What is the standard shave % in this biz? - GoFuckYourself.com

Juicy D. Links · 12-20-2004, 07:43 AM

I would like to make a rough estimate of how much money I have been assfucked for the past few years

Spunky · 12-20-2004, 07:46 AM

2-3 % ?

Pete · 12-20-2004, 07:48 AM

about 2 out of every 10 clicks gets redirected plus every 5th signup vanishes

Veterans Day · 12-20-2004, 07:52 AM

enough

Mefo · 12-20-2004, 07:55 AM

to much

Varius · 12-20-2004, 07:58 AM

0.000%

Hard as it is to believe, our motivation for actually staying honest is we have too much at stake to risk losing it on any possibly revealing code bug

We may not make as much as is possibele if we did shave, but our payouts are based on simple math. We always have made and continue to make profit and afford what we offer affiliates without risk of losing money.

In the longterm, this should help us gain more money by keeping more loyal affiliates.

However when I used to freelance, I've seen programs shave anywhere from 5%-30% and shave differently depending on how much you send to the program

Doctor Dre · 12-20-2004, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Varius
0.000%

Hard as it is to believe, our motivation for actually staying honest is we have too much at stake to risk losing it on any possibly revealing code bug

We may not make as much as is possibele if we did shave, but our payouts are based on simple math. We always have made and continue to make profit and afford what we offer affiliates without risk of losing money.

In the longterm, this should help us gain more money by keeping more loyal affiliates.

However when I used to freelance, I've seen programs shave anywhere from 5%-30% and shave differently depending on how much you send to the program

well you guys pay 25 $ per signup ... shouldn't be too hard to acheive without shaving

brand0n · 12-20-2004, 08:08 AM

atleast 10%

Varius · 12-20-2004, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
well you guys pay 25 $ per signup ... shouldn't be too hard to acheive without shaving

Exactly.....but some programs do shave on even lower amounts...

BTW our PPS is increasing to upto $35 per signup with the new site version out shortly (Revhare is increasing upto 70% as well and the two new programs are being added)

polish_aristocrat · 12-20-2004, 08:10 AM

Veterans Day · 12-20-2004, 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
0%

Porko · 12-20-2004, 08:13 AM

Lightspeed Cash : 100% Honest . They Dont shave !
(i have a few ls rebills since year 2000)

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Veterans Day · 12-20-2004, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bimbo
Lightspeed Cash : 100% Honest . They Dont shave !
(i have a few ls rebills since year 2000)

www.LIGHTSPEEDCASH.com ]So, Promote LIGHTSPEED SITES if you dont want to be shaved !![/URL]

WiredGuy · 12-20-2004, 11:01 AM

Remember PiB cash? They were in the double digits. I hope that's not the norm.
WG

Nicky · 12-20-2004, 11:03 AM

My guess is around 10-15 %

bigdog · 12-20-2004, 11:04 AM

any smart affilate program would shave based on how well your traffic rebills, and not just a overvall shave for all affiliates

Jer · 12-20-2004, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Remember PiB cash? They were in the double digits. I hope that's not the norm.
WG

Very high double digits. Brutal shaving.

StuartD · 12-20-2004, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Remember PiB cash? They were in the double digits. I hope that's not the norm.
WG

They were shaving into the mid 50%'s on some accounts.

Antonio · 12-20-2004, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Remember PiB cash? They were in the double digits. I hope that's not the norm.
WG

My guess is the sponsors that are here for the long run are a bit less gready.

Theo · 12-20-2004, 11:23 AM

the majority of PPS sponsors 30-60%

bigdog · 12-20-2004, 11:24 AM

Do you really think shaving is that common? You would think some programmers would have already squealed on their bosses by now.

StuartD · 12-20-2004, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog
Do you really think shaving is that common? You would think some programmers would have already squealed on their bosses by now.

That's when they retire... whether they want to or not.

bigdog · 12-20-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
the majority of PPS sponsors 30-60%

funny even if it is that high i still make more money with pps then i do with revshare

BlueQuartz · 12-20-2004, 11:39 AM

what a fucking stupid question

Pipeline Q · 12-20-2004, 11:41 AM

Depends on the size of the sponsor and also the affiliate's ability to send sales.

davethetruth · 12-20-2004, 11:43 AM

Our software shows our affiliates every single product purchased by their customers.

BVF · 12-20-2004, 11:46 AM

since the bulk of my traffic goes to my own program, I don't have to really worry about shit like shaving. But I still worry.

Juicy D. Links · 12-20-2004, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by BlueQuartz
what a fucking stupid question

didnt get any action from the kangaroo last night?

