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Kevsh · 12-29-2004, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

You know how many Americans are rotting in Mexican jails for YEARS without trial or their families even knwing whether they are dead or alive? And Mexico is suppossed to be our friend. Imagine the less friendly countries. Not to mention the food and water standards in most other countries is much worse than in the US.

Hell I've never been west of the Mississippi River. Once again, no desire too,

2 things:
1) You just proved the original post's point: the fact that you have no desire to leave your country (or state) is likely because you've been led to believe you live in the greatest place on earth ... not to mention your comment about food and water standards elsewhere being inferior is the kind of ignorance the post was talking about.

(In fact, based on the remark about the "big one" hitting CA as your prime reason for not going there to visit suggests a paranoid delusional trait you may want to get looked at)

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Originally Posted by GatorB

You know how many Americans are rotting in Mexican jails for YEARS without trial or their families even knwing whether they are dead or alive? And Mexico is suppossed to be our friend.

2) You know how many (innocent) Americans are/were rotting in Guantanamo Bay for YEARS without trial or their families even knwing whether they are dead or alive? And America is suppossed to be their home.

Violetta · 12-29-2004, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Imagine that!

I thought we were doing alright, Rock

hehe... Yeah man!

Martina Warren · 12-30-2004, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Okay, my bad, I did say that was the length of CA . . . I also said I did not measure the exact distance from the Netherlands to Romainia . . . how many miles is that?

Roughly 1350 miles

baddog · 12-30-2004, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

I think the point Baddog is trying to make in comparing the size of the US and the size of Europe is that if you are low on funds you can still travel through Europe and visit many other countries for instance using something like a Eurail pass if they still have those.

However for an American to decide they want to travel on the cheap it takes a much bigger committment to visit other countries continents.

$1,000's even.

I've done a lot of US travel and have lived in many different states and just my brief excursions about the US have broadened my thinking to some degree. I can imagine travelling the world would just be astounding. But once again it can definitely be cost prohibitive for us.

Thank you.

Sure, some Euro trash can graduate highschool and hitchhike across Europe and be an International traveler. Lots of high school graduates here travel across the states for the same money, and experience more cultures.

Anyone that doesn't think that different states don't have extremely different cultures has never traveled the USA. And I don't mean in a jet.

baddog · 12-30-2004, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by martina

Roughly 1350 miles

Okay, and CA is about 900 miles long . . . yeah, I was way off wasn't I?

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 02:49 AM

Your figures are wrong.. I can recall when 3 million Americans went to Europe ... Then we gave it back to you ...So you can have a culture. Then 25 years later 40 million Americans went to Europe.. Then we gave it back to you again... So you and your fucked up friends can piss and moan about Americans and the dollar.

Dirty F · 12-30-2004, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper

Your figures are wrong.. I can recall when 3 million Americans went to Europe ... Then we gave it back to you ...So you can have a culture. Then 25 years later 40 million Americans went to Europe.. Then we gave it back to you again... So you and your fucked up friends can piss and moan about Americans and the dollar.

You signed up to post this nonsense? Wow.

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 03:02 AM

No can't rememebr my user name from 2002. I see things have not changed much...

Jakke PNG · 12-30-2004, 03:41 AM

idiots..

who · 12-30-2004, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

maybe you should look at a fucking map sometime.

I can travel the length of California and cover the same as if you went from the Netherlands to Romania.

If I went from CA to FL it would be like you going to Greece.

While I did not measure the exact milage, you get the idea.

I vote this guy for Next President of U.S.A.

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

idiots..

.... Posts: 14,348

Time to stop eating mom's food..

Tipsy · 12-30-2004, 04:42 AM

Nothing new in this thread although some of the people arguing against Battuss make for amusing reading as they prove his point more with every post.

There's two or three in this thread that need to realise fox news and even CNN give a VERY skewed perspective on just about everything. GatorB especially, do yourself a favour and stop believing everything the TV tells you in the US (or any country for that matter just more so in the US). You'll be a better person for it

Joe Citizen · 12-30-2004, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by uproared

I live in Australia.

