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KRL · 12-13-2004, 01:27 PM

I know we kid around a lot about it, but for the record I do gladly welcome and invite you guys that have a different vision of how it should look to send me what you think would look better.

If we like what we see and implement it nice $ and a continuing relationship on other domains upcoming.

[email protected]

Fletch XXX · 12-13-2004, 01:27 PM

Triple 6 · 12-13-2004, 01:28 PM

i still think the design i did for the contest owns them all.

but hey thats just me.

polish_aristocrat · 12-13-2004, 01:30 PM

hm...but didn't you run a contest for it few months ago....? ;-))

It received some very nice entries...

BTW if anyone has the url to that thread, please post it here, I would like to take a closer look at some of these designer work

European Lee · 12-13-2004, 01:33 PM

KRL,

You should shoot an email over to [email protected]

You'll get a much better design from them than you would waiting for some of the amateur designers to give you something in a contest.

Just a thought.

Regards,

Lee

Triple 6 · 12-13-2004, 01:33 PM

lol

http://unknownorigin.com/images/krl1.jpg

http://unknownorigin.com/images/krl2.jpg

frankfortuna · 12-13-2004, 01:35 PM

Kevin,

We work with one of the brighest CSS developers in the industry, his work is comparable to Eric Meyer and Douglas Bowman (of wired.com and blogger.com fame). I truly feel your site could benefit from someone with a strong knowledge of usability, standards, and cross-broswer compatibility issues. If you'd like to discuss the matter, and see some example works, please post you contact info here.

Please note, this is not a for-proit referral, just something I think you could greatly benefit from.

dunefield · 12-13-2004, 01:35 PM

If i had a domain like men.com i would make it more upmarket for a gq, esquire style crowd rather than your ordinary american male...

they spend $$$ and usually are busy (eg. business men)... plus you can sell products like aveda, nivea and other toilette/skin care products...

one thing i see missing on the page is gadgets... guys like to see the latest pda or cell phone so they can show it off in the next boardroom meeting...

dunefield · 12-13-2004, 01:37 PM

http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/

fris · 12-13-2004, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I know we kid around a lot about it, but for the record I do gladly welcome and invite you guys that have a different vision of how it should look to send me what you think would look better.

If we like what we see and implement it nice $ and a continuing relationship on other domains upcoming.

[email protected]

KRL. a friend of mine does excellent mainstream work.

http://www.darkhousemedia.com

some of his projects he has done

i can put you in touch with him if you want

KRL · 12-13-2004, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Triple 6
i still think the design i did for the contest owns them all.

but hey thats just me.

Can you post a link.

I'm starting to send work to the guys who were in that last contest.

Fletch XXX · 12-13-2004, 01:45 PM

i took a shot at it KRL

AdultNex · 12-13-2004, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
KRL. a friend of mine does excellent mainstream work.

http://www.darkhousemedia.com

some of his projects he has done

i can put you in touch with him if you want

I don't think he would be suitable for ordinary static mainstream projects, but his Flash work kicks ass!

How much is his general rate for a Flash project? If you know off the top of your head...

Triple 6 · 12-13-2004, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Can you post a link.

I'm starting to send work to the guys who were in that last contest.

already did, see my reply after the one you quoted :P

i also had a 3rd design that was a little more simple...

http://unknownorigin.com/images/krl3.jpg

AdultNex · 12-13-2004, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna
Kevin,

We work with one of the brighest CSS developers in the industry, his work is comparable to Eric Meyer and Douglas Bowman (of wired.com and blogger.com fame). I truly feel your site could benefit from someone with a strong knowledge of usability, standards, and cross-broswer compatibility issues. If you'd like to discuss the matter, and see some example works, please post you contact info here.

Please note, this is not a for-proit referral, just something I think you could greatly benefit from.

Let me guess... Jakob Nielsen?

Roald · 12-13-2004, 01:51 PM

get in contact with www.envisionext.com or something and have it done professional like the domain deserves

frankfortuna · 12-13-2004, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
Let me guess... Jakob Nielsen?

Good guess, but no, Jacob's theories are a bit strict. He did produce one of the most popular, if not the most popular csszengarden.com entries though.

SGS · 12-13-2004, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dunefield
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/

That is a site that we use a lot in the office here

fris · 12-13-2004, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
I don't think he would be suitable for ordinary static mainstream projects, but his Flash work kicks ass!

How much is his general rate for a Flash project? If you know off the top of your head...

he can do total mainstream too, but i would have to ask him, newyorkfries.com that project they paid him $10k, hes working on another project for $40k right know but i think flash is involved in that one. i would need to know what you need done. each project is different.

just say hes doing good for a young kid living at home

KRL · 12-13-2004, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
i took a shot at it KRL

Now that is a true piece of art Fletch!

