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andrej_NDC · 12-29-2004, 08:10 AM

people who bitch about how high 1,6 x anual income is, dont get the most important point. If you buy a program that makes 100k/month net, doesnt mean you will make that much each month. If you are stupid you will make less, but if you are clever, you can work on the sites, make them better, implement new ideas, get new affiliates, etc etc and make 200, 300k/month...or even more and make the money back very soon.

slapass · 12-29-2004, 08:16 AM

Lets face it the 1.6 takes into account industry risk and also society stigma. You can't go public with these sites. Fewer deep pocket buyers of your old porn site.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

people who bitch about how high 1,6 x anual income is, dont get the most important point. If you buy a program that makes 100k/month net, doesnt mean you will make that much each month. If you are stupid you will make less, but if you are clever, you can work on the sites, make them better, implement new ideas, get new affiliates, etc etc and make 200, 300k/month...or even more and make the money back very soon.

easier said than done.This business is not as easy as you claim for it to be anymore...affiliates are all situated where they want to be situated and getting them to promote new programs is not as easy as you make it appear to be.

andrej_NDC · 12-29-2004, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

easier said than done.This business is not as easy as you claim for it to be anymore...affiliates are all situated where they want to be situated and getting them to promote new programs is not as easy as you make it appear to be.

I didnt say its easy, if it would be that easy, everybody would do it. But its just as all the businesses are, if you are clever, you have no problems at all.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 12-29-2004, 12:41 PM

Marty, why don't you take that money, take the wife buy a little place in Mexico and Retire already.

You have worked your ass off since I have known you for the last 20 years.

I'll take over Videopass for you and send you some funds every month.

Deal?

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Marty, why don't you take that money, take the wife buy a little place in Mexico and Retire already.

You have worked your ass off since I have known you for the last 20 years.

I'll take over Videopass for you and send you some funds every month.

Deal?

Im callin the lawyers, get ready to sign paperwork.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

I didnt say its easy, if it would be that easy, everybody would do it. But its just as all the businesses are, if you are clever, you have no problems at all.

Somethings are not about being clever or not...its more about trends.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-29-2004, 12:46 PM

Why not just have me build you one?
It would be cheaper than 1M.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 12-29-2004, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

Im callin the lawyers, get ready to sign paperwork.

Have your guys talk to my guys and lets get it settled.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Why not just have me build you one?

Because the program itself is not what I need..I have the most extesive back end already built into Videopasscash.....its the webmaster base i am looking to purchase.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-29-2004, 12:48 PM

I can do that to.

baddog · 12-29-2004, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scoreman

1.6 EBITA is a number I would think would only get action from those already wanting to sell. That multiple won't interest any successful, happy owners.

That is probably another given

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I can do that to.

Then please do explain why you don't already have your own huge affiliate program (with all do respect to you)

Drake · 12-29-2004, 01:16 PM

The selling of programs in adult is tricky.

On one hand the selling price would/should be 1-2 years worth of profit or more depending on the program. Few programs would sell for anything less because they'd lose money. It would be more profitable just to run the thing or have somebody run it rather than sell it. On the other hand, adult is a much more volatile business than most with many uncertainties with regards to things like billing processing and affiliates - affiliates choose to send traffic, they don't have to. So in that respect, it would seem like a gamble even when buying a successful program.

This probably explains why the only major sales in adult in recent memory have been TGP's exchanging hands (ex. Worldsex purchase of AL4A), and programs having trouble being grandfathered into existing programs (Ex. Pornkings acquisition of Perfectiongirls, TripleXcash's acquisition Nocoeds). When that doesn't happen it appears that the program simply closes down.

Marty, what's your idea of a lot of affiliates? 30k+?

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33

The selling of programs in adult is tricky.

On one hand the selling price would/should be 1-2 years worth of profit or more depending on the program. Few programs would sell for anything less because they'd lose money. It would be more profitable just to run the thing or have somebody run it rather than sell it. On the other hand, adult is a much more volatile business than most with many uncertainties with regards to things like billing processing and affiliates - affiliates choose to send traffic, they don't have to. So in that respect, it would seem like a gamble even when buying a successful program.

This probably explains why the only major sales in adult in recent memory have been TGP's exchanging hands (ex. Worldsex purchase of AL4A), and programs having trouble being grandfathered into existing programs (Ex. Pornkings acquisition of Perfectiongirls, TripleXcash's acquisition Nocoeds). When that doesn't happen it appears that the program simply closes down.

Marty, what's your idea of a lot of affiliates? 30k+?

It does not have to be 30 thousand affiliates, it can be 1000 affiliates as long as 100 of them are real pushers.

Wizzo · 12-29-2004, 01:20 PM

Hey Marty, you got mail....

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-29-2004, 01:26 PM

Because I make them

I Do almost everything but banter around and put a smily face in front of it. Thats more for "People" things and relations which I completely suck at.

I've thought about trying to come out with my own program but I aint got the umm... "the Gab" thing and such, I suck at bullshitting and putting cream on top of it all.

I have always specialised in starters, getting somthing off the ground and then walk away, its just how I do business. Ya can ask around even the big fish wonder about me, alot of them I have helped at one point or another

But they will all tell ya I got a bad attitude.
I admit that I do

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-29-2004, 01:28 PM

Or maybe its just because I am weird but they love me

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Because I make them

I Do almost everything but banter around and put a smily face in front of it. Thats more for "People" things and relations which I completely suck at.

