how can mrskin.com still exist? - GoFuckYourself.com

mike503 · 01-18-2005, 05:39 AM

i understand there's a lot of sites out there which push the envelope on trademark/copyright issues, or anything on the legal front. i was under the impression that the only way his site can survive is if:

1) his server(s) are in a country that does not enforce copyright laws
2) his processor(s) do not have rules against copyrighted content and/or reside in the same countries as (1)

examining it closer, it appears that his site is hosted in the US, and he also lists ccbill as one of his processors. does ccbill allow processing to sites that post copyrighted material (such as screencaps and such pulled from movies?) - i know that a friend of mine wanted to "legitimately" buy licenses for some celebrity photos to put on his site and soem photographers wanted something like up to $250 per image...

i'm very curious on this subject. i could be missing out because i was misinformed...

either way, props to him (i believe he posts on here, i think i've seen his name once in my very infrequent visits nowadays...) for making his site so big and successful.

MaDalton · 01-18-2005, 05:40 AM

you are misinformed - they send him the clips cause it is great marketing for them

JOP · 01-18-2005, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

you are misinformed - they send him the clips cause it is great marketing for them

what he said. they get the videos from the studios. They´re kind of mainstream.

Mike Dutch · 01-18-2005, 06:08 AM

The are on good hands with the film producers and do nothing illegal.
It a review site basically.

Jace · 01-18-2005, 06:50 AM

a site like that is easy when you make deals with all the movie studios

Basic_man · 01-18-2005, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

a site like that is easy when you make deals with all the movie studios

Right, but its hard to make business with all the studios :D

DEA - banned for life · 01-18-2005, 07:01 AM

well hes making money...guess hes doing somthing right

Steve_NCH · 01-18-2005, 09:10 AM

As I understand it he is reviewing nude scenes from movies and is therefore legally allowed to show pics/clips relating to his reviews, rather than just having a site showing nude celeb pics/clips (which would be illegal).

xclusive · 01-18-2005, 09:12 AM

Yes as long as you review the scene or pic it's legal under the fair use act.

Pornwolf · 01-18-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

Yes as long as you review the scene or pic it's legal under the fair use act.

Yep, but there is a fine line between a legal celeb site and an illegal one.

Nylz · 01-18-2005, 10:27 AM

Did somebody already mention he reviews the scenes and is on good hands with the movie studios?

mike503 · 01-18-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

Yes as long as you review the scene or pic it's legal under the fair use act.

whoa. now that is cool. i'm surprised our fucked up legal system hasn't closed that option out too.

i don't actually have access to the members area of mrskin, i just thought (assumed) that it was a celeb porn site, how i originally heard of it. not just screen caps of movies with a review added and thus immune to liability.

new question: how can hush-hush.com still be running? (same network as 1stflirt and other sites) - it appears it's hosted with rackspace.com in the US. i know the creators are in australia. but they offer nude pictures of girls down to 16 (that they know of) and i'm sure much younger, since they don't have any documentation or proof (they seem to get stolen webcam shots from people and post them - and refuse to take them down when the girls request it)

i can't tell what processor(s) they use because they have some odd system to validate email before the card processing. but how can this be hosted in the US? i know australia doesn't have as strict of laws with this, but the laws for content are applied to where it's hosted...

note: i'm not thinking of opening that kind of site. just wondering how some of these sites can survive because they violate some basic ideas i've had.

pxxx · 01-18-2005, 01:13 PM

I guess what ever he is doing is working.

JFK · 01-18-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nylz

Did somebody already mention he reviews the scenes and is on good hands with the movie studios?

YES, But lets hear it again

Phoenix · 01-18-2005, 01:19 PM

he also knows the law and how far to bend it

I am pretty sure that is the thing that separates them from other celeb sites....they know how far to push it...and when to step back and say no thanks

Jman · 01-18-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

YES, But lets hear it again

he reviews the scenes and is on good hands with the movie studios

Dennis69 · 01-18-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mike503

whoa. now that is cool. i'm surprised our fucked up legal system hasn't closed that option out too.

Actually Alyssa Milano mother took Uncle Scoopy's to court... and they won based on the movie reviews.
Haven't heard anything from the bitch since

LeeNoga · 01-18-2005, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

Yes as long as you review the scene or pic it's legal under the fair use act.

You are correct.

JFK · 01-18-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JMan

he reviews the scenes and is on good hands with the movie studios

why Thanks JMan .............where have I heard this before ??

Hinc · 01-18-2005, 02:51 PM

Hmmm well, surfing around...i´ve seen lots of sites who´s borrowing material and seemingly gets away with it...even with the usual billing co´s etc. No clue if thats the case for mrskin.com (i mostly recoqnise it if its fetish material).

When i see my own stuff, i usually ask them to remove...but i dont have the ressources to do anything for real. Maybe we should start a "borrowing sites"-thread or something to see them all...theirs loads.

sickkittens · 01-18-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

Yes as long as you review the scene or pic it's legal under the fair use act.

Yeah, but he's making money off of the content. It's more of working deals with producers/studios, etc..

flashfire · 01-18-2005, 03:00 PM

he obviously knows what hes doing, there's always loopholes

01-18-2005, 05:39 AM	#1
mike503 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: oregon. Posts: 2,243	how can mrskin.com still exist? i understand there's a lot of sites out there which push the envelope on trademark/copyright issues, or anything on the legal front. i was under the impression that the only way his site can survive is if: 1) his server(s) are in a country that does not enforce copyright laws 2) his processor(s) do not have rules against copyrighted content and/or reside in the same countries as (1) examining it closer, it appears that his site is hosted in the US, and he also lists ccbill as one of his processors. does ccbill allow processing to sites that post copyrighted material (such as screencaps and such pulled from movies?) - i know that a friend of mine wanted to "legitimately" buy licenses for some celebrity photos to put on his site and soem photographers wanted something like up to $250 per image... i'm very curious on this subject. i could be missing out because i was misinformed... either way, props to him (i believe he posts on here, i think i've seen his name once in my very infrequent visits nowadays...) for making his site so big and successful. __________________ php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

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Hinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,577	Hmmm well, surfing around...i´ve seen lots of sites who´s borrowing material and seemingly gets away with it...even with the usual billing co´s etc. No clue if thats the case for mrskin.com (i mostly recoqnise it if its fetish material). When i see my own stuff, i usually ask them to remove...but i dont have the ressources to do anything for real. Maybe we should start a "borrowing sites"-thread or something to see them all...theirs loads. __________________ webmaster @ adultlist. com AdultList.com - Directory Listings, Advertisements, Hardlinks Loasex.com - Directory and old school TGP - taking submits A few sales/opportunities: High Quality Guest Posts For Sale Network of Aged sites for sales. Get in touch on the email above for info.

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