AdultNex · 12-13-2004, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna
Good guess, but no, Jacob's theories are a bit strict. He did produce one of the most popular, if not the most popular csszengarden.com entries though.

Yeah, I was just joking around.

Do you mind giving out a name, or dropping a hint?

The curiosity is killing me.

FredIsMe · 12-13-2004, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Triple 6
already did, see my reply after the one you quoted :P

i also had a 3rd design that was a little more simple...

http://unknownorigin.com/images/krl3.jpg

sorry man but your designs are worse than the current men.com design

KRL · 12-13-2004, 03:00 PM

Also guys we're paying 20% agency fees if you bring in advertisers, which is 5% above the industry standard.

brand0n · 12-13-2004, 03:01 PM

fletch kills it.

abyss_al · 12-13-2004, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Triple 6
lol

http://unknownorigin.com/images/krl1.jpg

http://unknownorigin.com/images/krl2.jpg

brand0n · 12-13-2004, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Also guys we're paying 20% agency fees if you bring in advertisers, which is 5% above the industry standard.

whats the rates like, how much traffic per day would the links get?

KRL · 12-13-2004, 03:05 PM

http://men.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45

I saved all the links from the contest by the way.

abyss_al · 12-13-2004, 03:10 PM

a project so big with so much potential... you gotta go with the best:

www.2advanced.com

KRL · 12-13-2004, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by abyss_al
a project so big with so much potential... you gotta go with the best:

www.2advanced.com

Holy fuckers. That is FLASH FLASH FLASH!

Dayummmmm!

brand0n · 12-13-2004, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Holy fuckers. That is FLASH FLASH FLASH!

Dayummmmm!

those guys are gods, they wont touch adult =\

abyss_al · 12-13-2004, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Holy fuckers. That is FLASH FLASH FLASH!

Dayummmmm!

they are the best... wont touch adult.. but men.com is not adult.. but they are very expensive... very very very expensive.....

give you an example:

my friends spa: quoted about $30k
my friends online car parts: quoted about $60k

worth every dime

Raf1 · 12-13-2004, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
he can do total mainstream too, but i would have to ask him, newyorkfries.com that project they paid him $10k, hes working on another project for $40k right know but i think flash is involved in that one. i would need to know what you need done. each project is different.

just say hes doing good for a young kid living at home

I really like the newyorkfries.com design. You're friend is truly talented

galleryseek · 12-13-2004, 03:30 PM

I personally like my design the best ;)

the content area is a little weak, but you could get some appealing adspace where it says "the bedroom: diveristy is key" for your personals and such.

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow11.gif

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow1.gif

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow.gif

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow111.gif

and the navigation would work as such: www.dreamache.com/mencom/html

regardless of how you choose to design/redesign the site. it's very important that you hire a designer that is capable of structuring the site in xhtml / css. I've done this with a couple sites so far: www.healthygo.com if you view the source you will see it is structered without tables, and the coding is very minimal.

i like mine because it's very clean yet appealing and would be quick to load - oh and because i designed it

also - if you decide to redesign your site, be SURE to restructure it in such a way that you can easily connect all of your partnership sites together in one central easy to access location. preferably it'd be nice if each of your partnership co-branded sites were designed under the same flow.

Libertine · 12-13-2004, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
I personally like my design the best ;)

the content area is a little weak, but you could get some appealing adspace where it says "the bedroom: diveristy is key" for your personals and such.

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow11.gif

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow1.gif

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow.gif

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow111.gif

and the navigation would work as such: www.dreamache.com/mencom/html

regardless of how you choose to design/redesign the site. it's very important that you hire a designer that is capable of structuring the site in xhtml / css. I've done this with a couple sites so far: www.healthygo.com if you view the source you will see it is structered without tables, and the coding is very minimal.

i like mine because it's very clean yet appealing and would be quick to load - oh and because i designed it

also - if you decide to redesign your site, be SURE to restructure it in such a way that you can easily connect all of your partnership sites together in one central easy to access location. preferably it'd be nice if each of your partnership co-branded sites were designed under the same flow.

Looks really good, except for the gay-looking guy at the top.

Fletch XXX · 12-13-2004, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

Now that is a true piece of art Fletch!

Glad you dig it.

