What is the standard shave % in this biz?

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  • juicylinks
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #1

    What is the standard shave % in this biz?

    I would like to make a rough estimate of how much money I have been assfucked for the past few years
  • Spunky
    I need a beer
    • Jun 2002
    • 133986

    #2
    2-3 % ?

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    • Pete
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2001
      • 6617

      #3
      about 2 out of every 10 clicks gets redirected plus every 5th signup vanishes
      Evoke Electronics

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      • Veterans Day
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 8403

        #4
        enough
        Build a Massive Traffic Network, Hands FREE, Totally Automated

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        • Mefo
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2002
          • 6169

          #5
          to much

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          • Varius
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2004
            • 6890

            #6
            0.000%

            Hard as it is to believe, our motivation for actually staying honest is we have too much at stake to risk losing it on any possibly revealing code bug

            We may not make as much as is possibele if we did shave, but our payouts are based on simple math. We always have made and continue to make profit and afford what we offer affiliates without risk of losing money.

            In the longterm, this should help us gain more money by keeping more loyal affiliates.

            However when I used to freelance, I've seen programs shave anywhere from 5%-30% and shave differently depending on how much you send to the program
            Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

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            • Doctor Dre
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jan 2001
              • 51692

              #7
              Originally posted by Varius
              0.000%

              Hard as it is to believe, our motivation for actually staying honest is we have too much at stake to risk losing it on any possibly revealing code bug

              We may not make as much as is possibele if we did shave, but our payouts are based on simple math. We always have made and continue to make profit and afford what we offer affiliates without risk of losing money.

              In the longterm, this should help us gain more money by keeping more loyal affiliates.

              However when I used to freelance, I've seen programs shave anywhere from 5%-30% and shave differently depending on how much you send to the program
              well you guys pay 25 $ per signup ... shouldn't be too hard to acheive without shaving
              Originally posted by rayadp05
              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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              • brand0n
                been very busy
                • Nov 2002
                • 26983

                #8
                atleast 10%
                want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                • Varius
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 6890

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                  well you guys pay 25 $ per signup ... shouldn't be too hard to acheive without shaving
                  Exactly.....but some programs do shave on even lower amounts...

                  BTW our PPS is increasing to upto $35 per signup with the new site version out shortly (Revhare is increasing upto 70% as well and the two new programs are being added)
                  Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

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                  • polish_aristocrat
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 40377

                    #10
                    0%
                    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                    • Veterans Day
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 8403

                      #11
                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                      0%
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                      • Porko
                        SeeMyBucks.com
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 4014

                        #12
                        Lightspeed Cash : 100% Honest . They Dont shave !
                        (i have a few ls rebills since year 2000)

                        www.LIGHTSPEEDCASH.com]So, Promote Lightspeed Sites Right Now !!
                        Last edited by Porko; 12-20-2004, 06:15 AM.

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                        • Veterans Day
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 8403

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bimbo
                          Lightspeed Cash : 100% Honest . They Dont shave !
                          (i have a few ls rebills since year 2000)

                          www.LIGHTSPEEDCASH.com ]So, Promote LIGHTSPEED SITES if you dont want to be shaved !![/URL]
                          Build a Massive Traffic Network, Hands FREE, Totally Automated

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                          • WiredGuy
                            Pounding Googlebot
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 34512

                            #14
                            Remember PiB cash? They were in the double digits. I hope that's not the norm.
                            WG
                            I play with Google.

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                            • Nicky
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 30071

                              #15
                              My guess is around 10-15 %

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                              • bigdog
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 6964

                                #16
                                any smart affilate program would shave based on how well your traffic rebills, and not just a overvall shave for all affiliates

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                                • Jer
                                  God is Brazilian
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 10601

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                  Remember PiB cash? They were in the double digits. I hope that's not the norm.
                                  WG
                                  Very high double digits. Brutal shaving.

