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Old 01-22-2005, 02:19 PM   #1
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Scammer Alert *zipperfish.com*

The guy who runs www.Zipperfish.com signed up for our affiliate program a few days ago, and I checked out his website down and found this:

http://www.zipperfish.com/main/main.html

Rachel19.com is our model and he's selling sets of her on his website (along with other girls) for $7.95/month. He never asked our permission to do so and obviously we would never let anyone do that.

In case the link goes down here is a copy of the front page http://orifice.net/288

Here is the tour http://www.zipperfish.com/zchicks/tour/jan2005-20.html and backup here http://orifice.net/289

If you notice the tour, it says 'CLICK HERE TO JOIN TODAY' and that link goes to HIS signup page http://www.zipperfish.com/join/join.html not CCBill's affiliate tracking link which is $7.95/month recurring.

Unbelievable.
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:26 PM   #2
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Btw, the watermarks from my images are conveniently gone as well.
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:28 PM   #3
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Bump
Everyone should check for their sites.
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If you run a solo girl softcore or NN site there's a good chance he is stealing your content, this needs to be stopped.
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everyone spread the word, there is a shitload of models on that site.
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There is a pic of him on that site in the little blog section at the bottom. "The Walrus" . . . I am sure if that's him, someone here knows him or saw him at internext.
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Does he upsell to your site in the members area?
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He looks damn familiar to me. Maybe he just has one of those faces but it seems like I have seen pics of him before.
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Does he upsell to your site in the members area?
Do you know what the members area is? It's our content! He is SELLING it on HIS site. I don't know if there are members area upsell links but that doesn't really matter, does it?
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met him at amateurbash.....kind of a fast/slick talker....
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not to mention the fact that he is cutting off watermarks.
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damn zipperfish is a huge site.

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Do you know what the members area is? It's our content! He is SELLING it on HIS site. I don't know if there are members area upsell links but that doesn't really matter, does it?

I was not saying it was right either way I was just curious.
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Who does his processing? Where does he host? Contact them.
His join page posts data to a local form on his site. I haven't signed up but it looks like he has a merchant account, but I could be wrong.
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I was not saying it was right either way I was just curious.
I really don't know. He never contacted me before so I don't know what he's doing inside the site.
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Domain Name: ZIPPERFISH.COM
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Domain Name: ZIPPERFISH.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
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I emailed and called him and he called me back. He claims a *friend* of his asked me if he could use the pics on his site (I only talked to him once, he didn't ask anything related content, and I wouldn't have given him permission anyway). What a bullshit excuse.

He told me he's going to take down the images today but we will see. You cannot trust a scammer and he'll probably keep the images in his members area. When I mentioned he pulled the same scam with www.Karisweets.com (FelixFlow's site) he sarcastically thanked me for telling my friends about his scamming efforts.

I'm going to be contacting the other webmasters as well and maybe file a class action suit. This guy has made a ton of money stealing content and he needs to be stopped.
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I emailed and called him and he called me back. He claims a *friend* of his asked me if he could use the pics on his site (I only talked to him once, he didn't ask anything related content, and I wouldn't have given him permission anyway). What a bullshit excuse.

He told me he's going to take down the images today but we will see. You cannot trust a scammer and he'll probably keep the images in his members area. When I mentioned he pulled the same scam with www.Karisweets.com (FelixFlow's site) he sarcastically thanked me for telling my friends about his scamming efforts.

I'm going to be contacting the other webmasters as well and maybe file a class action suit. This guy has made a ton of money stealing content and he needs to be stopped.
Fucking sucks.

Best bet is to wait till he takes it down, wait a few more days and then join the site and check the members area.
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damn zipperfish is a huge site.

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Just got off the phone with the guy that runs his hosting company.

Not real helpful at all.... sounds like a kid!

Call him up and raise hell. He would not shut him down and says zipperfish is an affiliate. haha Im sure he is, but he is using our galleriers to line his members area.. then upselling to each of the sites using his affiliate id to each of the progams.

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Check this out... haha

Read his 2257 statement

http://www.zipperfish.com/2257.html
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Check this out... haha

Read his 2257 statement

http://www.zipperfish.com/2257.html
I should ask him for model verification on Rachel.
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See: http://www.liquidgeneration.com/flix/behind_lg.asp
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Read his 2257 statement

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Just got off the phone with the guy that runs his hosting company.