I'm 19 years old, and I've been overseas about 12 times. In fact, this year alone I've backpacked Europe by myself for 3 months, went to Vietnam, and I just got back from a trip to Bali about 3 weeks ago...

It's more expensive for Australian's to travel than it is for people in the US, PLUS our currency is weaker...yet we continue to enlighten ourselves by travelling overseas and gaining a more 'rounded' perspective of the world (no pun intended).

Cheers

Exactly, it takes a long time and a lot of money to get anywhere from Australia and we are using a weaker currency as well. Australia is one of the world's biggest travelling nations.

Most Americans have no interest in international travel because they have been brainwashed from an early age to believe that the rest of the world has nothing to offer and that the USA is number one in everything.

I've backpacked across every continent and spent more than a year on the road out of the last seven.

Anyone who says that America has as many unique cultures as Europe does is just showing their ignorance. Anyone who has done more than a couple of month in Europe knows this is bullshit.

I travelled from Italy to Germany on a night train last week and those two countries are as different as night and day.

andrej_NDC · 12-30-2004, 05:31 AM

I like all good, polite, non-stupid and non-arrogant people from all over the world, no matter where they come from.

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 05:44 AM

"Most Americans have no interest in international travel because they have been brainwashed from an early age to believe that the rest of the world has nothing to offer and that the USA is number one in everything."

How would you know? Are you American? Have you ever been here? I have traveled 22 different countries and never met an Aussie, SA, Swede, or Candian I did not like. I lived in a Kibbutz for year with people from around the world. I did notice the Dutch, Swiss, and fins are prestigious assholes or momma?s boys. The pimp hand solved that problem.

Jakke PNG · 12-30-2004, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper

.... Posts: 14,348

Time to stop eating mom's food..

The shoe fits eh?

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

The shoe fits eh?

No mom died in 1989.

Jakke PNG · 12-30-2004, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper

No mom died in 1989.

That's intresting.
However I was refering to the 'idiots' posts you replied to.
Unless you didn't notice, it wasn't redirected at anyone..yet you felt the urge to comment.

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

That's intresting.
However I was refering to the 'idiots' posts you replied to.
Unless you didn't notice, it wasn't redirected at anyone..yet you felt the urge to comment.

No I just don't like you.

Jakke PNG · 12-30-2004, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper

No I just don't like you.

Again.. most interesting.

Mikey_219Inc · 12-30-2004, 06:09 AM

i live in florida, and there are a lot of dumb bastards here. i like living in america, its my home, but its chock full of stupid motherfuckers. i dont suppose its any different anywhere else, although from what i know public education is a bit better in some other countries. even the fucking morons ive met in other countries are at the very least bilingual.

ADL Colin · 12-30-2004, 06:11 AM

Kansas City is as different from Miami as Vienna is from Paris.

ADL Colin · 12-30-2004, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikey_219Inc

i live in florida, and there are a lot of dumb bastards here. i like living in america, its my home, but its chock full of stupid motherfuckers. i dont suppose its any different anywhere else, although from what i know public education is a bit better in some other countries. even the fucking morons ive met in other countries are at the very least bilingual.

I live in Miami. I'd say at least half the city is bilingual. Si? ;-)

Jakke PNG · 12-30-2004, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Colin

Kansas City is as different from Miami as Vienna is from Paris.

Big cities are a relatively bad comparison asTokyo and New york probably are quite alike as well.
But I do agree to some extent.
A small town in austria is probably similar to a small town in france, but there is the language differences as well as cultural differences that are larger than 2 small towns in the usa. Also despite Europes small size, each country has a massive amount of history of their own, which most us states can't claim (atleast for such long period). This is purely my opinion though, since I haven't really travelled much inside the usa, nor have I seen many small towns in different states, but I'm presuming this.

I've lived in a small french town for a year, and it is completely different from a similar sized town in italy, but the EURO has brought europe closer together from the time I travelled europe in mid 90's.

ADL Colin · 12-30-2004, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Big cities are a relatively bad comparison asTokyo and New york probably are quite alike as well.
But I do agree to some extent.
A small town in austria is probably similar to a small town in france, but there is the language differences as well as cultural differences that are larger than 2 small towns in the usa. Also despite Europes small size, each country has a massive amount of history of their own, which most us states can't claim (atleast for such long period). This is purely my opinion though, since I haven't really travelled much inside the usa, nor have I seen many small towns in different states, but I'm presuming this.