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                                  • StuartD
                                    Sofa King Band
                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 29903

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                    Remember PiB cash? They were in the double digits. I hope that's not the norm.
                                    WG
                                    They were shaving into the mid 50%'s on some accounts.
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                                    • Antonio
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 14136

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                      Remember PiB cash? They were in the double digits. I hope that's not the norm.
                                      WG
                                      My guess is the sponsors that are here for the long run are a bit less gready.

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                                      • Theo
                                        HAL 9000
                                        • May 2001
                                        • 34515

                                        #20
                                        the majority of PPS sponsors 30-60%

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                                        • bigdog
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 6964

                                          #21
                                          Do you really think shaving is that common? You would think some programmers would have already squealed on their bosses by now.

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                                          • StuartD
                                            Sofa King Band
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 29903

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bigdog
                                            Do you really think shaving is that common? You would think some programmers would have already squealed on their bosses by now.
                                            That's when they retire... whether they want to or not.
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                                            • bigdog
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 6964

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                              the majority of PPS sponsors 30-60%
                                              funny even if it is that high i still make more money with pps then i do with revshare

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                                              • BlueQuartz
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2004
                                                • 1971

                                                #24
                                                what a fucking stupid question

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                                                • Pipeline Q
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                  • 3891

                                                  #25
                                                  Depends on the size of the sponsor and also the affiliate's ability to send sales.

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                                                  • davethetruth
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 2806

                                                    #26
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                                                    • BVF
                                                      Black Vagina Finder
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 13975

                                                      #27
                                                      since the bulk of my traffic goes to my own program, I don't have to really worry about shit like shaving. But I still worry.

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                                                      • juicylinks
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 122992

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BlueQuartz
                                                        what a fucking stupid question
                                                        didnt get any action from the kangaroo last night?

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                                                        • JSA Matt
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 5464

                                                          #29
                                                          You mean PPS? it's easily 60-80%

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                                                          • bigdog
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 6964

                                                            #30
                                                            bump for the shavers

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                                                            • The Bootyologist
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                              • 2912

                                                              #31
                                                              30-60% IS A GOOD ESTIMATE

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                                                              • LA Mike
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 3056

                                                                #32
                                                                I like to shave to rigth about 1/16 of an inch. I like to leave just a little for you guys to see


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                                                                • Jman
                                                                  Already an AI veteran
                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                  • 22838

                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • LA Mike
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 3056

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Varius
                                                                    0.000%

                                                                    Hard as it is to believe, our motivation for actually staying honest is we have too much at stake to risk losing it on any possibly revealing code bug

                                                                    We may not make as much as is possibele if we did shave, but our payouts are based on simple math. We always have made and continue to make profit and afford what we offer affiliates without risk of losing money.

                                                                    In the longterm, this should help us gain more money by keeping more loyal affiliates.

                                                                    However when I used to freelance, I've seen programs shave anywhere from 5%-30% and shave differently depending on how much you send to the program

                                                                    People who think programs shave need to open their own sites and then they will realize there is no room to shave. Programs are doing everything they can to make your ratios better not worse. We want more sales cuz you know we convert.. NOT LESS

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                                                                    • Shoplifter
                                                                      Richest man in Babylon
                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 5848

                                                                      #35
                                                                      20 to 50% by my estimate on larger programs.
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                                                                      • DarkJedi
                                                                        No Refunds Issued.
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 28301

                                                                        #36
                                                                        usualy 20-25%

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                                                                        • tony299
                                                                          lurker
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 57021

                                                                          #37
                                                                          You got to figure the more generious the deal the bigger the shave.Thats why if I did Affilaite programs I would only use ones with dollars.com , it prevents shaving and they have to preload their account so the money is there for you to get paid. I saw Rick give a demo in his office. Besides the tech mumbo jumbo the biggest thing is its shave proof.
                                                                          Last edited by tony286; 12-20-2004, 12:11 PM.

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                                                                          • bigdog
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 6964

                                                                            #38
                                                                            shave or not, just send traffic to the program that makes you the most money

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                                                                            • tranza
                                                                              ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 57559

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                              atleast 10%
                                                                              Yeah right...
                                                                              I'm just a newbie.

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