Not real helpful at all.... sounds like a kid!

Call him up and raise hell. He would not shut him down and says zipperfish is an affiliate. haha Im sure he is, but he is using our galleriers to line his members area.. then upselling to each of the sites using his affiliate id to each of the progams.

321-207-5590
...always funny when scamers go after scamers.
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That's my boy "The Walrus" from LiquidGeneration. There *MUST* be a good explanation

See: http://www.liquidgeneration.com/flix/behind_lg.asp
Yes, there is. He's making money off of webmasters by signing up for their affiliate program, stealing the images, removing the watermarks and selling them as "Z-Chicks" on his own site for $7.95/month (without permission from the owners of the content of course).

Then he has the audacity to add his refer ID to the links and tries to make money by doing upsells inside the members area -- which is all stolen content. Yeah, that's a great explanation.
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Yes, there is. He's making money off of webmasters by signing up for their affiliate program, stealing the images, removing the watermarks and selling them as "Z-Chicks" on his own site for $7.95/month.

Then he has the audicity to add his refer ID to the links and tries to make money by doing upsells inside the members area -- which is all stolen content. Yeah, that's a great explanation.
Listen, I didn't give ANY explanation. In fact, I helped you out. He has always been a stand up guy. This sounds extremely out of the ordinary. I am not saying I'm wrong or I'm right. Past experiences with the guy state that he is okay... I could be wrong

Are you the ONLY man that can say that he has no right to use that shit? If so - go get 'em tiger
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Listen, I didn't give ANY explanation. In fact, I helped you out. He has always been a stand up guy. This sounds extremely out of the ordinary. I am not saying I'm wrong or I'm right. Past experiences with the guy state that he is okay... I could be wrong

Are you the ONLY man that can say that he has no right to use that shit? If so - go get 'em tiger
He is infringing on MY copyrights and all the copyrights of the owners of the photographs. Additionally as pointed out early in the thread, he is also supplying false 2257 information. What he is doing is illegal, immoral and completely fucked up. If you cannot see this, then go back to surfing for porn.
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Look at the botton first on the left.
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Yup, Naomi is there too.
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He is infringing on MY copyrights and all the copyrights of the owners of the photographs. Additionally as pointed out early in the thread, he is also supplying false 2257 information. What he is doing is illegal, immoral and completely fucked up. If you cannot see this, then go back to surfing for porn.
Very true and if this guy is from Liquied Generation he is not an idiot and would have a clue on copyright infringment. I dont see how in gods name this could be just a misunderstanding given the source. The design, produce and market there flash work on there websites also... thats what they do. Im sure they have a clue about using someone elses product and profiting from it.

Ive talk to the owner there many times with some of my other projects.. they do have a clue.

This was outright theft! This guy is educated and been around the web for some time... he knew exact what he was doing. One of two images... yeah.. sure that might happen, but to build an entire marketing plan and site around stolen content... never.
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bump. all webmasters check his site for your content.
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That is a pretty nice looking website. Makes no sense
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wow, that is fucked up...scammers can be so dubious sometimes
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Old 01-23-2005, 03:46 PM   #46
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damn thats some bogus ass shit
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:28 AM   #47
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bump. paysite owners check his site for your content.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:49 AM   #48
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The 2257 page seems to of changed.

CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS - U.S.C. TITLE 18,
SECTION 2257 COMPLIANCE
In compliance with United States Code, Title 18, Section 2257, all models, actors, actresses and other persons who appear in any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct appearing or otherwise contained in or at this site were over the age of eighteen years at the time of the creation of such depictions.


It doesn't mention anything about the custodian of records anymore =/
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:08 PM   #49
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The 2257 page seems to of changed.

CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS - U.S.C. TITLE 18,
SECTION 2257 COMPLIANCE
In compliance with United States Code, Title 18, Section 2257, all models, actors, actresses and other persons who appear in any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct appearing or otherwise contained in or at this site were over the age of eighteen years at the time of the creation of such depictions.


It doesn't mention anything about the custodian of records anymore =/
imagine that.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:10 PM   #50
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