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Old 12-13-2004, 03:14 PM   #1
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If Party Poker can take snap shots of your desktop, who else can here at GFY?

I found out that Party Poker takes snapshots of your desktop looking for a cheating program.


can any companies here do this too?


I just wat to know so I can hide my gay porn and my juicy pics.



thanks in advance
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:15 PM   #2
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:17 PM   #4
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I didn't know that.
Guess I should have read the TOS.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:18 PM   #5
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Yes, and this is 100% confirmed. Party Poker has deleted at least 50 accounts for using a cheating program and the proof that they caught them was showing i snap shot of their desk top with the cheating program running.




I'm so good at poker I don't need this cheating device. but for others, Christmas isn't comming early for them anymore
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:19 PM   #6
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How can you cheat with poker? I dont get that.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:19 PM   #7
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7. Consent to Use of Anti-Cheating Software. Our software package used to access and use the Service contains certain features designed to detect use of automated programs that enable artificial (non-human) intelligence to play on our site. Use of such ?bot? software programs violates our Terms and Conditions of Use, and is detrimental to other players. By installing our software and using the Service, you consent to our software performing the functions described in this section. Our software may perform any or all of the following functions in order to detect the use of illicit automated programs and ensure that we maintain a ?cheat free? environment for all users: (1) scan your list of active software applications while you are using the Service, (2) scan your list of active processes while you are using the service, (3) scan the files in your PartyPoker.com-related program folders to ensure that only ?non-hacked? versions of our software are being used. If any of the foregoing processes reveals a suspect application or process, our software may (1) scan the files associated with the suspect application or process and compile a composite mesh (i.e. a profile that characterizes the files associated with the application or process) to be matched against profiles for known illicit automated programs, and (2) capture a screenshot of your desktop, and transmit these to PartyPoker.com for review. Our software will not perform any random search of large portions of your hard drive or other files, and will not transmit any information to us or to any third party other than the information necessary to identify use of illicit automated program as described above. Our software will not alter any files or information on your computer, and will not interfere with the operation of any of your applications. You may terminate use of our software at any time by uninstalling the PartyPoker.com software package.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:20 PM   #9
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:22 PM   #10
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How can you cheat with poker? I dont get that.
It's not technically cheating.
They have programs out there that let you know what would be the best thing for you to do at any certein point in the game.
Like "Don't bet too high" or "Fold".
There may be other programs out there that do it auto or something but other than that, I really don't think there is any way to cheat their system.

It's like playing poker and having a buddy of yours lean over your shoulder and let you know what's up.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:23 PM   #11
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How can you cheat with poker? I dont get that.

the program can connect yopu to another player at that table and you both can see each others cards. so you don't have to commuicate at all and play fast and get undetected everytime.


until now
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:23 PM   #12
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It's not technically cheating.
They have programs out there that let you know what would be the best thing for you to do at any certein point in the game.
Like "Don't bet too high" or "Fold".
There may be other programs out there that do it auto or something but other than that, I really don't think there is any way to cheat their system.

It's like playing poker and having a buddy of yours lean over your shoulder and let you know what's up.
Ah i see.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:25 PM   #13
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Ah i see.

the win em hold software is cheating software
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:26 PM   #14
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:27 PM   #15
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yes, i agree. fuck em


some of those cheaters they caught had $1,000-$2,000 in thier accounts.

now it's all gone
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:27 PM   #16
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the program can connect yopu to another player at that table and you both can see each others cards. so you don't have to commuicate at all and play fast and get undetected everytime.


until now
ridiculously amateur theory.

i have 4 machines online here.

or i could be on the phone.

icq can be launched on a laptop on a swivel mount deaktop near me.

this is amateur theory

i could play on aol while you play on cable line upstairs.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:31 PM   #17
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:32 PM   #19
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ridiculously amateur theory.

i have 4 machines online here.

or i could be on the phone.

icq can be launched on a laptop on a swivel mount deaktop near me.

this is amateur theory

i could play on aol while you play on cable line upstairs.
this is true Fletch. but after you and your rommie wins a couple of tourneys together or win from the same money tables day after day, they will catch it and then you would be fucked too.



so just don't cheat. go play bingo if your poker game isn't up to par
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i dont cheat nor do i play ;)

i cancelled the party poker without redeeming my free credits.

gambling is not my thing.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:36 PM   #21
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i dont cheat nor do i play ;)

i cancelled the party poker without redeeming my free credits.

gambling is not my thing.
That is a wise choice. I wish I could say the same thing
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:41 PM   #22
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Old 12-13-2004, 04:13 PM   #23
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glad to hear no other companies are doing this
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Old 12-13-2004, 04:16 PM   #24
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that really sucks, who do they think they are?
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That is a wise choice. I wish I could say the same thing
dont get me wrong, i like to play some cards with friends or have beers with the friends and family and play. or even go to casinos, but not one for online gambling.

however, i did want to check out the software.

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Old 12-14-2004, 03:29 PM   #26
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It's not really cheating like you would commonly think of it, it is what is referred to in the biz as collusion. The basic concept is two or more players sit at a table together and control the action to maximize their profits.

All of the online poker sites have some type of anti-collusion software/monitoring systems. They pick up on all types of things including patterns of people playing together, betting patterns, etc.

Protects honest players like us from the scum bags of the world.
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It's not really cheating like you would commonly think of it, it is what is referred to in the biz as collusion. The basic concept is two or more players sit at a table together and control the action to maximize their profits.

All of the online poker sites have some type of anti-collusion software/monitoring systems. They pick up on all types of things including patterns of people playing together, betting patterns, etc.

Protects honest players like us from the scum bags of the world.

collusion=cheating.

if we were bad in the wild west days, these people would be shot at the table.
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This thread is very interesting.
yes, it's very important to know that one company can look at 60,000 desktops at any time, for what ever reason they want.
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yep, that's it. if Party Poker finds an icon of win holdem on your desktop, your account gets closed.
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why is that pic on your desktop?
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why is that pic on your desktop?

lol, I'm the greatest. I don't need to cheat......like others
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There is a way to "mask" your desktop so PartyPoker cannot see it.

I won't tell you how, but any idiot should know.
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There is a way to "mask" your desktop so PartyPoker cannot see it.

I won't tell you how, but any idiot should know.
thanks for your help
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No problem.

Another trick for PartyPoker players... http://www.pokertracker.com/ is a great tool that can be used to list losing players.

You stand a better chance tracking those players and playing them, obviously.

Another hint is to look at the pre-flop percentage rates.
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How can you cheat with poker? I dont get that.
There are many "helper" programs out there that can tell you pot odds implied odds etc etc.
Some can tell you your hand rank and win % with any given hand when you imput how many players are at the table...what cards are showing.
It could be considered cheating I guess...but I always felt they are more of a "helper" for people who can't do these things in their head.
You sure can't pull out your laptop at a casino and use them though!
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^ This thread is the reason I dont play online poker for real money.
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There are many "helper" programs out there that can tell you pot odds implied odds etc etc.
Some can tell you your hand rank and win % with any given hand when you imput how many players are at the table...what cards are showing.
It could be considered cheating I guess...but I always felt they are more of a "helper" for people who can't do these things in their head.
You sure can't pull out your laptop at a casino and use them though!
Party Poker doesnt care about programs like Holdem Assistant or whatever....its like those little cards you can buy and take to the blackjack table ;)
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I am technically clueless but it seems that screen scraping and taking a snapshot of your desktop are two different things.

Plus, I will accept the screen scraping if its the only way to make sure collusion software isnt being used by other players.
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