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awechen · 11-08-2001, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rollin:
i push about
15 gigs of b/w a day through an asp script with no problems...

code haterz

so what ?
15 gigs .... that u can handle by surfing one file ...

the question is:
1. req/sec.
2. database req/sec
....

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Lane · 11-08-2001, 01:44 PM

by the way, noone mentioned C#

i dont know much about it. what do you guys think?

Freeway · 11-08-2001, 03:52 PM

What about Objective-C?

11-08-2001, 04:27 PM

How about Motif, Python, gawk and tcl ?

Isn't C# only for M$'s .NET architecture ?

Rivux · 11-08-2001, 04:32 PM

Dont forget Cobol.

Nbritte · 11-08-2001, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rivux:
Dont forget Cobol.

might work good for busisness application dont thing it would work to good for web application but have not messed with it for 10 years or so

Nbritte · 11-08-2001, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dopy:

My partner is an ex 8086 assembly programmer and its now about as useful as a chocolate kettle unless you want to work with boring embedded stuff.

PHP and Perl are simple to learn and the most useful for your online and offline scripting work. It is also of great benefit to learn a little unix while working yourself through perl and PHP. If you are thinking about a future in serious online data handling then C is a must. And don't forget Java, a few lines of code browser side can be very useful at times.

I would agree with this some things you just can do with one language sometimes it takes two a little of one and a lot of the other to make things work

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Theo · 11-08-2001, 05:39 PM

cobol is kept alive. A very high % of the business applications which are used up to now are written in cobol and at least for this decade this will remain as it is. Not many companies are willing to spend money to change their application and to transfer from 1000s to million records if the current one is working properly.

Lane · 11-08-2001, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel:
cobol is kept alive. A very high % of the business applications which are used up to now are written in cobol and at least for this decade this will remain as it is. Not many companies are willing to spend money to change their application and to transfer from 1000s to million records if the current one is working properly.

thats why you learn Cobol only when you have to do so. otherwise its one of the most useless languages IMO.

awechen · 11-09-2001, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox:
How about Motif, Python, gawk and tcl ?

Isn't C# only for M$'s .NET architecture ?

awk (*awk)
is still the best tool for mal shellscripts

IIRC C# will be also comming for linux / solaris

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TheFLY · 11-09-2001, 10:54 AM

Are there any good books on doing CGI with C?

Also what's the easiest way to do .GIF graphics generated through CGI... I have used Perl w/ "onthefly" before -- but if there is something cooler I'd love to know about it.

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Hooper · 11-09-2001, 11:12 AM

Start with simple "C" or C++ stuff... just do enough of the intro lessons to get a feel for variable usage, threads, etc....

Then do the same with Java.

Once you've gotten a simple grasp as to how those two work, then learn your first useful language... Perl.

Once you have MASTERED perl then use PHP... php (Perl Hypertext Preprocessor) while incredibly useful and adept for webapp development, is based on perl, which is based on c :-)

Funny thing about programming is that once you know one language really well (i know perl.. that's my 'thing') it's sooo easy to pick up another language :-)

11-09-2001, 11:14 AM

Last time I looked it up PHP was written in C and not in Perl !?!?

run · 11-09-2001, 11:16 AM

PASCAL, PHP is written in PASCAL and C++ is written in PASCAL too as well as Apache.

now you know what to learn first.

run · 11-09-2001, 11:21 AM

fly :: ghost script.

11-09-2001, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by run:
PASCAL, PHP is written in PASCAL and C++ is written in PASCAL too as well as Apache.

now you know what to learn first.

Cough, PHP is an Apache module written in C, correct ? Would someone clearify this please ? Not that it really matters, but I am just curious.

Theo · 11-09-2001, 08:36 PM

almost everything is written in c

i dont think it's useful to learn both php and perl,at least concerning the time factor. If you are good with php you don't need perl. If you are good with perl, you don't need php. Most of the times it would be like saying "well i know how to use windows 98 and windows ME". With both languages you can do tons of things and you'll need enough time to say: i fucking rock. Better stick with one and go for something other instead spending your time on a very similar web lang.

Lane · 11-09-2001, 08:55 PM

php was not even intended to be a language but it turned out to be more successfull then perl on web applications.
and i am pretty sure the php module is coded in C.

i like C a lot because of many reasons. it gives you the real power to be able to do almost anything. on the other hand, it is a lot harder and requires a lot more than some simple programming experience.

Lane

TheFLY · 11-09-2001, 10:57 PM

I loved Pascal! Great language ;)

BTW what is ghost script? what's the URL?

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brocklanders · 11-09-2001, 11:01 PM

Turtle Graphics (LOGO)

Remember that shit?

aleck · 11-10-2001, 01:09 AM

pascal is good for schools. for real things u need to know c.

c is a must, then c++ as more complex version.

when u _think_ u know c/c++ go for perl, u'll love it.

after perl - php, it will take ur one day at min and one week at max.

run · 11-10-2001, 05:24 AM

fly :: it depends what you need to do with the image you want to process.

I used to use gs, latex, image magick (unix version) and convert.

these programs can do whatever you can imagine really, the question is if the cpu usage has any importance to you

most of them are installed by default on redhat linux, not sure about other platforms. There is bsd 4.4 on our university server, it also had them all.

try the manual pages, i dont remember URLs really.

