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Old 11-08-2001, 01:47 AM   #1
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Your Views and opinions towards women and porn.

I'm discusted with some Blow Job footage i just saw. Maybe it's me but this shit discusted me and made me upset...

This is the side of the adult industry i refuse to be involved in. The worst thing i can ever see is when a man hits a woman,Especially the macho type fucks.That just sets me off and thats when i will grab my guns.This person seems like a classic woman beater.


I have viewed steve sweets stuff and let me tell you, hes all style and the girls are willing..I fond this not sexy at all and falls in more of the lines as rape and control.

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http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ul...c&f=1&t=010602

THis is so fucking degrading to women,i hate seeing this..
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Old 11-08-2001, 01:53 AM   #2
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That's Gauge bro... believe me... she was willing.

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Old 11-08-2001, 01:57 AM   #3
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shes fucking barfing and hes pushing her..I dont know it just doesnt seem cool..Maybe im being a pussy...
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Old 11-08-2001, 02:03 AM   #4
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Well, I'll agree with that... kinda fuckin' nasty really... I guess somebody must get off on it... personally, I'd rather see something a little more... "erotic" I guess... but don't think for a minute that Gauge would be there for any other reason than makin' some phat cash from that shoot.
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Old 11-08-2001, 02:14 AM   #5
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He does seem mean to her but
perhaps it goes with the story
line. Maybe she lost a bet? Maybe
she cheated on him? Maybe she likes getting treated like a whore?

I wouldn't judge it without seeing
the whole movie.

In fact...I might whip out the ole
ding dong and pretend that is my
exwife, lol.
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Old 11-08-2001, 02:43 AM   #6
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This raises the question: Is it right to abuse someone simply because they are willing to abuse. The etymology is "ab" (wrongly) + "use." So, "abuse" means, basically, to "misuse."

Consent isn't everything. If someone says it's okay to shoot him in the head, it doesn't follow that it's okay to shoot him in the head.

Consider the Max Hardcore videos, where the girls earn a few bucks by basically consenting to let him assault them. Even a lot of the people in the industry think he goes too far.

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Big difference between putting a bullet in someone's head and giving them head.
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Old 11-08-2001, 03:00 AM   #8
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if she's a low enough type of person to get paid for that kind of work, so be it...

maybe she likes it
some girls get turned on by WEIRD stuff!
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Old 11-08-2001, 03:02 AM   #9
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shes fucking barfing and hes pushing her..I dont know it just doesnt seem cool..Maybe im being a pussy...

You're not!
I'm feeling bad about it 2!

as She is a very pretty girl
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Old 11-08-2001, 03:06 AM   #10
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I think it has to do more with the clientele of your website.

While I do not believe abusive imagery encourages abusive behavior, that doesn't mean I have to post that shit on my sites or market to people that like their porn on the humiliating end of the spectrum.

If the models sign the waivers and agree to do the work for the money, then that is the business of the model, photographer and of-age surfer. If they make legitimate income from the kinds of customers that enjoy cruelty, then they can keep their fucking customers because I don't want them.

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Old 11-08-2001, 03:22 AM   #11
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I have never really scene stuff like this.And i thought i have seen it all.What i'm trying to say is this was not acting..No porn start can act like that unless shes in a deniro film..

I believe she was high on something and the guy was truly himself,a woman beater.. I just want to see the many sides of this and opinions.. This is like a ethics class to me to see different views and perspctives of this.

Snow,Thanks for the comments..
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Old 11-08-2001, 03:25 AM   #12
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YOu know it,s like you go to stip clubs and you see these girls working the tables and there busting there asses and loving it.Some are going to school,some shoot porn.. I cant put these 2 in that category of the adult biz..

This did not look like production at all was it?? I have done stills for Some film production companies like Elegant angel and Sincity and this is not what goes on. Shes either a kick ass actress or she was high on something.. I was far from a stiffy watching this ,I almost puked...
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oh, well that would require actually looking at the link. not gonna happen here.

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Old 11-08-2001, 03:51 AM   #14
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The girl knew they filmed her!

Clearly she was drunk of some very strong alcohol!

The guy must be very rich and powerfull !
There wasn;t any love in these blowjobs and no respect for the girl!

