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Old 01-03-2005, 06:26 PM   #1
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Fuck If This Doesn't Piss You Off As A Taxpayer Nothing Will

The US Justice system is fucking ridiculous.


Nichols Case Defense Costs Taxpayers More Than $4 Million

OKLAHOMA CITY - Oklahoma taxpayers spent almost $4.2 million to provide a defense for bombing conspirator Terry Nichols, paying for such things as books, seminars, lawn care, coffee sweetener and an alarm system.

Expenses filed by court-appointed defense attorney Brian Hermanson included $28.05 so Nichols could read the book, "The American Terrorist," an account of the life of Oklahoma City bombing mastermind Timothy McVeigh (news - web sites).

A $300 claim was filed for lawn care costs for one of the defense attorneys, whose $750-a-month rental house in McAlester was paid for by taxpayers during Nichols' trial. Coffee sweetener that cost $3.99 was among the other claims filed.

One claim filed by Hermanson in 2002 was for $2,742 to install an alarm system in his Ponca City law office. Other claims were for cleaning Nichols' clothing, buying him shoes, a shirt and paying for his stamps.

The state paid $50.19 for a law dictionary for Nichols. Hermanson also filed a claim for the best-selling book, "The Secret Life of Bees."

Other claims went for such things as cell phones for lawyers and investigators, cab fare, legal seminars, newspaper subscriptions, renting a storage unit, buying a vacuum cleaner and business cards.



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Old 01-03-2005, 06:26 PM   #2
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Old 01-03-2005, 06:27 PM   #3
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No i think the billions we are spending in Iraq is pissing me off more.
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Old 01-03-2005, 06:27 PM   #4
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Old 01-03-2005, 06:28 PM   #5
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Old 01-03-2005, 07:40 PM   #6
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Old 01-03-2005, 07:42 PM   #7
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Old 01-03-2005, 07:43 PM   #8
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Sounds almost as bad as Canadian justice...100 million plus spent of taxpayers dollars on some pig farmer who murdered 40 or so prostitutes..The trial hasn't even started yet...it's all gathering evidense and lawyers fees...fucking ridiculous
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Old 01-03-2005, 07:43 PM   #9
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Old 01-03-2005, 08:27 PM   #10
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Old 01-03-2005, 08:34 PM   #11
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No i think the billions we are spending in Iraq is pissing me off more.

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Old 01-03-2005, 08:56 PM   #13
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Old 01-03-2005, 09:12 PM   #14
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That's what happens when you pay into a system backed my a nonexistent law...........

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Old 01-03-2005, 09:24 PM   #15
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The US Justice system is fucking ridiculous.


Nichols Case Defense Costs Taxpayers More Than $4 Million

OKLAHOMA CITY - Oklahoma taxpayers spent almost $4.2 million to provide a defense for bombing conspirator Terry Nichols, paying for such things as books, seminars, lawn care, coffee sweetener and an alarm system.

Expenses filed by court-appointed defense attorney Brian Hermanson included $28.05 so Nichols could read the book, "The American Terrorist," an account of the life of Oklahoma City bombing mastermind Timothy McVeigh (news - web sites).

A $300 claim was filed for lawn care costs for one of the defense attorneys, whose $750-a-month rental house in McAlester was paid for by taxpayers during Nichols' trial. Coffee sweetener that cost $3.99 was among the other claims filed.

One claim filed by Hermanson in 2002 was for $2,742 to install an alarm system in his Ponca City law office. Other claims were for cleaning Nichols' clothing, buying him shoes, a shirt and paying for his stamps.

The state paid $50.19 for a law dictionary for Nichols. Hermanson also filed a claim for the best-selling book, "The Secret Life of Bees."

Other claims went for such things as cell phones for lawyers and investigators, cab fare, legal seminars, newspaper subscriptions, renting a storage unit, buying a vacuum cleaner and business cards.



I very well might be wrong here...but I believe the Nichols trial is a FEDERAL case.
If that is actually the circumstance then how is Nichols and his attourneys any different than B&R...Halliburton in how they use the FED GOVT against itself?
Each state has different laws that apply to fed jurisdiction.
For instance...Michigan does NOT have the death penalty...unless "said" crime happens upon federal land.In which case the Fed.Govt then procecutes/trys for the death penalty under FEDERAL LAW.
Which then brings a grab bag of "options" as a defendant.
Even if your STATE HAS the death penalty...if the FED GOVT decides to prosecute under thier jurisdiction...well...even cut and dry cases get a bit "funkey".
I am no expert...so I may be wrong here... but I have many friends who discuss this stuff often.
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Old 01-03-2005, 09:25 PM   #16
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Old 01-03-2005, 09:43 PM   #17
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I very well might be wrong here...but I believe the Nichols trial is a FEDERAL case.
If that is actually the circumstance then how is Nichols and his attourneys any different than B&R...Halliburton in how they use the FED GOVT against itself?
Each state has different laws that apply to fed jurisdiction.
For instance...Michigan does NOT have the death penalty...unless "said" crime happens upon federal land.In which case the Fed.Govt then procecutes/trys for the death penalty under FEDERAL LAW.
Which then brings a grab bag of "options" as a defendant.
Even if your STATE HAS the death penalty...if the FED GOVT decides to prosecute under thier jurisdiction...well...even cut and dry cases get a bit "funkey".
I am no expert...so I may be wrong here... but I have many friends who discuss this stuff often.

The Federal Govt has already prosecuted Nichols and he was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison. The state of Oklahoma is now prosecuting him trying to get the death penalty.
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Old 01-03-2005, 09:44 PM   #18
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That's what happens when you pay into a system backed my a nonexistent law...........

See for yourself
Yeh everyone knows that, but they don't care, they are The Law.

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Old 01-03-2005, 09:52 PM   #19
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Here is another one that you will love.
If a cuban with a green card has been arrested for a felony, no matter what kind it is, the Dept of Homeland security is going to their home or place of business and arresting them. It does not matter when the crime was, or what the out come of the case. Even if it was dismissed. Then they take them to jail and hold them at the tax payers expense until they can see a Judge. Usually 90 or maor days. The judge issues them a deportation order, and then they have to do a mandatory 90 days while they try to deport them. But due to the current laws involving Cuba, ( THEY CAN NOT DEPORT THEM!!! ) Of course there is not credit for the time they served. So they do the second 90 days, and then they let them go with the deportation order, and on probation for INS. So they now have to go seen an INS officer every 30 days.

Sonce they know that they can not deport them, why the fuck do we have to pay to have them held in jail.??
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Old 01-03-2005, 10:17 PM   #20
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