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  • newbreed
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    • Nov 2003
    • 9898

    #1

    Stupid DNS question...

    Why are some registrars faster at DNS changes than others? And isn't it supposed to be almost instatnt now? Or is that only with some places and not others?

    Thanks,
    Bill

    Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
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  • nige
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    • Feb 2002
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    #2
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    • Furious_Female
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      • Oct 2002
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      #3
      It depends where they are located and who they are. People in less populated etc areas update slower... the fastest updates are in Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, Atlanta, Denver, NY, and Houston... where most backbones are and where sprints sonet rings are.
      Last edited by Furious_Female; 01-13-2005, 04:04 AM.
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      • newbreed
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        • Nov 2003
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        #4
        Originally posted by Furious_Female
        It depends where they are located and who they are. People in less populated etc areas update slower... the fastest updates are in Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, Atlanta, Danver, NY, and Houston... where most backbones are and where sprints sonet rings are.
        Makes sense. Thanks FF

        Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
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        • darksoul
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          • Apr 2002
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          #5
          Originally posted by Furious_Female
          It depends where they are located and who they are. People in less populated etc areas update slower... the fastest updates are in Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, Atlanta, Denver, NY, and Houston... where most backbones are and where sprints sonet rings are.


          that fucking rocks.
          It depends on the weather too man, when its rainy internet goes slower
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          • Furious_Female
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            #6
            Originally posted by darksoul

            that fucking rocks.
            It depends on the weather too man, when its rainy internet goes slower
            What's so funny?
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            • newbreed
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              • Nov 2003
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              #7
              Originally posted by darksoul

              that fucking rocks.
              It depends on the weather too man, when its rainy internet goes slower
              I understood it as some servers update faster than others depending on where they are.

              Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
              I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
              fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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              • s9ann0
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                • Sep 2001
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                #8
                it is realtime I dunno why some are slower maybe their own systems are lame

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                • darksoul
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                  • Apr 2002
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by newbreed
                  I understood it as some servers update faster than others depending on where they are.
                  , thats right
                  some update in 10 miliseconds and some in 20 miliseconds depending on their
                  location
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                  • darksoul
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                    • Apr 2002
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                    #10
                    It depends on each ones policy and on their volumes.
                    .com and .net (and some other unknown tlds like .info) should be almost instant (around 5 minutes, we can call that "instant" compared to what it was before).
                    Altho they get pushed into the root servers faster than before, the whois
                    info its still as slow as before.
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                    • newbreed
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                      • Nov 2003
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by darksoul
                      , thats right
                      some update in 10 miliseconds and some in 20 miliseconds depending on their
                      location

                      OK, then tell me why at Register it took about 3 hours and at Godaddy it's been more than 12 with no change yet?

                      Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                      I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                      fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                      • xlogger
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                        • Jul 2004
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                        #12
                        it still take me fucking 48 hours with NETWORK SOLUTIONS!! And im paying $50/year for a domain.

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                        • darksoul
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by newbreed
                          OK, then tell me why at Register it took about 3 hours and at Godaddy it's been more than 12 with no change yet?
                          because they both suck, I get 5 minutes with directnic
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                          • newbreed
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by darksoul
                            because they both suck, I get 5 minutes with directnic

                            Thanks so much for not having an educated answer

                            Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                            I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                            fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                            • Furious_Female
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                              • Oct 2002
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                              #15
                              What I said above is a partial answer. Not all registrars update at the same intervals and internet congestion etc.

                              There's not one specific reason.

                              I'm tired
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                              • darksoul
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by newbreed
                                Thanks so much for not having an educated answer
                                I gave you the answer above, you just need to open your eyes.
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                                • newbreed
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by darksoul
                                  I gave you the answer above, you just need to open your eyes.
                                  Your first answer in this thread was to my first question, maybe you should open your eyes. The answer I quoted was to my second question...

                                  Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
                                  I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
                                  fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                  • Napolean
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                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 4327

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                    What I said above is a partial answer. Not all registrars update at the same intervals and internet congestion etc.

                                    There's not one specific reason.

