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Old 01-12-2005, 10:20 AM   #1
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Ask me (Brad Shaw) anything for the few hours about Executive Stats

I am not a programmer or a tech guy, but I will do the best I can to answer or get the answer.


Fire away.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:20 AM   #2
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:21 AM   #3
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Are you better then nats?
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Do you feel that any affiliate software that could or has been produced would 100% stop any way of Sponsors shaving their affiliates, and be able to claim that ?
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:24 AM   #6
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What can a major sponsor say to me to convince me that if I used your program you wouldn't harvest the email addresses of my members and use them to promote your own programs?

Or is that the incentive to create such software?
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:25 AM   #7
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BradShaw, my question to you is can you please see sig?
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:25 AM   #8
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New users of Executive Stats must be pretty low.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:25 AM   #9
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Are you better then nats?

Our fraud protection is better than NATS IMHO. Running a PPS program for 5+ years I know how important fraud protection is. ES has saved me over $10k a month by flagging fraud webmasters who had slipped through the cracks in the past. The rest of the software is as good if not better IMHO.

We also offer a high end solution for $25k with the code. Anyone who runs a large webmaster program can understand the benefit of having the code for customization. Without the code, you have to rely on others.

Are we a good solution for Johnny webmaster who just does 10 joins a day, no.

With that said, NATS is good. They have done a great job marketing, and I have heard VERY few complaints about the system.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:26 AM   #10
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Do you feel that any affiliate software that could or has been produced would 100% stop any way of Sponsors shaving their affiliates, and be able to claim that ?

No, nor do we make any claims about shaving that we can not back up. Other than to say if we catch someone shaving, we will kill their license. Period.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:28 AM   #11
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I am not a programmer or a tech guy, but I will do the best I can to answer or get the answer.


Fire away.
Did the little talk with Q formerly from TopBucks a long time ago about fraud control have any bearing on your product release as we know it today? Congrats, BTW :-)
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:28 AM   #12
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What can a major sponsor say to me to convince me that if I used your program you wouldn't harvest the email addresses of my members and use them to promote your own programs?

Or is that the incentive to create such software?

Your emails are already being sold off by your credit card processors, trust me. If you buy the code, you can lock us out of the system totally. Other than that, you have to trust who you do business with and protect yourself within the license agreement.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:30 AM   #13
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Did the little talk with Q formerly from TopBucks a long time ago about fraud control have any bearing on your product release as we know it today? Congrats, BTW :-)

We have worked with other large programs for years to prevent fraud. All of these talks are incorporated into ES. The one thing we have that none of the other affiliate solutions can offer is experience. We have been in business for 8 years, buying traffic for 7. I have been burned by fraud many times over the years, and have taken each time as a learning experience. Let my mistakes save you $. The fraud protection in the software would pay for itself. $25k in fraud is a small % for someone doing 100's of joins a day.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:34 AM   #14
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Your emails are already being sold off by your credit card processors, trust me.
I'm going to put my fingers in my ears and scream "Na Na Na Na Na Na Na" and not listen to that because I don't want to hear it. I've heard this said many many times but don't want to believe it, particularly with CCBill. I don't think CCBill would do such a thing.

BUT, if they do, someone hit me up with a price list.

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If you buy the code, you can lock us out of the system totally. Other than that, you have to trust who you do business with and protect yourself within the license agreement.
It seems to me that if a processor would do it, a major sponsor like yourself would do it. Not only can you sell your new affiliate software to webmasters but you can then harvest the email addresses of all their members and promote your own sites to those members.

I guess what I'm saying is that I am a suspicious person, which is why I continue to stick with using CCBill's affiliate software. I trust them.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:37 AM   #15
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I will not comment on the availability of CCBILL lists. But I will say that through my experience every processor list over the years has been compromised.

Unfortunately, this is a DIRTY little secret. I know that our seed joins from the past get slammed with mail.
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I'm going to put my fingers in my ears and scream "Na Na Na Na Na Na Na" and not listen to that because I don't want to hear it. I've heard this said many many times but don't want to believe it, particularly with CCBill. I don't think CCBill would do such a thing.

BUT, if they do, someone hit me up with a price list.
... I trust them.
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We have worked with other large programs for years to prevent fraud. All of these talks are incorporated into ES. The one thing we have that none of the other affiliate solutions can offer is experience. We have been in business for 8 years, buying traffic for 7. I have been burned by fraud many times over the years, and have taken each time as a learning experience. Let my mistakes save you $. The fraud protection in the software would pay for itself. $25k in fraud is a small % for someone doing 100's of joins a day.
Now that the cannon fodder is out of the way, can you answer the question please :-)
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It seems to me that if a processor would do it, a major sponsor like yourself would do it.
.. and especially somebody that is thought to be a schmuck and overall shady individual by many... I wouldn't even trust my phone number with Brad shaw
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:40 AM   #19
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I am aware of the big drama in the past when a CCBill employee broke into the system and sold lists (unfortunately I heard about it AFTER it happened and wasn't able to make a purchase myself ). But that person is no longer with them and the hole was plugged. This happened at least 2 years ago from what I recall.

I really don't think CCBill sells lists. If there is one company that can be trusted in this business it is CCBill.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:43 AM   #20
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.. and especially somebody that is thought to be a schmuck and overall shady individual by many... I wouldn't even trust my phone number with Brad shaw
When your sig went away for awhile I was hoping it was for good. God damn I hate looking at that...

