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JFK · 12-29-2004, 12:25 AM

100 great buys

LA Mike · 12-29-2004, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

Your program must be worth a pretty penny.

But no way in hell would I take 1.6

I would take minimum 3 years profits I think... but I enjoy what I do so It would be hard to get from me at even that price

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike

But no way in hell would I take 1.6

I would take minimum 3 years profits I think... but I enjoy what I do so It would be hard to get from me at even that price

Understood

pxxx · 12-29-2004, 12:36 AM

I am actually learning something new from a gfy thread. It is a miracle.

Top Jimmy · 12-29-2004, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

I will fill that part in for you

um... no.

KRL · 12-29-2004, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy

um... no.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy

um... no.

OK, that was wierd...

Snake Doctor · 12-29-2004, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pxxx

I am actually learning something new from a gfy thread. It is a miracle.

2nd one this week.....must be something to do with the holidays.

Don't worry, we'll be back to "would you hit it" shortly after the new year.

JFK · 12-29-2004, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pxxx

I am actually learning something new from a gfy thread. It is a miracle.

Ahhhhhhmazing isnt it ...........what will they think of next

Theo · 12-29-2004, 12:44 AM

Have in mind that these purchases often can be risky. You'll better guarantee the other part will stay away from the adult business or figure a way. Affiliate programs generate most of their revenues from their top 10-20 affiliates. Someone with the experience can clone the program he already sold and get the top affiliates to the new one.

Top Jimmy · 12-29-2004, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

OK, that was wierd...

I'd rather have my Lawyer take care of the filling in.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

Have in mind that these purchases often can be risky. You'll better guarantee the other part will stay away from the adult business or figure a way. Affiliate programs generate most of their revenues from their top 10-20 affiliates. Someone with the experience can clone the program he already sold and get the top affiliates to the new one.

Of course

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Jimmy

I'd rather have my Lawyer take care of the filling in.

I was only talking about the part where I put my name and lastname bud

makefuckingmoney · 12-29-2004, 12:47 AM

Marty,

There are some hidden landmines in buying programs..i bought one and inherited some nice visa fines eventually from them...

pxxx · 12-29-2004, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

2nd one this week.....must be something to do with the holidays.

Don't worry, we'll be back to "would you hit it" shortly after the new year.

Keep them coming, that is the reason i joined this board.

I would be lying if i told you that i can join in on this conversation, but i am reading my ass off.

Hopefully we do not return to "hit it" threads.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney

Marty,

There are some hidden landmines in buying programs..i bought one and inherited some nice visa fines eventually from them...

That's not good....

I appreciate what you are saying though.

JFK · 12-29-2004, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney

Marty,

There are some hidden landmines in buying programs..i bought one and inherited some nice visa fines eventually from them...

great point.................

slapass · 12-29-2004, 12:54 AM

Quiet was bitching a while ago about not being able to sell for more then 6 months income. Not sure if he was serious.

PS baddog, I don't have millions but if you have a site for sale Iam looking. icq 166708909 shoot me a ball park number and I will see if i am in range. I won't waste either of our times if not possible.

Snake Doctor · 12-29-2004, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney

Marty,

There are some hidden landmines in buying programs..i bought one and inherited some nice visa fines eventually from them...

That's what I was referring to when I mentioned the old owner keeping his own rebills and chargebacks and the new owner setting up new processing accounts.

Of course now that you have to register urls with VISA I'm not sure you can do it that way.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Quiet was bitching a while ago about not being able to sell for more then 6 months income. Not sure if he was serious.

PS baddog, I don't have millions but if you have a site for sale Iam looking. icq 166708909 shoot me a ball park number and I will see if i am in range. I won't waste either of our times if not possible.

I know of a program selling for 750 k (its not what i am looking for but if you are interested i will ask him to get you details.)

Is 750k in your ballpark?

LA Mike · 12-29-2004, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

That's what I was referring to when I mentioned the old owner keeping his own rebills and chargebacks and the new owner setting up new processing accounts.

Of course now that you have to register urls with VISA I'm not sure you can do it that way.

But you cant really keep the rebills. Because after a few months your account will be frozen because your CB ratios will be out the roof. The only thing that keeps them low is the fact that you continue to get new transactions daily. Soon as you stop the CB's climb.. Big time.

