Dugmor

Maybe it is not a good time to be eating aborted duck eggs !

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The Pandemic of 1918 took course over a number of years.

With an estimated turn around of a 3 month vaccine less than 10,000 will die directly from this sort of thing.

Well at least Americans...

The pharmacies will make a killing of course on the other countries.

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Dugmor

That sounds like a great idea !

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As George W Bush would say...

"Bring it on!"

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Trixxxia

I agree, specially when it's not GFY folks that are reporting it but World Health Organization's officials.

NoCarrier

Maybe that's because most people think that Flu can be cured with antibiotics or cold syrups. Current flu strains are not dangerous for healthy young people. But when a new flu strain appear, like a pandemic strain, almost everyone on this planet will be infected. That doesn't mean everyone will die. But if that new strain is H5N1, the actual death rate is 70%

And about people not being concerned, here is an interesting article about it.

Specter of deadly flu pandemic fails to alarm government

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld...y/10399549.htm]

Suppose we knew that terrorists were about to launch a biological weapon that would kill somewhere between 10 million and 100 million people, maybe more.

Suppose, further, that we knew of ways to limit the damage and prevent many of those deaths because we had detailed medical knowledge of the type of biological threat we were facing -- even if we couldn't create a precisely targeted antidote or vaccine ahead of time.

Now imagine that the U.S. government was making only modest preparations -- that we were in key ways leaving the matter to a greedy pharmaceutical industry that has botched its handling of a similar but much milder hazard.

It's true.

Sometime in the fairly near future, a deadly flu pandemic will sweep the globe. It almost certainly will be a variant on the avian influenza (often called the ``bird flu'') that has already claimed several dozen lives in Asia and to which few humans have immunity.

Flu pandemics are a fact of life. Every few decades, on average, a virus comes along that humans can't handle because we've had no prior exposure. The viruses come first from animals. The bugs are transmitted, at first, from animals to humans and then -- when things get bad -- from humans to humans.

Yet despite some recent stirrings of official concern, and some modest action, the world is insufficiently prepared. And the nation that should be leading the way -- the United States -- isn't doing enough.

Now, it's not as though we're doing nothing at all. Public health people here and around the world are well aware of the threat. The World Health Organization has held urgent meetings to plan for what officials consider the near-inevitability of a pandemic.

Loud alarms are being sounded in Asia. On a recent lengthy visit to Hong Kong, I observed that newspapers ran frequent reports on the gravity of the situation and the preparations officials are making.

Hong Kong, in particular, is getting ready. The Chinese ``special administrative region'' has already had several, so far isolated, cases of bird flu. And, of course, it was especially hard-hit by SARS in 2003, an outbreak for which it was not sufficiently prepared, by most accounts.

Hong Kong is a crowded place, just the kind of location where the flu would spread quickly. The authorities have contingency plans for closing schools and businesses, even though that will play havoc with the economy. The alternatives are worse.

The United States seems lackadaisical about the whole thing. There have been some news stories, but it's bizarre that we are not more concerned. Only when he was about to leave office did Tommy Thompson, outgoing U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services, express the kind of alarm this threat, among others, deserves.

I can understand officials' reluctance to unnecessarily alarm people. I doubt they would hesitate to do more, though, if they thought some terrorist was about to launch a super-flu on the nation. And while the budget for combating bioterrorism has risen dramatically, combating infectious diseases is no more of a priority now than in the past.

``If we skew our focus to just a few diseases that might be potent bioterrorist weapons, I think we are losing a great opportunity to be much better prepared for the next emerging infectious disease that is surely going to hit us,'' Malik Peiris, head of virology at the University of Hong Kong (where I was teaching last month), told journalists there in early November.

Flu vaccines for unknown strains can't be produced ahead of time, but the world could be doing a lot more to create an infrastructure for an extremely rapid response. Again, the United States may find itself behind the curve due to our government's misplaced belief that private industry is best equipped to do everything.

The debacle over this year's flu vaccine -- sparked by a single company's lapses in running a plant in the United Kingdom -- suggests chaos is at least a possible outcome when and if the avian flu hits.

Chiron, the Emeryville company that's just one of two U.S. companies providing flu vaccines for the relatively mild strains we've seen in recent years, doesn't seem up to the job. It messed up badly when its plant was temporarily closed by British officials due to contamination fears, and has just received a further three-month suspension. So not only this year's flu-shot supply is low; next year's may be, too.

Vaccines are a difficult business to be in. The market is risky for investors for a variety of reasons. And people inside big and small companies do make mistakes -- these are part of the human condition.

But sometimes the free market fails, because some problems demand solutions that only society as a whole can handle, via government. This is why we have a military, among other things.

The avian flu pandemic is a brewing global emergency. It demands the kind of response that a verifiable, imminent terrorist threat would produce.

And we need to get our priorities straight.

``Nature is the most potent bioterrorist of all,'' said Peiris.

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BlackCrayon

don't believe the hype. we have been on the brink of a pademic for years now but this year the media decided to go with the story since they didn't have anything to make ppl fear.

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NoCarrier

Actually, the medias aren't even talking about it.

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Drake

Nooooooooooooo

MetaMan

the flu is going on like mad here, im sure i had it last week, i never actually got it checked out but i know what it feels like,

at least 7-8 of my closest friends have gotten sick before me, and a few of them lately have been staying at home also due to flu like symptons, BLAME THE CHINESE.

Kimmykim

I don't think it can be any worse than the crap I caught during Webmaster Access in Santa Monica. I've still got a cough and congestion from it!

BlackCrayon

well i don't really watch tv news but most every forum i visit has messages with articles posted about it. i just think its silly to get all worked about it when we've had the same risk for about the past 5 years.

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NoCarrier

2 years ago the risk was not has high because the H5N1 virus hasn't started spreading in Asia. Now it's everywhere in Asia. That's why the situation is different and that's why scientists are worried.

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Platinumpimp

Yea, because of the poor hygiene in these countries (and simply cuz these people live disgusting), I am not suprised another disease pops up from that shithole.

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Centurion

Now don't start pouting now because someone disagrees with you. Even you are contradicting yourself by first saying "I'm talking about the h5n1 virus" and then turn around and say "tamiflu has been used effectively in other strains of bird flu..the h7n7 strain.."

And NO..there were NOT 1000 people infected in the Netherlands with the avian virus..only **80**, and only ONE person died from it in 2003. (This directly from the CDC website..have YOU read their report?) http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/facts.htm

And from other sources:
Other recent outbreaks of human illness from avian flu viruses have been smaller or less severe, the WHO said. The H5N1 virus caused two human cases, with one death, in Hong Kong in February 2003. Last year in the Netherlands, H7N7 avian influenza caused the death of a veterinarian and mild illness in 83 other people. In Hong Kong, mild infections with influenza A(H9N2) occurred in two children in 1999 and in another child in December 2003.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/con...1304avian.html

I'm not saying you are "bullshitting" anything. I'm saying that you have "overstated" the facts as to what really has happened with the avian virus.

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