I've lived in a small french town for a year, and it is completely different from a similar sized town in italy, but the EURO has brought europe closer together from the time I travelled europe in mid 90's.

Miami = Spanish language
Kansas City = English language

;-)

OldJeff · 12-30-2004, 06:54 AM

First Off, Take the smug, I have traveled and seen other countries so I am "enlightened" and shove it up your collective ass. Anyone with an attitude that they are superior to any othe human being is about as far from enlightened as one can get.

The quote of 1% of the population is far to low a guess - I would bet it is closer to 10%, which by the way that 10% of US population EXCEEDS the entire population of most of the countries in Europe.

Of course Europeans are more likely to visit countries other than their own, you can see everything there is to see in most countries in a couple weeks, by the time they are of age they have already seen everything there is in their country. They have to leave if they want to see anything new.

Cost is a big part of it. Even if the price was the same - less American can afford it, they use their money on useful things like Doctor Bills, College Education (you know the things that are free in most of Europe) for their kids, also their time is used working. Americans get less vacation time, and have much longer work weeks than Europeans.

Come down from your high horse, and get over yourself, traveling the would does not make you enlightened, does not give you any more insite in other cultures than can be achived with Google, and it sure as hell does not make you any better than someone that chooses to do what they want to do.

All it means is you have gone to a bunch of places.

Joe Citizen · 12-30-2004, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by uproared

First or Second class? Chair, Couchette or Sleeper?

A horrible six bed couchette on an Italian train in second class.

It felt as though I was sleeping in a coffin.

I'm not in a hurry to do it again.

12clicks · 12-30-2004, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

I dont remember who it was but i liked it so much that i saved it in a text file:

Unlike many other countries in the developed world, where it is almost traditional to travel internationally soon after graduation, most americans will never stray outside their own borders; so they get no real firsthand experience of what the rest of the world is like, and can only form opinions based on what they were taught in school (not much) and what they see on TV (typically biased).

You pledge allegience to the flag every morning in school; proceed to learn about Christopher Columbus, George Washington, Paul Revere, Lewis and Clark, Slavery, the US Civil War, how approxiately a dozen Americans defeated the entire English army, then Hitlers army. And that about sums up all the world history you'll get, at least until college (university), if you attend.

Those with more worldly experience may have visited the 3rd world country below them, Mexico, or (what they consider) the 51st State above them, Canada. Some may consider Hawaii an international destination.

I would guess less than 1% of Americans have gone any further.

I have met a scary number of adults here who think that England is still ruled by the Queen and that the USA is the only country with 'Freedom' or 'Democracy' or toilet paper. They do try to give you that impression.

Call it patriotism or propaganda, but this country is more fanatically in love with itself than any other. It really puts itself on a pedastool. Flags on everything. Declarations of 'Land of the Free, Home of the Brave', 'These Colors Don't Run', and other silly solgans on billboards. Businesses even whore out 911 in radio commercials, using patriotism to push product. Politicans compete with eachother on how many times they can incorporate the phrase 'Greatest Nation On Earth' into their speeches. It would border on bizarre if you weren't so used to it.

So of course, with all that around them, a lot of people believe it.

But all the flag-waving and rhetoric would be no more than annoying, if not for the fact that it is blinding the population to abuses of power. America is not a facist regime Yet. I don't know that it ever could be. But they are certainly putting the tools in place to make that a possibility. And that's far more significant than the particular individual who happens to take office.

to repeat it makes you funny, to believe it makes you an idiot.

Joe Citizen · 12-30-2004, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff

traveling the would does not make you enlightened, does not give you any more insite in other cultures than can be achived with Google

Only someone who has never done any real travel could be capable of spewing such ignorant bullshit.