I think the rebills have to go with the sites

baddog · 12-29-2004, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

PS baddog, I don't have millions but if you have a site for sale Iam looking. icq 166708909 shoot me a ball park number and I will see if i am in range. I won't waste either of our times if not possible.

Judging by your sig it is something right up your alley. Will ICQ you now.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike

But you cant really keep the rebills. Because after a few months your account will be frozen because your CB ratios will be out the roof. The only thing that keeps them low is the fact that you continue to get new transactions daily. Soon as you stop the CB's climb.. Big time.

I think the rebills have to go with the sites

Great point Mike.

btw..." you got mail "

J.R. · 12-29-2004, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

That's what I was referring to when I mentioned the old owner keeping his own rebills and chargebacks and the new owner setting up new processing accounts.

Of course now that you have to register urls with VISA I'm not sure you can do it that way.

Good point :food-smil

I will entertain offers starting at $1,250,000 +

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by J.R.

Good point :food-smil

I will entertain offers starting at $1,250,000 +

email me a confidentiality agreement if you would like so i can make you confortable enough to show me your numbers.

marty at videopass dot com

J.R. · 12-29-2004, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

Great point Mike.

btw..." you got mail "

That would work for some sites.

We get 1-2 chargebacks a month, we simply never get them.
In fact, Rand told me we were one of the lowest in Paycom

That was about 1-2 years back, though we still never get them.

wargames · 12-29-2004, 01:04 AM

I know someone that has a program for sale will hit you up

Far-L · 12-29-2004, 01:05 AM

Marty, don't know you personally, but i certainly know of your stature and I trust your judgement to make a solid purchase. I think that kind of move to consolidate the industry is not only wise but also a sign of the industry maturing.

J.R. · 12-29-2004, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

email me a confidentiality agreement if you would like so i can make you confortable enough to show me your numbers.

marty at videopass dot com

Marty,

I will hit you up tomorrow, it's getting late.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Marty, don't know you personally, but i certainly know of your stature and I trust your judgement to make a solid purchase. I think that kind of move to consolidate the industry is not only wise but also a sign of the industry maturing.

We are in the "shakedown" period of this industry...the sifter effect will be in effect.

LA Mike · 12-29-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

Great point Mike.

btw..." you got mail "

got it and mailed ya back

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by J.R.

Marty,

I will hit you up tomorrow, it's getting late.

ok hit me up tommorrow.

LA Mike · 12-29-2004, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Marty, don't know you personally, but i certainly know of your stature and I trust your judgement to make a solid purchase. I think that kind of move to consolidate the industry is not only wise but also a sign of the industry maturing.

How are ya Far-L? Looking forward to seing you guys in Vegas as usual

And yes, I'm kinda hoping to see a bit of shakedown myself

J.R. · 12-29-2004, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike

How are ya Far-L? Looking forward to seing you guys in Vegas as usual

And yes, I'm kinda hoping to see a bit of shakedown myself

Any Predictions for 2005 ?

I see this:

iBill not paying! ( joke I hope )

Reality Sites slowing down due to saturation

PPS slowing down due to stricter Visa regs. & increased fraud

RevShare on the rebound

Original Exclusive/Niche sites prospering.

My 2 cents.

LA Mike · 12-29-2004, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by J.R.

Any Predictions for 2005 ?

I see this:

iBill not paying! ( joke I hope )

Reality Sites slowing down due to saturation

PPS slowing down due to stricter Visa regs. & increased fraud

RevShare on the rebound

Original Exclusive/Niche sites prospering.

My 2 cents.

Yea, I would agree with most of those for sure

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike

got it and mailed ya back

mailed you back...lets try and talk tommorrow.

slapass · 12-29-2004, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

I know of a program selling for 750 k (its not what i am looking for but if you are interested i will ask him to get you details.)

Is 750k in your ballpark?

No, it is not. See quick honest answers.

Far-L · 12-29-2004, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike

How are ya Far-L? Looking forward to seing you guys in Vegas as usual

And yes, I'm kinda hoping to see a bit of shakedown myself

Likewise, mate!

Things are going amazingly well these days. Biz is great, getting crazy mainstream publicity, new programs to premiere, and as you know from being a brother in arms we are whipping Acacia silly.

I have to say that I have not looked so forward to a show in years.

oh yeah... we are up for 4 avn awards so I am working on my drunken rambling acceptance speech.

