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Old 01-26-2005, 09:27 PM   #1
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Bush-haters you can't touch this argument!

Another reason why you shouldn't complain:

By complain about Bush winning and Kerry not winning from the present time, you're complaining and saying from a present perspective that if Kerry had won, things would have been different. However, the unrealized past of Kerry not winning cannot be compared to the retrospective view of what Bush has done to this present moment. This is so because by saying that something that never happened could have been better than what has happened to this point, you're basically trying to predict the future of the unrealized past from a present perspective. That is the same as trying to predict the future that hasn't occured yet from our current view point. I don't know any sane person who thinks the future can be predicted, but hell, that doesn't stop all you bitching assholes from complaining all the time.

Maybe thinking would be a better waste of time?
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:29 PM   #2
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I can't believe you love Bush enough to post that crap.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:31 PM   #3
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I can't believe you love Bush enough to post that crap.
you stupid piece of shit, read the text again.. you'll see if you do that i do not say anywhere that i love bush or that i support him. I am saying that complaining doesn't make sense to a normal person

now fuck off
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:31 PM   #4
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stay off the crack there, jackass!
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:34 PM   #5
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you stupid piece of shit, read the text again.. you'll see if you do that i do not say anywhere that i love bush or that i support him. I am saying that complaining doesn't make sense to a normal person

now fuck off
Oops, here we have a world class argument from a SMART piece of shit. Congrats dude.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:36 PM   #6
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Oops, here we have a world class argument from a SMART piece of shit. Congrats dude.
yea well, look at the history of past presidents and you'll see that the presidents have never had any control and it's not up to bush to decide what happens. bush or not, the foreign policy of the states remains the same
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:37 PM   #7
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It's an evil world. The rich are evil.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:39 PM   #8
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:39 PM   #9
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im staying out of this one, lol
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:39 PM   #10
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:43 PM   #11
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The poor are jealous and stupid
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:46 PM   #12
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So you're saying it woulnd't be better if we wouldn't have invaded iraq?
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:47 PM   #13
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You can make the argument that the poor are typically uneducated. And yes, probably jeleous too.
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Old 01-26-2005, 10:13 PM   #14
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i gave up on complaining

i just do my thing, don't set out to hurt others and hope i don't die anytime soon
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Old 01-26-2005, 11:11 PM   #15
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:stop

So by your logic if Bush tells me, "We have to invade Iraq and take out Saddam, because he might have WMDs and might use them or allow them to be used on us, " my proper response should then be to tell him that he is

"trying to predict the future that hasn't occured yet from our current view point. I don't know any sane person who thinks the future can be predicted."
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:48 AM   #16
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Everybody is entitled to his or her own opinion.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:52 AM   #17
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I must be getting tired because I didnt follow a single sentance of that
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:52 AM   #18
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Another reason why you shouldn't complain:

By complain about Bush winning and Kerry not winning from the present time, you're complaining and saying from a present perspective that if Kerry had won, things would have been different. However, the unrealized past of Kerry not winning cannot be compared to the retrospective view of what Bush has done to this present moment. This is so because by saying that something that never happened could have been better than what has happened to this point, you're basically trying to predict the future of the unrealized past from a present perspective. That is the same as trying to predict the future that hasn't occured yet from our current view point. I don't know any sane person who thinks the future can be predicted, but hell, that doesn't stop all you bitching assholes from complaining all the time.

Maybe thinking would be a better waste of time?


YEAH! AND SERIOUSLY.....HOW MUCH WOOD COULD A WOODCHUCK CHUCK IF A WOODCHUCK COULD CHUCK WOOD???????
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Old 01-27-2005, 05:23 AM   #19
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YEAH! AND SERIOUSLY.....HOW MUCH WOOD COULD A WOODCHUCK CHUCK IF A WOODCHUCK COULD CHUCK WOOD???????
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"But", she said, "this butter's bitter.
If I bake this bitter butter
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But a bit of better butter,
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So she bought a bit of butter
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Old 01-27-2005, 05:49 AM   #20
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I must be getting tired because I didnt follow a single sentance of that
its not just you lol
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:06 AM   #21
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I would rather have nothing happen or even the unexpected rather than Bush.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:11 AM   #22
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you stupid piece of shit, read the text again.. you'll see if you do that i do not say anywhere that i love bush or that i support him. I am saying that complaining doesn't make sense to a normal person

now fuck off

I sense a lot of anger. Maybe you should watch Dr. Phil a bit more...
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:27 AM   #23
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So by your logic if Bush tells me, "We have to invade Iraq and take out Saddam, because he might have WMDs and might use them or allow them to be used on us, " my proper response should then be to tell him that he is

"trying to predict the future that hasn't occured yet from our current view point. I don't know any sane person who thinks the future can be predicted."
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:07 AM   #24
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Another reason why you shouldn't complain:

By complain about Bush winning and Kerry not winning from the present time, you're complaining and saying from a present perspective that if Kerry had won, things would have been different. However, the unrealized past of Kerry not winning cannot be compared to the retrospective view of what Bush has done to this present moment. This is so because by saying that something that never happened could have been better than what has happened to this point, you're basically trying to predict the future of the unrealized past from a present perspective. That is the same as trying to predict the future that hasn't occured yet from our current view point.

Maybe thinking would be a better waste of time?
regardless of election outcome, you're still an idiot

Dude open yer fucking eyes and just look at lets say the national deficit when repubs are in office VS Dems..... now you tell me there wouldn't have been a difference. Republicans ALWAYS drive us into a debt and Dems ALWAYS pull us out of it. But you're right, 4 more years of republican spending VS Democratic fiscal responsibility wouldn't have made any difference either.

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I don't know any sane person who thinks the future can be predicted, but hell, that doesn't stop all you bitching assholes from complaining all the time.
exactly, so how the fuck do you know if Kerry had been elected it wouldn't have been different? Now shut the fuck up, argument works both ways and you're contradicting yourself jackass.
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:13 AM   #25
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So by your logic if Bush tells me, "We have to invade Iraq and take out Saddam, because he might have WMDs and might use them or allow them to be used on us, " my proper response should then be to tell him that he is

"trying to predict the future that hasn't occured yet from our current view point. I don't know any sane person who thinks the future can be predicted."



unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears

bllott, you simply dont understand how idiotic that statement was - save this thread so that in 20 years when your 34 and more mature you can go back and laugh or at least show your child psychologist now!
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:41 AM   #26
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I clicked on this thread curious to see if there was some kind of well thought out, intelligent argument. Sadly I wasted my time and as expected found the opposite.
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:44 AM   #27
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jeeez...who friggin cares it is obvious you guys have no say in who is controlling youir country anyway..just go with the flow and stay out of harms way
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:46 AM   #28
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:48 AM   #29
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You are missing the point. It has nothing to do with Kerry and what "could be". I complain because our president has the intellect of a 13 year old. Period.
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