Manowar · 12-30-2004, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper

I did notice the Dutch, Swiss, and fins are prestigious assholes or momma?s boys. The pimp hand solved that problem.

sweeping generalisation, but you attack people generalising your nation. nice contradiction

Violetta · 12-30-2004, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff

Of course Europeans are more likely to visit countries other than their own, you can see everything there is to see in most countries in a couple weeks, by the time they are of age they have already seen everything there is in their country. They have to leave if they want to see anything new.

Come down from your high horse, and get over yourself, traveling the would does not make you enlightened, does not give you any more insite in other cultures than can be achived with Google, and it sure as hell does not make you any better than someone that chooses to do what they want to do.

All it means is you have gone to a bunch of places.

This is all very good, but I REALLY liked the google part. Keep on surfing boy, and you'll be running for president in 4 years

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

sweeping generalisation, but you attack people generalising your nation. nice contradiction

It's NOT a "sweeping generalisan" when there is a pattern of people you live with for a year.

...nice try.

Kevsh · 12-30-2004, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff

Come down from your high horse, and get over yourself, traveling the would does not make you enlightened, does not give you any more insite in other cultures than can be achived with Google, and it sure as hell does not make you any better than someone that chooses to do what they want to do.

All it means is you have gone to a bunch of places.

You are so far out in left field I do not know where to begin. You mean to suggest that you can learn and appreciate the world's cultures just as well by surfing the 'net as you can by going there?

You correct that traveling the world doesn't make you better but I have been to Russia, Turkey, Fiji, Australia and too many other places to mention. I have learned a LOT. I am far more knowledgeable about the world, it's customs, people and culture and I think I am the better for it - not better than anyone else, but better "informed" than I would be hadn't I left my home.

As for the rest of your post please, tell me you are not this ignorant - it's early in the morning, you've got the flu, you were just joking .. any excuse will do, but this response is so completely baseless and ignorant I have trouble imagining someone with the competence to turn on a pc and type on a keyboard could have wrote it.

12clicks · 12-30-2004, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

You are so far out in left field I do not know where to begin. You mean to suggest that you can learn and appreciate the world's cultures just as well by surfing the 'net as you can by going there?

You correct that traveling the world doesn't make you better but I have been to Russia, Turkey, Fiji, Australia and too many other places to mention. I have learned a LOT. I am far more knowledgeable about the world, it's customs, people and culture and I think I am the better for it - not better than anyone else, but better "informed" than I would be hadn't I left my home.

As for the rest of your post please, tell me you are not this ignorant - it's early in the morning, you've got the flu, you were just joking .. any excuse will do, but this response is so completely baseless and ignorant I have trouble imagining someone with the competence to turn on a pc and type on a keyboard could have wrote it.

I find that people hang their hat on being well travelled when their hat would otherwise fall to the ground looking for an accomplishment. (with a few exceptions)

Kevsh · 12-30-2004, 09:34 AM

Okay, instead of another argumentative post how about this:

The world is an incredible, magnificent place and I pity any soul on his/her deathbed who hasn't seen their fare share of it. If you can still move on your own then I absolutely encourage you to visit a totally different culture than your own (and I don't mean California). And more so, when you are there avoid the Holiday Inn, don't bug the locals asking for the nearest McDonalds, and for god's sakes don't gripe when the tv doesn't pick up Monday Night Football and whine when you realize it's not like your home town. Maybe, you may actually enjoy yourself by trying something new.

(okay, in hindsight that may be a little argumentative...)

12clicks · 12-30-2004, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Okay, instead of another argumentative post how about this:

The world is an incredible, magnificent place and I pity any soul on his/her deathbed who hasn't seen their fare share of it. If you can still move on your own then I absolutely encourage you to visit a totally different culture than your own (and I don't mean California). And more so, when you are there avoid the Holiday Inn, don't bug the locals asking for the nearest McDonalds, and for god's sakes don't gripe when the tv doesn't pick up Monday Night Football and whine when you realize it's not like your home town. Maybe, you may actually enjoy yourself by trying something new.

(okay, in hindsight that may be a little argumentative...)

your silly stereo types are an example of why the US excels in the world.
(hope thats not too argumentative)

Jakke PNG · 12-30-2004, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper

It's NOT a "sweeping generalisan" when there is a pattern of people you live with for a year.

