l a z a i .com

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bump for a great deal!

Damn - can I qualify as adult? I can pretend to be?

You qualify as adult.....hit me up!
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Good Deal Michael!!! Bump for you my brotha!

See ya Saturday..if you wake up..lol

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HEY! YOU try working three shows in a row, while in the middle of moving!

A man can only party so much for god's sake!
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good deal or not what i still dont get is that duocash processes for underaged sites, im sure im not the only one who doesnt like that

http://w w w . l o v e l y - a l a z a i .com

I am a 15 year old Syrian-Italian girl. About 5' 2" tall, and 102 lbs. And I've got brown hair, and brown eyes
pretty uncool to bump other posts to get mine unnoticed imho
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Good stuff as always from Duocash!!
PROCESSING FOR UNDERAGED GIRLS - are you guys blind or what ?
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pretty uncool to bump other posts to get mine unnoticed imho

We are reviewing what sites we will process. Although I understand your adversion to those sites, they ARE legal... Also, I hope that you understand that the ONLY reason that the all of the third party processor of credit cards (and I do mean ALL), stopped processing for those sites was that VISA FORCED them to. Just as adult webmaster that dress up their models in order to make them appear underaged, while performing graphic sex acts, don't want to be judged, by the same token, a non-nude site that is deemed legal by the courts also must be given consideration.

I don't like it, personally, but then there are LOTS of sites/niches, etc....that I don't personally like, or think should be allowed. I don't make the rules, however.
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Sperber and the rest of the Duocash group are good people.

You can't go wrong working with these guys.
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Are there any adult sites currently taking transaction with Duocash?

I would like to check it out.

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We are reviewing what sites we will process. Although I understand your adversion to those sites, they ARE legal... Also, I hope that you understand that the ONLY reason that the all of the third party processor of credit cards (and I do mean ALL), stopped processing for those sites was that VISA FORCED them to. Just as adult webmaster that dress up their models in order to make them appear underaged, while performing graphic sex acts, don't want to be judged, by the same token, a non-nude site that is deemed legal by the courts also must be given consideration.

I don't like it, personally, but then there are LOTS of sites/niches, etc....that I don't personally like, or think should be allowed. I don't make the rules, however.
they are legal yes true, ive seen lotsa of sites with underaged girls (esp german) processing duocash. I just dont like the whole shady - oh you can process with duocash when all other decline - idea.

we do 99% nonnude, all 18+ all 2257, like ccbill requires, docs, model releases everything, i dont wanna be mentioned in the same sentenced with a 10yo russian girl showing on the web. Im pretty sure if VISA finds these sites and looks a bit more thouroughly theyll suspend, just like they almost did with verotel.
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Great stuff, Mike.

An already attractive alternative billing solution becomes IRRESISTIBLE.

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they are legal yes true, ive seen lotsa of sites with underaged girls (esp german) processing duocash. I just dont like the whole shady - oh you can process with duocash when all other decline - idea.

we do 99% nonnude, all 18+ all 2257, like ccbill requires, docs, model releases everything, i dont wanna be mentioned in the same sentenced with a 10yo russian girl showing on the web. Im pretty sure if VISA finds these sites and looks a bit more thouroughly theyll suspend, just like they almost did with verotel.
The Duocash system does not utilize the credit card systems at all, and is therefore not subject to their regulation.

If you have been processing with ccbill for more than a year and a half, then you WERE processing along with non-nude underage sites, as I said above. VISA forced them to stop, it was not ccbills idea. (Don't get me wrong here...ccbill is a GREAT company and I encourage everyone to do business with them).

Do you also object to sites the make it APPEAR that the models are under 18, while having them perform graphic acts? If so, you had probably better get your own merchant account.

On another note, iwhen VISA decides to cut off all adult processing, you may find yoursefl objecting to THEIR judgements.
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they are legal yes true, ive seen lotsa of sites with underaged girls (esp german) processing duocash. I just dont like the whole shady - oh you can process with duocash when all other decline - idea.

we do 99% nonnude, all 18+ all 2257, like ccbill requires, docs, model releases everything, i dont wanna be mentioned in the same sentenced with a 10yo russian girl showing on the web. Im pretty sure if VISA finds these sites and looks a bit more thouroughly theyll suspend, just like they almost did with verotel.
ouchhh was looking into give a go at this offer but after reading that
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The Duocash system does not utilize the credit card systems at all, and is therefore not subject to their regulation.