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

No, it is not. See quick honest answers.

hahahha, I love it!

J.R. · 12-29-2004, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Likewise, mate!

Things are going amazingly well these days. Biz is great, getting crazy mainstream publicity, new programs to premiere, and as you know from being a brother in arms we are whipping Acacia silly.

I have to say that I have not looked so forward to a show in years.

oh yeah... we are up for 4 avn awards so I am working on my drunken rambling acceptance speech.

Far-L,

I will keep an eye out for you at the show, have some
questions regarding DVD sales in the mainstream adult world.

LA Mike · 12-29-2004, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Likewise, mate!

Things are going amazingly well these days. Biz is great, getting crazy mainstream publicity, new programs to premiere, and as you know from being a brother in arms we are whipping Acacia silly.

I have to say that I have not looked so forward to a show in years.

oh yeah... we are up for 4 avn awards so I am working on my drunken rambling acceptance speech.

Nice, thats awesome man.. I got some DVD production stuff to talk to you about. Hope you clean up all 4 of those awards

Yea, the Acacia thing is going well. Well why shouldnt it.. We are in the right

I'm outa here guys... TTYALLLATER

MartyVP.. I'll get witha ya tomorrow

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike

Nice, thats awesome man.. I got some DVD production stuff to talk to you about. Hope you clean up all 4 of those awards

Yea, the Acacia thing is going well. Well why shouldnt it.. We are in the right

I'm outa here guys... TTYALLLATER

MartyVP.. I'll get witha ya tomorrow

Goodnit Mike

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutella

I would like to check in on this thread in 30 days to see if Marty actually buys anyone. Same topic is posted on about 10 boards.

A good way to make yourself seem like a player is to talk like one.

Will he actually buy anyone? We'll see.

Obviously the deal has to be right in order for me to make the purchase right?

Or should I try and purchase one to prove to you that I was serious?

Far-L · 12-29-2004, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by J.R.

Far-L,

I will keep an eye out for you at the show, have some
questions regarding DVD sales in the mainstream adult world.

Look forward to it. If you want answers sooner please email me timlake at homegrownvideo dot com and I will be happy to give you some feedback.

Far-L · 12-29-2004, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LAMike

Nice, thats awesome man.. I got some DVD production stuff to talk to you about. Hope you clean up all 4 of those awards

Yea, the Acacia thing is going well. Well why shouldnt it.. We are in the right

I'm outa here guys... TTYALLLATER

MartyVP.. I'll get witha ya tomorrow

I look forward to it.

makefuckingmoney · 12-29-2004, 01:45 AM

If you are not getting chargebacks you are not trying hard enough..

martyVP · 12-29-2004, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney

If you are not getting chargebacks you are not trying hard enough..

Maybe scrubbing way too hard.

bigdog · 12-29-2004, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by J.R.

We have over 600 members that have rebilled over 12 months.

We have over 200 members that have billed over 18 months.

I guess 3 months is for the shitty sites that are not exclusive or niche.

if you keep members so long, where is the pps program

scoreman · 12-29-2004, 07:48 AM

1.6 EBITA is a number I would think would only get action from those already wanting to sell. That multiple won't interest any successful, happy owners.

tranza · 12-29-2004, 07:52 AM

1.6 times EBITDA is just too low IMO...

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12-29-2004, 07:52 AM	#150
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	1.6 times EBITDA is just too low IMO... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

12-29-2004, 12:36 AM	#104
pxxx First African GFY Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,114	I am actually learning something new from a gfy thread. It is a miracle.

12-29-2004, 12:44 AM	#110
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Have in mind that these purchases often can be risky. You'll better guarantee the other part will stay away from the adult business or figure a way. Affiliate programs generate most of their revenues from their top 10-20 affiliates. Someone with the experience can clone the program he already sold and get the top affiliates to the new one.

12-29-2004, 12:47 AM	#114
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	Marty, There are some hidden landmines in buying programs..i bought one and inherited some nice visa fines eventually from them...

12-29-2004, 12:54 AM	#118
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Quiet was bitching a while ago about not being able to sell for more then 6 months income. Not sure if he was serious. PS baddog, I don't have millions but if you have a site for sale Iam looking. icq 166708909 shoot me a ball park number and I will see if i am in range. I won't waste either of our times if not possible.

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makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	If you are not getting chargebacks you are not trying hard enough..