As the guy slapped her several times with his Dick after he load his sperm in her throat!

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I'm sure a lot of people would crack up to hear us goin off on the ethics and morals of these companies...

I'm with the majority of you. This is fucked up content. The way she is treated. The way the guy carelessly acts - putting the girl in a potential situation where she could have lost control of breathing.

AND then there is the possibility that she was high... which is fuckin' ABSURD. How can legitimate companies act in such a manner? Somebody on the other board mentioned that you can get her stuff thru Matrix Content...is that the type of videos Matrix has? Is it staged or real?

Well you'll never catch me doing that shit... it's lower than low. We treat each of the models like they are our employees... it's all on the up and up.

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Old 11-08-2001, 04:29 AM   #16
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NO WAY MATRIX puts stuff out like this.. All of there stuff is glamour and sexy.. As a matter of fact they have no hardcore videos period..

This just made me sick and i'm learning here that the majority agrees with me..
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Old 11-08-2001, 05:59 AM   #17
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I don't think she is drunk or being forced.

The girl looks nice but the video is not sexy at all.


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As a woman in the business ... I tend to take this stuff with a grain of salt ...

There's no question that a large part of the audience likes the submissive woman getting beat or forced into sex or whatever ...

But the way I look at it is ... Most men have this fantasy because, in reality, they have no power at all ... Women Do ...

Hence the fantasy that women submit and they can force us to do anything they want us to ... when, in fact, the reality is usually completely the opposite ...

So I don't get offended by this stuff ... I tend to look beneath the surface ...
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As a woman in the business ... I tend to take this stuff with a grain of salt ...

There's no question that a large part of the audience likes the submissive woman getting beat or forced into sex or whatever ...

But the way I look at it is ... Most men have this fantasy because, in reality, they have no power at all ... Women Do ...

Hence the fantasy that women submit and they can force us to do anything they want us to ... when, in fact, the reality is usually completely the opposite ...

So I don't get offended by this stuff ... I tend to look beneath the surface ...
*SIGH* Aint that the truth.
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Old 11-08-2001, 08:40 AM   #21
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Old 11-08-2001, 09:07 AM   #22
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I don't think that's right how she's choking like that. Some women do like that kind of treatment though, it turns them on, but you can't really tell in that situation. That guy does treat her like shit. I know that when my wifey is deep throating me, I let her do her thing, he he he.

As far as Deep Throat footage goes. If you wanna see some GREAT deepthroat videos, you should load up your Morpheus and search for Heather iDeepThroat in the video artist section, you'll see some of the BEST amateur videos out there.

Heather takes it and has fun with it. She looks nice, she deepthroats, takes it in the ass, has her friends join in, whatta woman, he he he.

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There's MANY others, some with girl-girl action or dual girl blowjobs.


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Old 11-08-2001, 09:47 AM   #23
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You're not!
I'm feeling bad about it 2!

as She is a very pretty girl
So it's okay to treat ugly girls that way?

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Old 11-08-2001, 01:24 PM   #24
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You completely went off topic.. Not looking for more of that shit..There is just alot of scum in this industry i can tell you that much.. I'm glad to know the poeple i know and not people like that..

And not all men are weak like that sorry i dissagree..No woman has me by the balls and neither do they..I'm in a no one wears the pants marriage..Its either Mutual or nothing..

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Old 11-08-2001, 01:33 PM   #25
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I'm in a no one wears the pants marriage..Its either Mutual or nothing..
ahhh... so you're either henpecked or whipped.

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Old 11-08-2001, 01:48 PM   #26
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Hardly whipped..We have been together 15 years. I have been married 12 and have 3 sons ages 11,9,7.. Just very secure..Marriage is a roller coaster whos?? isnt..
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The anal scene from the same video is fucking wild, the dick must be about 8 inches and it seems to go ALL the way in, out, in, out, in... do these girls take something to slacken the back door? It looks so damn painful.
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I posted it there, I'll post it here too...