People not liking it is exactly why it's there, I'm sure.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:45 AM   #21
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.. and especially somebody that is thought to be a schmuck and overall shady individual by many... I wouldn't even trust my phone number with Brad shaw

Kman, only people who can afford the software should post in this thread. Get along on your rickshaw.
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Brad,

A. theres a typo in your banner, see sig.
B. your banner animates too fast.
C. is ES constructed with the same attitude?
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Kman, only people who can afford the software should post in this thread. Get along on your rickshaw.
I've never sold my signature for money, have you?
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Kman, only people who can afford the software should post in this thread. Get along on your rickshaw.
and FYI the only vehicle I currently own is a top-of-the-line, fully automatic $1100 scooter, mind you.
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I don't have any questions regarding ES. But I can say I liked the interface, it's quite extensive

I also found couple of things you could do to make it even better.

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A. theres a typo in your banner, see sig.
B. your banner animates too fast.
C. is ES constructed with the same attitude?

Check out the demo and decide for yourself. Spelling has never been one of strong points. But making $ is. ES will not help your spelling, but it will make you more $.
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I don't have any questions regarding ES. But I can say I liked the interface, it's quite extensive

I also found couple of things you could do to make it even better.
Glad you like it.

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What can a major sponsor say to me to convince me that if I used your program you wouldn't harvest the email addresses of my members and use them to promote your own programs?

Or is that the incentive to create such software?

Word! That was the first thing that crossed my mind!
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Check out the demo and decide for yourself. Spelling has never been one of strong points. But making $ is. ES will not help your spelling, but it will make you more $.
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Do you think your software is worth 25k? (vs hiring our own programmers - what I normally do)
Can I see an actual demo and not just screen shots?
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Retired;-)

If I was banned, Lensman would not accept my advertising or allow me to promote my new product. I respect the fact that he does not want me marketing my board here and life goes on.
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Nice, i am actually impressed by something you have made. You are now above 0%
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Are you still afraid to give me a demo?

Greg is doing demos over the phone. He has been doing these non stop for 2 days. When things slow down we will address your request. My goal is to take care of customers first.
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I don't think any processor sells lists. Employees are a whole different story.
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Glad you like it.
Brad, hit me up on icq 252081 or call the phone number that's on account 4889. It's semi urgent, for you.
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Do you think your software is worth 25k? (vs hiring our own programmers - what I normally do)
Can I see an actual demo and not just screen shots?
I would say it is. I've seen the demo and I've bought the stats from him. Like him or not ES is a great product from SIC.

Oh and to all of you that don't think lists ever get out from processors... you're kidding yourselves right? This was something I have seen first hand but not with the processors I'm currently using.
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Do you think your software is worth 25k? (vs hiring our own programmers - what I normally do)
Can I see an actual demo and not just screen shots?
Believe me, this cost a lot more than $25k to create. Originally I set out to create software just to use myself,to replace the high rollers crap we were running. This was over 2 years ago, and well into 6 figures $ spent.

Also, you have to take into consideration the time it takes to write. If someone needs software today, they need it. They can not wait months for their programmers to write it.

Swedeguy, your sales rep will be in touch. Log in to your stats, there is a phone # and ICQ right there. I do not handle webmaster support.
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BTW, I never liked Ron Levi, but I paid $50k for high rollers software that made me millions.
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What can a major sponsor say to me to convince me that if I used your program you wouldn't harvest the email addresses of my members and use them to promote your own programs?

Or is that the incentive to create such software?
LOL that reminded me about the whole "bad list" of email addresses Brad Shaw bough from KB long time ago, and he kept bitching about it on and on and on..lol (it was even posted here)
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Swedeguy, your sales rep will be in touch. Log in to your stats, there is a phone # and ICQ right there. I do not handle webmaster support.
It has nothing to do with webmaster support!
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Old 01-12-2005, 03:42 PM   #47
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Okay...So you sell the source...

How would you know if a sponsor was cheating?

At this point I feel better trusing NATS programs as they don't sell the source...So how can someone modify it to shave?

You say you would kill a license of a shaver...But if they can completely lock you out...How would you know they were shaving?

Isn't the point of all these new admin programs is to prevent cheating on the programs from webmasters and give some confidence to the webmasters using the sponsors? As we all know these days every fucken sponsor will rip ya in a heartbeat if they think they can...

So I've decided at this point to only use NATS sponsors...Tell me why I should use sponsors who use your software? As I don't feel as comfortable knowing they can modify the code...

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Old 01-12-2005, 04:19 PM   #48
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Okay...So you sell the source...

How would you know if a sponsor was cheating?

At this point I feel better trusing NATS programs as they don't sell the source...So how can someone modify it to shave?

You say you would kill a license of a shaver...But if they can completely lock you out...How would you know they were shaving?
Exactly what I was thinking when I see such claims being made.

IMO NATS is still over rated, and the "no shaving" feature is just a marketing ploy to heighten their existence and heighten such software.

I still believe in trust and strong relationships Vs fancy 3rd party software.
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Old 01-12-2005, 04:35 PM   #49
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I am just trying to understand...As I am a programmer...How software companies can back up their claims on the webmaster side of things...If they are "Locked" out of the system once they buy the software...

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Old 01-12-2005, 04:40 PM   #50
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We have checks and balances in place to watch for affiliates abusing the software (shaving). I will not go into specifics.

99% of the big pps programs use their own code, it is almost impossible to run a large program with the constraints of compiled code. If you really think NATS is shave proof and you only want to send your traffic there, I am not going to argue with your short sidedness.

The average webmaster really does not understand shaving. It is an easy excuse for a shitty sales day. I am not saying people do not shave, look at Perfection Cash, they got caught red handed.
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