If you have been processing with ccbill for more than a year and a half, then you WERE processing along with non-nude underage sites, as I said above. VISA forced them to stop, it was not ccbills idea. (Don't get me wrong here...ccbill is a GREAT company and I encourage everyone to do business with them).

Do you also object to sites the make it APPEAR that the models are under 18, while having them perform graphic acts? If so, you had probably better get your own merchant account.

On another note, iwhen VISA decides to cut off all adult processing, you may find yoursefl objecting to THEIR judgements.
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The Duocash system does not utilize the credit card systems at all, and is therefore not subject to their regulation.

If you have been processing with ccbill for more than a year and a half, then you WERE processing along with non-nude underage sites, as I said above. VISA forced them to stop, it was not ccbills idea. (Don't get me wrong here...ccbill is a GREAT company and I encourage everyone to do business with them).

Do you also object to sites the make it APPEAR that the models are under 18, while having them perform graphic acts? If so, you had probably better get your own merchant account.

On another note, iwhen VISA decides to cut off all adult processing, you may find yoursefl objecting to THEIR judgements.

ccbill compl dept requires sites with girls who look 18+, ask corvett he will confirm if a site looks underaged theyll suspend it

anyhow enough bout this, im sure there are ppl who dont mind you guys process for underaged
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Michael,

Is your payment method integrated to work with most popular program back ends out there? How about with Jumbo (Jettis system).

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HEY! YOU try working three shows in a row, while in the middle of moving!

A man can only party so much for god's sake!
It's hard for me to believe that you actually typed this.
You are the teflon party man...bull-riding events aside. LOL

Great offer, btw. I'll be hitting you up this afternoon to discuss.
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Is your payment method integrated to work with most popular program back ends out there? How about with Jumbo (Jettis system).

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Not yet, but we are talking to several of them right now. You are welcome to push them from your end if you'd like!!
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Where can end users pick up the cards and are they easily rechargable?
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Where can end users pick up the cards and are they easily rechargable?

We have a store locator that you can link to. Like I said, we have 20,000 locations in the US and will soon have 6,000 in Canadal

Unfortunately, our staff has been so fricken busy with new implimentations, and there have been so many locations added recently, that we have fallen WAY behind on updating the store locator. Stay tuned over the next month or so.... :-)

The cards are not rechargable as of yet, but recharging the cards would most likely require a credit card. This system is aimed at the people that won't, or can't use credit cards online, so we aren't moving very quickly on this
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You are the teflon party man...bull-riding events aside. LOL

Great offer, btw. I'll be hitting you up this afternoon to discuss.
Thanks......I'll talk to you then. Remember though, I had Internext, then CES in Vegas, then moving, then the idate2005 show in Miami, and the ETA annual meeting in Orlando tomorrow...




and.....HEY! You said you wouldn't mention those bruises on my thighs!
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Michael is brilliant in the world of processing.....this sounds like a great deal! Everyone should check this out as a viable option.
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Michael is brilliant in the world of processing.....this sounds like a great deal! Everyone should check this out as a viable option.

WOW.


(ok...... so how much do you want? I'll send a check)
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1) Can the charges convert from a trial to a full monthly?
2) Can the charges recur from month to month?
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2) Can the charges recur from month to month?
1. yes, the charges can convert from trial to monthly.

2. Yes, you can set up reocurring charges until the value on that particular card runs out. The average value card that peopel buy comes out to $57
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Old 01-27-2005, 01:43 PM   #40
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duocash kicks ass, mark my words , DUOCASH IS THE FUTURE OF ONLINE BILLING !!!
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Old 01-27-2005, 01:52 PM   #41
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BTW..... I realized that I did not mention our payout cycle. The payouts are made on the 1st and the 15th of each month, two weeks in arrears.
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I need plenty of West Coast locations, especially San Jose CA, S.F. CA, Las Vegas, NV, Los Angeles CA, Sacramento CA, & Seattle WA.
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:46 PM   #44
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We've got 'em...... Come on down!
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