                                    I'm tired
                                    your answer was good.. theres just some people with an overwhelming urge to feel smarter, so they have to try to bring other people down

                                    but it backfires
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                                    • darksoul
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                                      #19
                                      Ok, let me quote it for you. That answers your second question if you keep
                                      your eyes wide open

                                      Originally posted by darksoul
                                      It depends on each ones policy and on their volumes.
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                                      • newbreed
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by darksoul
                                        Ok, let me quote it for you. That answers your second question if you keep
                                        your eyes wide open

                                        Your answer to my second question (which I might add you even quoted before you made you response) was...

                                        Originally posted by darksoul
                                        because they both suck, I get 5 minutes with directnic

                                        Case closed.

                                        Loryn ‎(3:16 PM):
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                                        fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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                                        • darksoul
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                                          #21
                                          I didn't felt I have to repeat to you what I just said.
                                          Looks I was wrong.
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                                          • Furious_Female
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Napolean
                                            your answer was good.. theres just some people with an overwhelming urge to feel smarter, so they have to try to bring other people down

                                            but it backfires
                                            Lets face it nappy... I'm the stoopid in the MooP family lol
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                                            • darksoul
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                              Lets face it nappy... I'm the stoopid in the MooP family lol
                                              I took it as a joke, dont tell me you were serious about it.
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                                              • Furious_Female
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by darksoul
                                                I took it as a joke, dont tell me you were serious about it.
                                                I was serious
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                                                • BackToMine
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                                                  #25
                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_...NS_in_practice

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                                                  • darksoul
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                                                    #26
                                                    altho it might sound weird thats sligthly
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                                                    • darksoul
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                      I was serious
                                                      oops. thats a bit sad.
                                                      Next time you can skip the "areas" argument because
                                                      they're all located around the same areas.
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                                                      • BackToMine
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by darksoul
                                                        altho it might sound weird thats sligthly
                                                        Is it?
                                                        I thought this was about the time it takes for DNS changes to propogate to all the DNS servers.

                                                        If it is, sorry

                                                        Caching and Time To Live

                                                        Because of the huge volume of requests generated by a system like the DNS, the designers wished to provide a mechanism to reduce the load on individual DNS servers. The mechanism devised provided that when a DNS resolver (i.e. client) received a DNS response, it would cache that response for a given period of time. A value (set by the administrator of the DNS server handing our the response) called the time to live, or TTL defines that period of time. Once a response goes into cache, the resolver will consult its cached (stored) answer; only when the TTL expires (or until an administrator manually flushes the response from the resolver's memory) will the resolver contact the DNS server for the same information.

                                                        Propagation time

                                                        An important consequence of this distributed and caching architecture is that changes to the DNS are not necessarily immediately effective globally. This is best explained with an example: If an administrator has set a TTL of 6 hours for the host www.wikipedia.org, and then changes the IP address to which www.wikipedia.org resolves at 12:01pm, the administrator must consider that a person who cached a response with the old value at 12:00pm will not consult the DNS server again until 6:00pm. The period between 12:01pm and 6:00pm in this example is called propagation time, which is best defined as a period of time that begins between whenever you make a change to a DNS record, and ends after the maximum amount of time specified by the TTL expires. This essentially leads to an important logistical consideration when making changes to the DNS: not everyone is necessarily seeing the same thing you're seeing. RFC1537 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1537.txt) helps setting it.

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                                                        • Furious_Female
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by darksoul
                                                          oops. thats a bit sad.
                                                          Next time you can skip the "areas" argument because
                                                          they're all located around the same areas.
                                                          I was initially answering a different question... I didn't read the registrar part.
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                                                          • darksoul
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                            I was initially answering a different question... I didn't read the registrar part.
                                                            its all cool
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                                                            • darksoul
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BackToMine
                                                              I thought this was about the time it takes for DNS changes to propogate to all the DNS servers.
                                                              looks its about the time it takes the registars to push the changes in the root dns servers, slightly different.
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                                                              • BackToMine
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by darksoul
                                                                looks its about the time it takes the registars to push the changes in the root dns servers, slightly different.
                                                                oh the registrars!
                                                                sorry i was skim reading

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                                                                • Furious_Female
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BackToMine
                                                                  oh the registrars!
                                                                  sorry i was skim reading
                                                                  So was I lol
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