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Old 01-20-2005, 05:32 PM   #1
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GW's got some Big Ass Balls!

With American boys and girls being blown to pieces by Iraqies who hate our guts and America paying the price in blood for the same Nation building GW campaigned against GW Bush says... Shall we dance!

Over 10,000 young men and women mamed, lost arms, legs, eyes and tens of thousands scarred by the mind fuck of combat and counting and GW Bush says... Shall we dance!

During his speach today he proclaimed his right to decide what type of government other countries use as he spreads democracy at the point of a gun carried by some poor kids from the National Guard, while his daughters stand beside him in evening gowns and he says ... Shall we dance!

Well George.. the world can definately see you got some big ass balls!

But you know if you put your daughters in the Texas National Guard and put them in the front lines of combat then.. maybe I'd agree that you have big balls. Till then you're just a dancing fool in my book!


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Old 01-20-2005, 05:39 PM   #2
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if soldiers cant (or dont want to) deal with the harsh realities of war then they shouldnt fucking signup, theres no conscription, he hasnt forced them to go anywhere.....Soldiers get hurt, deal with it.

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Old 01-20-2005, 05:41 PM   #3
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if soldiers cant (or dont want to) deal with the harsh realities of war then they shouldnt fucking signup, theres no conscription, he hasnt forced them to go anywhere.....Soldiers get hurt, deal with it.

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You really are an idiot....

Those who signed up did so for many reasons, including DEFENDING their country...

I don't think it included attacking sovereign countries the other side of the world.... that didn't attack you

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Old 01-20-2005, 05:43 PM   #4
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You really are an idiot....

Those who signed up did so for many reasons, including DEFENDING their country...

I don't think it included attacking sovereign countries the other side of the world.... that didn't attack you

thats irrelivent, when you signup, you become part of the army. You cant be an individual, and pick and choose what wars you fight, they knew that when they signed up.....
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:44 PM   #5
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You really are an idiot....

Those who signed up did so for many reasons, including DEFENDING their country...

I don't think it included attacking sovereign countries the other side of the world.... that didn't attack you


America hasnt had to defend their country since the war of independance......
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:45 PM   #6
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thats irrelivent, when you signup, you become part of the army. You cant be an individual, and pick and choose what wars you fight, they knew that when they signed up.....
Do I hear Abu Gharib ????
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:45 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=evanmorgan]thats irrelivent, when you signup, you become part of the army.[QUOTE]
not if you sign up with the air force.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:46 PM   #8
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America hasnt had to defend their country since the war of independance......
Pearl Harbor was a direct attack on the United States from another nation - with more planned after. Check your history, please.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:47 PM   #9
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When I first heard GW campaign 5 years ago I said then.. This fuckers going to get us into a war. You could tell then. Listen to what he says, listen to what he said this very day. You think Iraq is the only place we will be at war with in the next four years? This administration screwed the pooch on weapons of mass distruction and everthing after that too and its been one lie and excuse after then next.

I think we should fight new wars don't get me wrong....
A war against world hunger...
A war against poverty ...
A war against Cancer and disease...
A war against ignorence...

But we can't use up our precious resource of our youth to overturn every dictator out there.

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Old 01-20-2005, 05:47 PM   #10
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I will never do that.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:49 PM   #11
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The US is right now being run by a bunch od idiots, that have world domination on the brain. The dont care how many die, as long as they are getting paid.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:50 PM   #12
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America hasnt had to defend their country since the war of independance......
Lets not forget the War of 1812 where the British burned down the White House and pushed down all the way to New Orleans before being defeated by Andrew Jackson, or the Civil War, where we were forced to defend our country from within.
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:51 PM   #13
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Pearl Harbor was a direct attack on the United States from another nation - with more planned after. Check your history, please.
they didnt physically defend their nation, check my bad self
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:51 PM   #14
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Lets not forget the War of 1812 where the British burned down the White House and pushed down all the way to New Orleans before being defeated by Andrew Jackson, or the Civil War, where we were forced to defend our country from within.
civil wars are slightly different though really....
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:52 PM   #15
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Pearl Harbor was a direct attack on the United States from another nation - with more planned after. Check your history, please.

Last time I checked my history, Hawaii was not a state during the attack. It was just a territory. That would be like if Guam were attacked.

But that was back when I was a little kid. Maybe history is different these days.
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A war against ignorence...
Oh the irony!
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Last time I checked my history, Hawaii was not a state during the attack. It was just a territory. That would be like if Guam were attacked.

But that was back when I was a little kid. Maybe history is different these days.
yeah see, if i was brought up in the US i would be able to gun your "facts" down like this
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Old 01-20-2005, 05:56 PM   #18
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With American boys and girls being blown to pieces by Iraqies who hate our guts and America paying the price in blood for the same Nation building GW campaigned against GW Bush says... Shall we dance!

Over 10,000 young men and women mamed, lost arms, legs, eyes and tens of thousands scarred by the mind fuck of combat and counting and GW Bush says... Shall we dance!

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Well George.. the world can definately see you got some big ass balls!

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You're a fucking fool. You think that if John Kerry were up there he wouldn't be doing the same fucking thing?

Just because it's Bush your ass is all outspoken. If it were Kerry, you wouldn't have a god damn thing to say, except "Look at what a graceful speech the president just made!"
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Sigh. You want to argue semantics, that's fine. I'm talking about a distinction between the silliness of Vietnam, or the current ridiculousness of Iraq. Both of those were/are 'preemptive wars'. Same with Korea, actually. Where the nations involved did not attack the United States, but we went to war against them to defend our 'interests'.

Pearl Harbor, regardless of whether it was an attack on a 'territory', was an attack, by a military force, belonging to an actual country, directed at the United States. If you read some of the correspondence amongst the Japanese Military regarding Pearl Harbor, they are pretty clear that they were attacking the United States.

You want to make the arguement about the fine print, well - I guess that's a way to win without actually being right.

The war in Iraq is an unwinnable farce, and history will show that to be true.
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You're a fucking fool. You think that if John Kerry were up there he wouldn't be doing the same fucking thing?

Just because it's Bush your ass is all outspoken. If it were Kerry, you wouldn't have a god damn thing to say, except "Look at what a graceful speech the president just made!"
But bottom line, BUSH press the RED invasion Button, not Kerry.
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