I think Gauge is playing a part here, at least that's the feeling I got from the vids. Yes it's somewhat degrading, but then again I've seen tons of pornos where the female is slapped, pinned down or slightly abused in some way. Hell, I saw a blowjob scene once where Jamie Gillis slapped Ginger Lynn in the face because she was teasing instead of sucking. The look on her face was hauntingly evil, but she finished the scene just the same. It was a much more degrading scene than these Gauge scenes, but if the femal actor is willing to take such abuse then there is very little to be said here.
It then comes down to personal tastes.

It's not illegal to film or create such scenes, as long as there is no extreme violence coupled with sex or forced sex depicted. What remains is your own choice of whether you want to view it or not. And for the record, if I were to ever produce any hardcore videos or pic sets, I would stick to the more mainstream rather than this stuff. But that's just me.

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Snow ... I wasn't trying to express any opinion about you, your marriage, or anything like that ...

I was merely expressing an opinion about the audience that digs this type of extreme content that you mentioned ...

And quite frankly, most of the time, what is this business essentially about? The fact that men, by and large, desperately want women (unless they're gay, of course ... LOL)

I do a lot of promotion in adult chat rooms ... and there's always a shortage of women. Therefore, I'm flooded with requests for cyber, webcam, etc....

These guys are so desperate, they'll do anything ... even for what amounts to a fake sex experience. And beneath all of that is a deep rooted wish that they could call the shots and dominate a willing submissive woman in anyway they please ...

This is just my theory about why extreme content tends to be popular ...

As far as the power issue is concerned ... well ... with the few obvious exceptions ... what are we selling here?

Last time I checked pussy usually sells alot better than dick ... LOL ...

Therein lies the answer to the power question ... in my humble opinion ... LOL
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Thanks erotic i respect your post.. I guess i saw it as to extreme thats all..The guy is definately on a power trip..Do you honestly thinks he respects women inreal life.. Oh well whatever.
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Oh ... I doubt the guy quote "respects" the woman ...

BUT ... look at Heather of IDeepthroat whom Slick mentioned above ...

She has a HUGE following ... Slick mentioning her on an adult webmaster board, of all places, is evidence of that alone ...

And she does a ton of submissive quote "humilitating" stuff ... but she appears to really enjoy it ... and has a huge fan base ...

Do her fans "respect" her? I guess it depends on how you define respect.

On the face of it ... the humilitation alone would not be typically be defined as respect ...

But if she's making a ton of money doing what she does ... that could be regarded as another form of "respect" ...

Based upon what I've seen from her fans ... I wouldn't be surprized if they would bow down before her and kiss her feet ... among other things ... LOL

Whether she's acting or truly enjoying it ... ultimately it's probably her choice to do what she does ...

I think it depends upon the woman ... and how she views it.

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Wow, talk about misconceptions, respect means:

"To threat with high esteem, regards and consideration for the other."



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lol whats up Wiz
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First of all she looks like she is 16 and second of all the girl is chocking for god's sake.

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Just cuz she looks it, don't mean she is. I've got her ID sitting on my desk as I type this.

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i say KILL EM ALL!!!

j/k ;-P

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what does 1 month cookie life mean..Can someone explain this??

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Human nature is interesting... I think it's sad that a lot of guys don't know how to fuck w/o playing power games -- but power can be fun to play with...

What Erotictrance said is pretty interesting -- there are a lot of sexually powerless men out there -- especially in our society w/ all of our socially constructed rules -- while the primal urges rage on inside of us...

And the fact remains that some girls want you to be sweet and gentle all of the time -- and other girls want their pussy and ass slapped -- they want their nipples bit -- they want to be held down... An innocent child may watch their parents fucking and think, "why is my daddy hurting my mommy?"... I'm not saying all girls want to be slapped around -- but there's no doubt in my mind that some women will like it.

Put your hand on her pussy and try things -- her wetness may admit to you what she was too proud to admit with words.

If you want to go see a fucked up movie -- go see "Fat Girl"... I saw it last night w/ a girlfriend. Crazy shit... they broke a lot of rules with that movie... it's about two young sisters... if you have an open mind -- go watch it. It's in French w/ subtitles.

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Snow... about the cookies... when you set a cookie -- you can set an expiration date/time... be default -- when you set a cookie -- it expires when you close the browser (well for most browsers that is the default) -- but the site that places the cookie has the option to set the cookie for however long they want... But I think most browsers purge cookies eventually.

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