JSA Matt · 12-20-2004, 12:00 PM

You mean PPS? it's easily 60-80%

bigdog · 12-20-2004, 01:40 PM

bump for the shavers

The Bootyologist · 12-20-2004, 01:42 PM

30-60% IS A GOOD ESTIMATE

LA Mike · 12-20-2004, 01:44 PM

I like to shave to rigth about 1/16 of an inch. I like to leave just a little for you guys to see

Jman · 12-20-2004, 01:44 PM

2-3 times a week

LA Mike · 12-20-2004, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varius
0.000%

Hard as it is to believe, our motivation for actually staying honest is we have too much at stake to risk losing it on any possibly revealing code bug

We may not make as much as is possibele if we did shave, but our payouts are based on simple math. We always have made and continue to make profit and afford what we offer affiliates without risk of losing money.

In the longterm, this should help us gain more money by keeping more loyal affiliates.

However when I used to freelance, I've seen programs shave anywhere from 5%-30% and shave differently depending on how much you send to the program

People who think programs shave need to open their own sites and then they will realize there is no room to shave. Programs are doing everything they can to make your ratios better not worse. We want more sales cuz you know we convert.. NOT LESS

Shoplifter · 12-20-2004, 02:00 PM

20 to 50% by my estimate on larger programs.

DarkJedi · 12-20-2004, 02:03 PM

usualy 20-25%

tony286 · 12-20-2004, 02:09 PM

You got to figure the more generious the deal the bigger the shave.Thats why if I did Affilaite programs I would only use ones with dollars.com , it prevents shaving and they have to preload their account so the money is there for you to get paid. I saw Rick give a demo in his office. Besides the tech mumbo jumbo the biggest thing is its shave proof.

bigdog · 12-20-2004, 02:42 PM

shave or not, just send traffic to the program that makes you the most money

tranza · 12-20-2004, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
atleast 10%

Yeah right...

12-20-2004, 07:43 AM	#1
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	What is the standard shave % in this biz? I would like to make a rough estimate of how much money I have been assfucked for the past few years

12-20-2004, 07:46 AM	#2
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12-20-2004, 07:58 AM	#6
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	0.000% Hard as it is to believe, our motivation for actually staying honest is we have too much at stake to risk losing it on any possibly revealing code bug We may not make as much as is possibele if we did shave, but our payouts are based on simple math. We always have made and continue to make profit and afford what we offer affiliates without risk of losing money. In the longterm, this should help us gain more money by keeping more loyal affiliates. However when I used to freelance, I've seen programs shave anywhere from 5%-30% and shave differently depending on how much you send to the program __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

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12-20-2004, 08:13 AM	#12
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12-20-2004, 11:01 AM	#14
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12-20-2004, 11:03 AM	#15
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12-20-2004, 11:04 AM	#16
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	any smart affilate program would shave based on how well your traffic rebills, and not just a overvall shave for all affiliates

12-20-2004, 11:23 AM	#20
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	the majority of PPS sponsors 30-60%

12-20-2004, 11:24 AM	#21
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Do you really think shaving is that common? You would think some programmers would have already squealed on their bosses by now.

12-20-2004, 11:39 AM	#24
BlueQuartz Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,971	what a fucking stupid question

12-20-2004, 11:41 AM	#25
Pipeline Q Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,891	Depends on the size of the sponsor and also the affiliate's ability to send sales.

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12-20-2004, 11:46 AM	#27
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12-20-2004, 12:00 PM	#29
JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	You mean PPS? it's easily 60-80%

12-20-2004, 01:40 PM	#30
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	bump for the shavers

12-20-2004, 01:42 PM	#31
The Bootyologist So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: m00dville Posts: 2,912	30-60% IS A GOOD ESTIMATE

12-20-2004, 01:44 PM	#32
LA Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,056	I like to shave to rigth about 1/16 of an inch. I like to leave just a little for you guys to see

12-20-2004, 01:44 PM	#33
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12-20-2004, 02:00 PM	#35
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	20 to 50% by my estimate on larger programs.

12-20-2004, 02:03 PM	#36
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	usualy 20-25%

12-20-2004, 02:09 PM	#37
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	You got to figure the more generious the deal the bigger the shave.Thats why if I did Affilaite programs I would only use ones with dollars.com , it prevents shaving and they have to preload their account so the money is there for you to get paid. I saw Rick give a demo in his office. Besides the tech mumbo jumbo the biggest thing is its shave proof. Last edited by tony299; 12-20-2004 at 02:11 PM..

12-20-2004, 02:42 PM	#38
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	shave or not, just send traffic to the program that makes you the most money