...nice try.

Sweet, where in finland did you live?

Dirty F · 12-30-2004, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Most Americans have no interest in international travel because they have been brainwashed from an early age to believe that the rest of the world has nothing to offer and that the USA is number one in everything.

Exactly!

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 09:57 AM

One of the main reasons "WE" Americans are not that interested in other countries and cultures is because we are the most diverse country on the planet. The US will take the tired, poor, and unwanted from all YOUR countries. Also it pounded in our head daily to be patient with others immigrant cultures. My high school alone was taught in 14 different languages. Please don?t call us Ignorant of other cultures because ALL Americans come from around the globe.

ADL Colin · 12-30-2004, 10:04 AM

I disagree with the premise that Americans think the rest of the world has nothing to offer.

A Harris Poll asked "If you could spend a vacation in any country in the world outside the United States, and you would not have to worry about the cost, what one country would you choose?" Only 7% said they had no desire to travel abroad. (Australia was the top choice).

So there, you're wrong. Because Harris says so.

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Sweet, where in finland did you live?

READ ME POST!

WE ALL lived in a kibbutz for a year.

OldJeff · 12-30-2004, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

This is all very good, but I REALLY liked the google part. Keep on surfing boy, and you'll be running for president in 4 years

I am particularly amused by you calling me boy

Your profile:

Birthday:
April 9, 1980
Interests:
Soccer and Rock
Occupation:
Student, pornsubmitter

I spent 2 years in Europe before you were weened from your mothers tit.

Come back and talk after you move out of mommys house and have lived on your own for a little while.

And FWIW TGP submitter is not an occupation, it is about half a step above porn surfer.

Kevsh · 12-30-2004, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

your silly stereo types are an example of why the US excels in the world.
(hope thats not too argumentative)

How does my silly stereotypes show that the US "excels" in the world? Explain please.

Jakke PNG · 12-30-2004, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper

READ ME POST!

WE ALL lived in a kibbutz for a year.

All of the finns lived there?

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

All of the finns lived there?

god you're a sig whore..

It's NOT a "sweeping generalisation".........

Jakke PNG · 12-30-2004, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper

god you're a sig whore..

It's NOT a "sweeping generalisan".........

Sigwhore? Jealous that I get paid for my sig?

(..or do I get paid?)

Yeah, it *IS* a sweeping generalization. You have met what, almost a dozen finns and you boldly claimed, and let me quote " I did notice the Dutch, Swiss, and fins are prestigious assholes or momma?s boys".. so YOU based YOUR opinion on a few dozen people at most...then you claim others are idiots.
Fucking retard. If you're trying to be funny and act like an idiot, you're doing a top notch job. If not, I feel bad for you.

If I were you I'd go away and register a new nick since this one is now labeled as ignorant asshole. Congrats.

BradM · 12-30-2004, 10:39 AM

This thread is awesome. I finally see everything from 2 perspectives and all I can say is the haters are obviously so blinded by their hate they will argue ANYTHING. Even if they do sound like a bumbling retard.

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 10:41 AM

Thanks for proving my point.. Don't go away mad..just go away.

Jakke PNG · 12-30-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrapper

Thanks for proving my point.. Don't go away mad..just go away.

What point? That YOU judge whole nations based on a few people, yet feel anger when they do the same to you?

Scrapper · 12-30-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

What point? That YOU judge whole nations based on a few people, yet feel anger when they do the same to you?

See you are sig whore.. thought I was on ignore?

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ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	I disagree with the premise that Americans think the rest of the world has nothing to offer. A Harris Poll asked "If you could spend a vacation in any country in the world outside the United States, and you would not have to worry about the cost, what one country would you choose?" Only 7% said they had no desire to travel abroad. (Australia was the top choice). So there, you're wrong. Because Harris says so. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

12-30-2004, 02:49 AM	#106
Scrapper So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sack Masking Your Face Posts: 491	Your figures are wrong.. I can recall when 3 million Americans went to Europe ... Then we gave it back to you ...So you can have a culture. Then 25 years later 40 million Americans went to Europe.. Then we gave it back to you again... So you and your fucked up friends can piss and moan about Americans and the dollar.