Triple 6 · 12-13-2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by abyss_al
they are the best... wont touch adult.. but men.com is not adult.. but they are very expensive... very very very expensive.....

give you an example:

my friends spa: quoted about $30k
my friends online car parts: quoted about $60k

worth every dime

men.com is 'supposed' to be a portal. Portals should be fast loading with minimal flash (or none), and your talking about 2advanced?

moron

KRL · 12-13-2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raf1
I really like the newyorkfries.com design. You're friend is truly talented

That's neat. I'm hesitant to go all flash though.

abyss_al · 12-13-2004, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Triple 6
men.com is 'supposed' to be a portal. Portals should be fast loading with minimal flash (or none), and your talking about 2advanced? moron

hey dumbass.. they don't just do flash.... look at some of their samples

AdultNex · 12-13-2004, 03:48 PM

Flash is useless (or as Jakob Nielson says... 99% useless).

It's only good for intros or brief presentations.

Triple 6 · 12-13-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FredIsMe
sorry man but your designs are worse than the current men.com design

- the contest was only for a header.... everything below it was what was on men.com at the current time.

galleryseek · 12-13-2004, 03:50 PM

yeah, knowing what I know now - i wouldn't do a navigation in flash for SEO purposes. but the design I posted still can be easily done in normal css/html.

KRL · 12-13-2004, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
I personally like my design the best ;)

the content area is a little weak, but you could get some appealing adspace where it says "the bedroom: diveristy is key" for your personals and such.

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow11.gif

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow1.gif

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow.gif

http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow111.gif

and the navigation would work as such: www.dreamache.com/mencom/html

regardless of how you choose to design/redesign the site. it's very important that you hire a designer that is capable of structuring the site in xhtml / css. I've done this with a couple sites so far: www.healthygo.com if you view the source you will see it is structered without tables, and the coding is very minimal.

i like mine because it's very clean yet appealing and would be quick to load - oh and because i designed it

also - if you decide to redesign your site, be SURE to restructure it in such a way that you can easily connect all of your partnership sites together in one central easy to access location. preferably it'd be nice if each of your partnership co-branded sites were designed under the same flow.

Gary,

I just sent you an e-mail on layouts for GaySex.com & Porno.com.

Kevin

Triple 6 · 12-13-2004, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by abyss_al
hey dumbass.. they don't just do flash.... look at some of their samples

i didnt say they only did flash, neither did you, but you talk about a company thats pretty much only known for their flash designs, which is obviously the high priced crap you were quoting. $30k and 60k for minimal flash or static html? lolllll ok

I sale clues for cheap. Wanna get 1?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-13-2004, 03:53 PM

See GoOGLE Index page?

Thats all you need.

Pornwolf · 12-13-2004, 03:53 PM

Envisiontext's got what you need.

cayne · 12-13-2004, 03:53 PM

2advanced is really BAD ASS. but yeah, perhaps not the best solution for men.com (due to flash)

Pornwolf · 12-13-2004, 03:55 PM

Galleryseek's designs look pretty clean.

KRL · 12-13-2004, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Triple 6
- the contest was only for a header.... everything below it was what was on men.com at the current time.

If there is one thing I've learned and this goes for myself as well its next to impossible to have a room of people look at a site and all agree they like the design.

When it comes to web sites everyone has their own likes and dislikes for color, spacing, buttons, flash, backgrounds, fonts, and on and on. There are so many elements and that is why you get such a variety of opinions.

The hardest thing so far for me has just been getting everyone on the teams to agree. Its a real challenge.

KRL · 12-13-2004, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Galleryseek's designs look pretty clean.

Gallerseek just did this for us. And both are sharp designs.

http://www.men.com/s8/

http://www.men.com/s11/

brand0n · 12-13-2004, 03:56 PM

Kev, could you get on icq for just a min? got the worlds fastest question.

12-13-2004, 01:27 PM	#1
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12-13-2004, 03:30 PM	#33
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	I personally like my design the best ;) the content area is a little weak, but you could get some appealing adspace where it says "the bedroom: diveristy is key" for your personals and such. http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow11.gif http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow1.gif http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow.gif http://www.dreamache.com/mencom/newshow111.gif and the navigation would work as such: www.dreamache.com/mencom/html regardless of how you choose to design/redesign the site. it's very important that you hire a designer that is capable of structuring the site in xhtml / css. I've done this with a couple sites so far: www.healthygo.com if you view the source you will see it is structered without tables, and the coding is very minimal. i like mine because it's very clean yet appealing and would be quick to load - oh and because i designed it also - if you decide to redesign your site, be SURE to restructure it in such a way that you can easily connect all of your partnership sites together in one central easy to access location. preferably it'd be nice if each of your partnership co-branded sites were designed under the same flow.

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galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	yeah, knowing what I know now - i wouldn't do a navigation in flash for SEO purposes. but the design I posted still can be easily done in normal css/html.

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12-13-2004, 03:56 PM	#50
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