Osholio · 11-10-2001, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox:
Cough, PHP is an Apache module written in C, correct ? Would someone clearify this please ? Not that it really matters, but I am just curious.

PHP is written in C, I know this for a fact since I had to troll through the souce to pin down a bug in the Truetype Font support in the GD library (the bug was in GD, not PHP).

PHP has never stood for 'Perl Hypertext Preprocessor', at best it's a recursive acronym 'PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor', and doesn't really resemble Perl that much. Sure it has hashes (associative arrays) but just about every other function is available in a different way to Perl, for example regexes are performed via a function (either Posix or Perl style) and are not native to the language.

Perl makes an excellent scripting language, I use it a lot, but PHP is much more 'designed' for Web scripting.

In any case, real men code like this:

copy con program.exe

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awechen · 11-11-2001, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Osholio:
PHP is written in C,

some apl-shitt it in c++

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Theo · 11-11-2001, 08:52 AM

copy con program.exe

sure! although i prefer edit program.exe

TheFLY · 11-11-2001, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Osholio:
PHP has never stood for 'Perl Hypertext Preprocessor', at best it's a recursive acronym 'PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor', and doesn't really resemble Perl that much. Sure it has hashes (associative arrays) but just

PHP stands for "Personal Home Page" -- the guy originally coded it to see how many people were accessing his resume.

Or so the story goes -- maybe he was really an adult webmaster ;)

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11-08-2001, 01:44 PM	#52
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	by the way, noone mentioned C# i dont know much about it. what do you guys think?

11-08-2001, 03:52 PM	#53
Freeway Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: EU Posts: 441	What about Objective-C?

11-08-2001, 04:27 PM	#54
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	How about Motif, Python, gawk and tcl ? Isn't C# only for M$'s .NET architecture ?

11-08-2001, 04:32 PM	#55
Rivux Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,026	Dont forget Cobol.

11-08-2001, 05:39 PM	#58
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	cobol is kept alive. A very high % of the business applications which are used up to now are written in cobol and at least for this decade this will remain as it is. Not many companies are willing to spend money to change their application and to transfer from 1000s to million records if the current one is working properly.

11-09-2001, 10:54 AM	#61
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Are there any good books on doing CGI with C? Also what's the easiest way to do .GIF graphics generated through CGI... I have used Perl w/ "onthefly" before -- but if there is something cooler I'd love to know about it. ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.thefly.net/topfly.html" TARGET=_blank> </A>Oh Baby! TheFLY.net

11-09-2001, 11:12 AM	#62
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	Start with simple "C" or C++ stuff... just do enough of the intro lessons to get a feel for variable usage, threads, etc.... Then do the same with Java. Once you've gotten a simple grasp as to how those two work, then learn your first useful language... Perl. Once you have MASTERED perl then use PHP... php (Perl Hypertext Preprocessor) while incredibly useful and adept for webapp development, is based on perl, which is based on c :-) Funny thing about programming is that once you know one language really well (i know perl.. that's my 'thing') it's sooo easy to pick up another language :-)

11-09-2001, 11:14 AM	#63
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Last time I looked it up PHP was written in C and not in Perl !?!?

11-09-2001, 11:16 AM	#64
run Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: spain Posts: 59	PASCAL, PHP is written in PASCAL and C++ is written in PASCAL too as well as Apache. now you know what to learn first.

11-09-2001, 11:21 AM	#65
run Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: spain Posts: 59	fly :: ghost script.

11-09-2001, 08:36 PM	#67
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	almost everything is written in c i dont think it's useful to learn both php and perl,at least concerning the time factor. If you are good with php you don't need perl. If you are good with perl, you don't need php. Most of the times it would be like saying "well i know how to use windows 98 and windows ME". With both languages you can do tons of things and you'll need enough time to say: i fucking rock. Better stick with one and go for something other instead spending your time on a very similar web lang.

11-09-2001, 08:55 PM	#68
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	php was not even intended to be a language but it turned out to be more successfull then perl on web applications. and i am pretty sure the php module is coded in C. i like C a lot because of many reasons. it gives you the real power to be able to do almost anything. on the other hand, it is a lot harder and requires a lot more than some simple programming experience. Lane

11-09-2001, 10:57 PM	#69
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	I loved Pascal! Great language ;) BTW what is ghost script? what's the URL? ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.thefly.net/topfly.html" TARGET=_blank> </A>Oh Baby! TheFLY.net

11-09-2001, 11:01 PM	#70
brocklanders Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 297	Turtle Graphics (LOGO) Remember that shit?

11-10-2001, 01:09 AM	#71
aleck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 940	pascal is good for schools. for real things u need to know c. c is a must, then c++ as more complex version. when u _think_ u know c/c++ go for perl, u'll love it. after perl - php, it will take ur one day at min and one week at max.

11-10-2001, 05:24 AM	#72
run Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: spain Posts: 59	fly :: it depends what you need to do with the image you want to process. I used to use gs, latex, image magick (unix version) and convert. these programs can do whatever you can imagine really, the question is if the cpu usage has any importance to you most of them are installed by default on redhat linux, not sure about other platforms. There is bsd 4.4 on our university server, it also had them all. try the manual pages, i dont remember URLs really.

11-11-2001, 08:52 AM	#75
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	copy con program.exe sure! although i prefer edit program.exe