12-30-2004, 03:02 AM	#108
Scrapper So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sack Masking Your Face Posts: 491	No can't rememebr my user name from 2002. I see things have not changed much...

12-30-2004, 04:42 AM	#112
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Nothing new in this thread although some of the people arguing against Battuss make for amusing reading as they prove his point more with every post. There's two or three in this thread that need to realise fox news and even CNN give a VERY skewed perspective on just about everything. GatorB especially, do yourself a favour and stop believing everything the TV tells you in the US (or any country for that matter just more so in the US). You'll be a better person for it

12-30-2004, 05:44 AM	#115
Scrapper So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sack Masking Your Face Posts: 491	"Most Americans have no interest in international travel because they have been brainwashed from an early age to believe that the rest of the world has nothing to offer and that the USA is number one in everything." How would you know? Are you American? Have you ever been here? I have traveled 22 different countries and never met an Aussie, SA, Swede, or Candian I did not like. I lived in a Kibbutz for year with people from around the world. I did notice the Dutch, Swiss, and fins are prestigious assholes or momma?s boys. The pimp hand solved that problem.

12-30-2004, 06:09 AM	#121
Mikey_219Inc Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i dont even know ... Posts: 1,876	i live in florida, and there are a lot of dumb bastards here. i like living in america, its my home, but its chock full of stupid motherfuckers. i dont suppose its any different anywhere else, although from what i know public education is a bit better in some other countries. even the fucking morons ive met in other countries are at the very least bilingual.

12-30-2004, 06:54 AM	#126
OldJeff Big Fucking hahahaha Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,096	First Off, Take the smug, I have traveled and seen other countries so I am "enlightened" and shove it up your collective ass. Anyone with an attitude that they are superior to any othe human being is about as far from enlightened as one can get. The quote of 1% of the population is far to low a guess - I would bet it is closer to 10%, which by the way that 10% of US population EXCEEDS the entire population of most of the countries in Europe. Of course Europeans are more likely to visit countries other than their own, you can see everything there is to see in most countries in a couple weeks, by the time they are of age they have already seen everything there is in their country. They have to leave if they want to see anything new. Cost is a big part of it. Even if the price was the same - less American can afford it, they use their money on useful things like Doctor Bills, College Education (you know the things that are free in most of Europe) for their kids, also their time is used working. Americans get less vacation time, and have much longer work weeks than Europeans. Come down from your high horse, and get over yourself, traveling the would does not make you enlightened, does not give you any more insite in other cultures than can be achived with Google, and it sure as hell does not make you any better than someone that chooses to do what they want to do. All it means is you have gone to a bunch of places.

12-30-2004, 09:34 AM	#135
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Okay, instead of another argumentative post how about this: The world is an incredible, magnificent place and I pity any soul on his/her deathbed who hasn't seen their fare share of it. If you can still move on your own then I absolutely encourage you to visit a totally different culture than your own (and I don't mean California). And more so, when you are there avoid the Holiday Inn, don't bug the locals asking for the nearest McDonalds, and for god's sakes don't gripe when the tv doesn't pick up Monday Night Football and whine when you realize it's not like your home town. Maybe, you may actually enjoy yourself by trying something new. (okay, in hindsight that may be a little argumentative...)

12-30-2004, 09:57 AM	#139
Scrapper So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sack Masking Your Face Posts: 491	One of the main reasons "WE" Americans are not that interested in other countries and cultures is because we are the most diverse country on the planet. The US will take the tired, poor, and unwanted from all YOUR countries. Also it pounded in our head daily to be patient with others immigrant cultures. My high school alone was taught in 14 different languages. Please don?t call us Ignorant of other cultures because ALL Americans come from around the globe.

12-30-2004, 10:39 AM	#147
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	This thread is awesome. I finally see everything from 2 perspectives and all I can say is the haters are obviously so blinded by their hate they will argue ANYTHING. Even if they do sound like a bumbling retard.

12-30-2004, 10:41 AM	#148
Scrapper So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sack Masking Your Face Posts: 491	Thanks for proving my point.. Don't go away mad..just go away.