I've thought about trying to come out with my own program but I aint got the umm... "the Gab" thing and such, I suck at bullshitting and putting cream on top of it all.

I have always specialised in starters, getting somthing off the ground and then walk away, its just how I do business. Ya can ask around even the big fish wonder about me, alot of them I have helped at one point or another

But they will all tell ya I got a bad attitude.
I admit that I do

Fair enough

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-29-2004, 01:38 PM

I've talked with Airik about a few things maybe it came down the pipe some to ya. Perhaps in Vegas we can chat about it

Cheer's

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I've talked with Airik about a few things maybe it came down the pipe some to ya. Perhaps in Vegas we can chat about it

Cheer's

He has told me you have talked to him about DRM.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Or maybe its just because I am weird but they love me

You are alright in my book.

Art Del Gado · 12-29-2004, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Marty, why don't you take that money, take the wife buy a little place in Mexico and Retire already.

You have worked your ass off since I have known you for the last 20 years.

I'll take over Videopass for you and send you some funds every month.

Deal?

Varius · 12-29-2004, 06:31 PM

How about everything for 20-25 million ?

Hosting company, over a million $ of hardware, IwantU, affiliate program...the works

On a side note, I know it's not what you are looking for at all, but have ye any interest in demoncash.com? Just the domain, no webmasters or program there for you but I like the name

martyVP · 12-30-2004, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius

How about everything for 20-25 million ?

Hosting company, over a million $ of hardware, IwantU, affiliate program...the works

On a side note, I know it's not what you are looking for at all, but have ye any interest in demoncash.com? Just the domain, no webmasters or program there for you but I like the name

lol....i need more info than that.

KRL · 12-30-2004, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius

How about everything for 20-25 million ?

Hosting company, over a million $ of hardware, IwantU, affiliate program...the works

On a side note, I know it's not what you are looking for at all, but have ye any interest in demoncash.com? Just the domain, no webmasters or program there for you but I like the name

Huh humm. Hello. Don't forget my envelope on that deal.

martyVP · 12-30-2004, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

Huh humm. Hello. Don't forget my envelope on that deal.

envelope?

WWC · 12-30-2004, 02:47 AM

Interesting thread ...keep it going...

Marty wait a little more and i will buy VideoPass from you ;-)

martyVP · 12-30-2004, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

Interesting thread ...keep it going...

Marty wait a little more and i will buy VideoPass from you ;-)

Maybe I will just give it to you

12-29-2004, 12:41 PM	#155
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12-29-2004, 12:46 PM	#158
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Why not just have me build you one? It would be cheaper than 1M. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

12-29-2004, 12:48 PM	#161
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12-29-2004, 01:20 PM	#166
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12-29-2004, 01:26 PM	#167
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Because I make them I Do almost everything but banter around and put a smily face in front of it. Thats more for "People" things and relations which I completely suck at. I've thought about trying to come out with my own program but I aint got the umm... "the Gab" thing and such, I suck at bullshitting and putting cream on top of it all. I have always specialised in starters, getting somthing off the ground and then walk away, its just how I do business. Ya can ask around even the big fish wonder about me, alot of them I have helped at one point or another But they will all tell ya I got a bad attitude. I admit that I do __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

12-29-2004, 08:10 AM	#151
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	people who bitch about how high 1,6 x anual income is, dont get the most important point. If you buy a program that makes 100k/month net, doesnt mean you will make that much each month. If you are stupid you will make less, but if you are clever, you can work on the sites, make them better, implement new ideas, get new affiliates, etc etc and make 200, 300k/month...or even more and make the money back very soon.

12-29-2004, 08:16 AM	#152
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Lets face it the 1.6 takes into account industry risk and also society stigma. You can't go public with these sites. Fewer deep pocket buyers of your old porn site.

12-29-2004, 01:16 PM	#164
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	The selling of programs in adult is tricky. On one hand the selling price would/should be 1-2 years worth of profit or more depending on the program. Few programs would sell for anything less because they'd lose money. It would be more profitable just to run the thing or have somebody run it rather than sell it. On the other hand, adult is a much more volatile business than most with many uncertainties with regards to things like billing processing and affiliates - affiliates choose to send traffic, they don't have to. So in that respect, it would seem like a gamble even when buying a successful program. This probably explains why the only major sales in adult in recent memory have been TGP's exchanging hands (ex. Worldsex purchase of AL4A), and programs having trouble being grandfathered into existing programs (Ex. Pornkings acquisition of Perfectiongirls, TripleXcash's acquisition Nocoeds). When that doesn't happen it appears that the program simply closes down. Marty, what's your idea of a lot of affiliates? 30k+?

12-29-2004, 01:28 PM	#168
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Or maybe its just because I am weird but they love me __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

12-29-2004, 01:38 PM	#170
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	I've talked with Airik about a few things maybe it came down the pipe some to ya. Perhaps in Vegas we can chat about it Cheer's __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

12-29-2004, 06:31 PM	#174
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	How about everything for 20-25 million ? Hosting company, over a million $ of hardware, IwantU, affiliate program...the works On a side note, I know it's not what you are looking for at all, but have ye any interest in demoncash.com? Just the domain, no webmasters or program there for you but I like the name __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

12-30-2004, 02:47 AM	#178
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