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newbreed · 01-13-2005, 05:38 AM

Why are some registrars faster at DNS changes than others? And isn't it supposed to be almost instatnt now? Or is that only with some places and not others?

Thanks,
Bill

nige · 01-13-2005, 05:44 AM

There are no stupid questions.

Furious_Female · 01-13-2005, 06:01 AM

It depends where they are located and who they are. People in less populated etc areas update slower... the fastest updates are in Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, Atlanta, Denver, NY, and Houston... where most backbones are and where sprints sonet rings are.

newbreed · 01-13-2005, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female

It depends where they are located and who they are. People in less populated etc areas update slower... the fastest updates are in Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, Atlanta, Danver, NY, and Houston... where most backbones are and where sprints sonet rings are.

Makes sense. Thanks FF

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female

It depends where they are located and who they are. People in less populated etc areas update slower... the fastest updates are in Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, Atlanta, Denver, NY, and Houston... where most backbones are and where sprints sonet rings are.

that fucking rocks.
It depends on the weather too man, when its rainy internet goes slower

Furious_Female · 01-13-2005, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

that fucking rocks.
It depends on the weather too man, when its rainy internet goes slower

What's so funny?

newbreed · 01-13-2005, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

that fucking rocks.
It depends on the weather too man, when its rainy internet goes slower

I understood it as some servers update faster than others depending on where they are.

s9ann0 · 01-13-2005, 06:19 AM

it is realtime I dunno why some are slower maybe their own systems are lame

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by newbreed

I understood it as some servers update faster than others depending on where they are.

, thats right
some update in 10 miliseconds and some in 20 miliseconds depending on their
location

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 06:23 AM

It depends on each ones policy and on their volumes.
.com and .net (and some other unknown tlds like .info) should be almost instant (around 5 minutes, we can call that "instant" compared to what it was before).
Altho they get pushed into the root servers faster than before, the whois
info its still as slow as before.

newbreed · 01-13-2005, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

, thats right
some update in 10 miliseconds and some in 20 miliseconds depending on their
location

OK, then tell me why at Register it took about 3 hours and at Godaddy it's been more than 12 with no change yet?

xlogger · 01-13-2005, 06:25 AM

it still take me fucking 48 hours with NETWORK SOLUTIONS!! And im paying $50/year for a domain.

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by newbreed

OK, then tell me why at Register it took about 3 hours and at Godaddy it's been more than 12 with no change yet?

because they both suck, I get 5 minutes with directnic

newbreed · 01-13-2005, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

because they both suck, I get 5 minutes with directnic

Thanks so much for not having an educated answer

Furious_Female · 01-13-2005, 06:31 AM

What I said above is a partial answer. Not all registrars update at the same intervals and internet congestion etc.

There's not one specific reason.

I'm tired

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by newbreed

Thanks so much for not having an educated answer

I gave you the answer above, you just need to open your eyes.

newbreed · 01-13-2005, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

I gave you the answer above, you just need to open your eyes.

Your first answer in this thread was to my first question, maybe you should open your eyes. The answer I quoted was to my second question...

Napolean · 01-13-2005, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female

What I said above is a partial answer. Not all registrars update at the same intervals and internet congestion etc.

There's not one specific reason.

I'm tired

your answer was good.. theres just some people with an overwhelming urge to feel smarter, so they have to try to bring other people down

but it backfires

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 06:37 AM

Ok, let me quote it for you. That answers your second question if you keep
your eyes wide open

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Originally Posted by darksoul

It depends on each ones policy and on their volumes.

newbreed · 01-13-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

Ok, let me quote it for you. That answers your second question if you keep
your eyes wide open

Your answer to my second question (which I might add you even quoted before you made you response) was...

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Originally Posted by darksoul

because they both suck, I get 5 minutes with directnic

Case closed.

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 06:42 AM

I didn't felt I have to repeat to you what I just said.
Looks I was wrong.

Furious_Female · 01-13-2005, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Napolean

your answer was good.. theres just some people with an overwhelming urge to feel smarter, so they have to try to bring other people down

but it backfires

Lets face it nappy... I'm the stoopid in the MooP family

lol

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female

Lets face it nappy... I'm the stoopid in the MooP family

lol

I took it as a joke, dont tell me you were serious about it.

Furious_Female · 01-13-2005, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

I took it as a joke, dont tell me you were serious about it.

I was serious

BackToMine · 01-13-2005, 06:57 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_...NS_in_practice

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BackToMine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_...NS_in_practice

altho it might sound weird thats sligthly

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female

I was serious

oops. thats a bit sad.
Next time you can skip the "areas" argument because
they're all located around the same areas.

BackToMine · 01-13-2005, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

altho it might sound weird thats sligthly

Is it?
I thought this was about the time it takes for DNS changes to propogate to all the DNS servers.

If it is, sorry

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Caching and Time To Live

Because of the huge volume of requests generated by a system like the DNS, the designers wished to provide a mechanism to reduce the load on individual DNS servers. The mechanism devised provided that when a DNS resolver (i.e. client) received a DNS response, it would cache that response for a given period of time. A value (set by the administrator of the DNS server handing our the response) called the time to live, or TTL defines that period of time. Once a response goes into cache, the resolver will consult its cached (stored) answer; only when the TTL expires (or until an administrator manually flushes the response from the resolver's memory) will the resolver contact the DNS server for the same information.

Propagation time

An important consequence of this distributed and caching architecture is that changes to the DNS are not necessarily immediately effective globally. This is best explained with an example: If an administrator has set a TTL of 6 hours for the host www.wikipedia.org, and then changes the IP address to which www.wikipedia.org resolves at 12:01pm, the administrator must consider that a person who cached a response with the old value at 12:00pm will not consult the DNS server again until 6:00pm. The period between 12:01pm and 6:00pm in this example is called propagation time, which is best defined as a period of time that begins between whenever you make a change to a DNS record, and ends after the maximum amount of time specified by the TTL expires. This essentially leads to an important logistical consideration when making changes to the DNS: not everyone is necessarily seeing the same thing you're seeing. RFC1537 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1537.txt) helps setting it.

Furious_Female · 01-13-2005, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

oops. thats a bit sad.
Next time you can skip the "areas" argument because
they're all located around the same areas.

I was initially answering a different question... I didn't read the registrar part.

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female

I was initially answering a different question... I didn't read the registrar part.

its all cool

darksoul · 01-13-2005, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BackToMine

I thought this was about the time it takes for DNS changes to propogate to all the DNS servers.

looks its about the time it takes the registars to push the changes in the root dns servers, slightly different.

BackToMine · 01-13-2005, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

looks its about the time it takes the registars to push the changes in the root dns servers, slightly different.

oh the registrars!
sorry i was skim reading

Furious_Female · 01-13-2005, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BackToMine

oh the registrars!
sorry i was skim reading

So was I lol

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