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Old 01-21-2005, 02:43 AM   #1
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Karma - Bullshit or not?

Does what goes around really come around?
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:45 AM   #2
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it seems too, I often wonder about this and it seems to prove itself quite often
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I think so 150%

Then again I'm a practicing Buddhist.
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:46 AM   #4
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I think so 150%

Then again I'm a practicing Buddhist.
What tradition ?
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:46 AM   #6
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Does what goes around really come around?

No. I do stupid shit all the time....good shit still happpens to me
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I dunno I wonder myself. If you think about it Hitler killed several million people, but never really suffered, from what we know.
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Not exactly in the same form and degree but yes....
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I dunno I wonder myself. If you think about it Hitler killed several million people, but never really suffered, from what we know.
Maybe he's suffering in afterlife ?
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Maybe he's suffering in afterlife ?
If there is an afterlife......
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Here's what i think.

Karma is just cause and effect, not a magical force that randomly rewards or punishes you.

There is short-term personal karma, that which you create and affects you (and others) in your lifetime and that of the world interacting in the long-term over time creating consequences for the future. The two aren't really separate, just different ways of looking at the same thing.

You work out and end up getting fit - that's your personal karma. You get run over walking home form the gym - that's the drink driver's karma affecting you (as well as that of the people who invented and built the car, the street, etc without whom it couldn't have happened).

Everything is interconnected - you send your karma out into the world and the world's karma interacts with yours. Your personal karma improves your chances of success and happiness if it is positive. It doesn't guarantee it - because you are not separate from the world and other people's personal karma.
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What tradition ?
Tantra

It's the fastest but not as traditional as some others.

Still respected by most in the religion since it's helped bring the teachings to western civilization.
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:57 AM   #16
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i do believe in KARMA...that's why i dont do stuffs which will hurt other people...the golden rule is "do not do unto others what you dont want others do unto you" aiyt?
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I actually do belive in Karma and that what comes around goes around one way or another...

funny thing is that I don't belive in Jesus :D
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:58 AM   #18
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Here's what i think.

Karma is just cause and effect, not a magical force that randomly rewards or punishes you.

There is short-term personal karma, that which you create and affects you (and others) in your lifetime and that of the world interacting in the long-term over time creating consequences for the future. The two aren't really separate, just different ways of looking at the same thing.

You work out and end up getting fit - that's your personal karma. You get run over walking home form the gym - that's the drink driver's karma affecting you (as well as that of the people who invented and built the car, the street, etc without whom it couldn't have happened).

Everything is interconnected - you send your karma out into the world and the world's karma interacts with yours. Your personal karma improves your chances of success and happiness if it is positive. It doesn't guarantee it - because you are not separate from the world and other people's personal karma.
Off the religious version, I used to think that karma was stored in your brain somewhere and that you did things to yourself as a result of being a ass.

Kind of like guilt but subliminally stored in the subconscious.

That's kind of like what you said.
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Off the religious version, I used to think that karma was stored in your brain somewhere and that you did things to yourself as a result of being a ass.

Kind of like guilt but subliminally stored in the subconscious.

That's kind of like what you said.
I think it has to do with the overall algorithm of life. Everything is interconnected its just that there are several trillion variables. But your actions affect alot of them so inversely sometimes they have an opposite effect.
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Yes it does. Who ever tells you anything else is full of shit.
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Yes it does. Who ever tells you anything else is full of shit.
One would assume a Butt Horn would also be pretty full of shit.
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i do believe in KARMA...that's why i dont do stuffs which will hurt other people...the golden rule is "do not do unto others what you dont want others do unto you" aiyt?


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I think it has to do with the overall algorithm of life. Everything is interconnected its just that there are several trillion variables. But your actions affect alot of them so inversely sometimes they have an opposite effect.
True. The variables and interconnections and timing are SO HUGE when looked at from a life perspective. But if you were going to forensically trace a person's actions, you'd see some interesting chains.
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Instant karma?s gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin?
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin? at fools like me
Who in the hell d?you think you are
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Tantra

It's the fastest but not as traditional as some others.

Still respected by most in the religion since it's helped bring the teachings to western civilization.
Isn't Dzog Chen the fastest ?
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:tongue This is a great thread!!!

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Does what goes around really come around?
Fuck yeah it does dude!! In fact, I'm watching my ex boyfriend get it now, and I've witnessed karma in my own life too. It IS real, it takes no one to harm you, you can do it to yourself by not living good. Be careful what you do, and what you wish for, because what goes around definitely comes around....i have too many examples to list....so Beware of Karma.....

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Maybe it is just coincidence but when the Taliban fucked up that Giant Buddha statue in Bamyan, Afghanistan... maybe karma was triggered. Cuz they got booted out soon afterwards.
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i recon it does, it just happened to me today at work.
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not only, "what goes around, comes around"....but i think it comes back 10-fold!
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karma is just a nice warm fuzzy feeling people hope to get about about future actions they have no control over.
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i dont believe it..
too many bad things happen to good people.

And there are too many factors involved. Like one can make a case we deserved what happened to us on 9-11 because we were poking our noses in places we had no right to. But then you are stuck with the problem of karma of the people in the building. So either everyone in that building deserved to die or the peopel responsible will pay in the future. But it really makes no sense to think that way. Thats like saying something material can affect something immaterial. There simply isnt enough evidence to make a conclusion. But the lack of evidence is proof enough for me.
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I don't believe in karma per se.

I believe that negative energy attracts negative energy and postive energy attracts positive energy.
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You're not dead yet. Karma always catches up to you eventually. if you outrun it your whole life you probably won't have a very pleasant death. I know it's corny but I believe it 100%.
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You're not dead yet. Karma always catches up to you eventually. if you outrun it your whole life you probably won't have a very pleasant death. I know it's corny but I believe it 100%.

What if the original wrong doer escaped "justice" can karma fuck up his descendants? Would this be fair?
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