SleazyDream

I'll copy the email I got from them - I'm in utter shock.

Response (Jessica) - 01/21/2005 10:08 AM
Hello,

I was sent this email from one of the Representatives from Directi. You will need to contact them so you can work with them to get your domain back. Probably what they will want you to do is pay for the transfer fee at a discounted rate and then once you do this, you can manage the domain there. After you get the domain back, you can then contact me, we will work on getting the domain back to Dotster.

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Hello Jessica,

A thorough search indicates the following domain names having transferred recently from Dotster:


easy-dater.com

Yes, you can ask the Registrants to directly get in touch with [email protected] and refer to their conversation with yourself and then we can work upon the previously discussed path of resolving this issue.

Cheers,

Saurabh Pande
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Directi.com - The Internet Foundation
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http://support.directi.com
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Response (Jessica) - 01/19/2005 08:58 AM
Hello,

We have contacted the current Registrar of the domain. They have sent the below option to get your domain back.

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From Directi:
This is what we can do in this case:

1. You ask the Registrant to provide us an E-mail Address which will be used as a Username for the Customer Control Panel [CCP]

2. We will allot a CCP to the Registrant to manage the domain name shinjukuseries.com

3. We will then apply Registrar Lock to this domain name and raise an Invoice of USD 6.99 to recover the Cost of Renewal of this domain name. This is will be done since the Customer who transferred this domain name will surely Chargeback [Dispute] the CC transaction. Of course, this price is much lower than our regular Customer's Cost for transferring domain names.

4. Once this Invoice is paid by the Registrant, we will remove Registrar Lock from this domain name and the Registrant may do whatever with his domain name.

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If you agree to these options, please let me know and I will set up a contact for you at Directi.

Response (Jessica) - 01/17/2005 05:15 PM
Hello,

We are in contact with the current Registrar and awaiting their response. Once they have contacted us, I will contact you with further details.














i can't belive they actually want me to pay them a few dollars to do this. I'm in complete shock at the utter stupidity of this, and it took them a WEEK to get this far.

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flashfire

idiots...they should be paying you

hydro

Thats a bunch of bullshit but i guess its better than not getting it back at all

Evil1

throw the word's lawyer and lawsuit around a few times..

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Donny

This thread will make you feel better.

r3ap3r

That's got to be the most crap I've ever heard. I hope it works out for you.

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SleazyDream

and i get the email fri afternoon AFTER they close their offices. TYPICAL

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AgentCash

Why is directi talking about shinjukuseries.com?

webair

get the domiain back, secure it, worry about the bs later

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SleazyDream

i have NO FUCKING IDEA.


I'm starting to seriously think BOTH registers do way too much crack cocain

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gideongallery

time to change registers

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if i got an email like that i would fucking crush the owner of that POS company.

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Mr Pheer

I wouldnt pay it, I'd tell them to keep that domain and all that traffic and the money it generates. Fuck that shit.

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AVM

Don't rock the boat - Pay the peanuts, get the domain back. THEN - talk bullshit to them.

beemk

i agree, pay it or it might delay it even more. THEN do a chargeback.

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Mr Pheer

I'd just pay it and then lock the domain down, and write the whole thing off as a lesson learned in not locking the domain down to begin with. And I'd be real fucking happy that I got the domain back.

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hova

that's the smart way

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monro

Best advice for SleazyDream:

Pay your domains in time and have a valid e-mail address at the registrar.
Lock you domains.
Try to be a little more polite at the boards. A lot of enemies won't help you.

LA Mike

Thats almost unbelievable

HarlotCash Dyker

The main thing is to ensure the daomain is fully back in your control - Paying the small fee will make sure this happens smoothly.
Once all that is sorted, fight them for compensation, especially as it looks like the registra could well be at fault.

Whichever - I am happy to see you got this stuff sorted out pretty quickly - Having been the victim of Eastern European scam merchants in the past (Which cost me about 500 recurring members due to these bastards hacking into my ccbill webmaster stats and cancelling memebers out, and also stealing domains from me), I know how you feel.

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LiveDose

That is totally ridiculous...

Do it, pay the fee, transfer it and then come up with an excuse to charge that bitch back.

OneHungLo

Thats scary , switch to directnic.com

monaro

I am happy you are able to get it back.

Jace

pay whatever to get it back, suck it up, it was your mistake to begin with for not locking your domains...as much as I don't agree with the transfer rules now, there will always be asshole scammers that try and do this shit...it is up to you to protect your ass, and if you are lazy and don't do it, then it is as much your fault as it is the scammer that fucked you

Project-Shadow

Sue them for lost income, and personal trauma. You locked your domains they shouldnt be able to do this.. then they have the nerve to charge you for their fuckup.

Jace

inever did read all the drama thread about this...i was just too busy

the domains were locked and the person was still able to transfer them away???

if so, i think you have a nice case that could prove significant monetary value

Rui

LOL what a joke, I mean its their fault, their problem, its like if you got shot by a cop and had to pay money to him for the accident...

Sexzity

I agree on that on.

Normaly i dont like chargeback, but in this case i belive you have every rights to do so.

Major (Tom)

Damn that sucks bro

I hope it all works out.
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DWB

Fuck. That blows. Pay it, move on and switch to another company, then chargeback whatever you paid them (directi).

TurboAngel

I would do this.

Video-Post

Lol anything but moving it back to Dotster. It was all their fault.

justsexxx

Were the domains locked?

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Glad your getting it back man, I agree don't rock the boat get your site back and then fuck them over as hard as you feel that you need to do to get some satisfaction.

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pradaboy

you'd better move all your domains over to directNIC Sleazy... just to be sure this will never happen to you again

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Basic_man

Holy fuck ! That's unbelivable ! Damn man, that sucks big time !

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godaddy did the same to me , extorted 50 bucks out of me

AgentCash

Everybody should contact ICANN, maybe they will require better safeguards from the registrars if they get enough complaints. You can send comments & suggestions to [email protected]

But please keep it professional. Sending what looks like rantings of a child won't do anything but harm to the point you're trying to make.

You can also file a problem report against individual registrars. ICANN can't solve it, but they do monitor problem reports to see trends. So show them a trend people.
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/regi...lem-report.cgi

arg

Wow, that seems impossibly corrupt, even for Directi. They've got enormous balls.

As someone else suggested, moving back to Dotster doesn't seem that smart anyway. There were several other hijackings from Dotster since this incident, and accusations that it was not just the fault of unlocked domains. I received a message from Dotster last night that they were immediately locking all domains, but it seems to me like they're trying to imply that unlocked domains was the main cause, without answering accusations of multiple flaws in their security. It's possible that Sleazy and the other victims screwed themselves with bogus email contacts or ignoring transfer requests, but I kind of doubt that, and if it were true, I'd think Dotster would say so...in their message they didn't even acknowledged that domains were hijacked from them, they just said domain hijacking reports are "widespread across the internet," and that there have been several attempts to hijack domains at Dotster. As I see it, reports of domain hijacking *from dotster* are widespread, with larger registrars having fewer problems.

arg

I think there were two hijackings reported from DirectNIC in the past week. At least one anyway, a high-traffic gallery site reported on GFY.

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pradaboy

really? I didn't hear about that... what site was it???

I think DirectNIC would do a lot more to get the domain back in a jiffy tho

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arg

Whoops, the gallery domain I thought was jacked from Directnic was jacked from Register.com. Directnic lost one belonging to antihotlinking.com...they didn't say which domain, but here's AHL's synopsis:

"It has come to our attention that approximately 2 days ago one of our domains has been stolen due to severe negligence on the part of our domain registrant DirecNic. This domain was used for license authorization of AHL (AntiHotLinker). Thus, for those clients who restarted their Apache web server in the last 2 days AHL has stopped protecting movies."

Registerfly lost a couple recently as well, for anyone keeping score...not sure if they're an eNom subsidiary or reseller, but I think they're connected somehow.

pradaboy

That sucks man... I think DNIC is still the best choice tho because they offer good support (right?). Seems like no registrar is safe anymore

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DirectNIC does have a reputation for responsive support, and that's been my experience. Personally they're not among my top picks for security, but I haven't used them enough lately to know their current situation in detail, so my opinion isn't especially well-informed.

While no registrar is safe, some are substantially more vulnerable than others. I think all the registrars who are losing domains would do well to publicly explain how it's happening and what they're doing to address the situation - whether it's more the fault of the registrars, or more the fault of the domain owners. In some cases it's a combination...registrars may meet the minimum standards required by ICANN, but there's a lot more they could do.

QuaWee

your best beat is to use directnic, my domains were automatically locked after the transfer policy was passed

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