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Darren · 12-12-2004, 02:52 PM

I was sitting in Starbucks today and purchased a Big Issue of a vendor outside (£2 it was!!)... I started flicking through the magazine and came across advert after advert of organisations asking for money for the homeless, sick, poor, kids, diseases... You name it, it was there. The same adverts asking for money, YET every year nothing changes.

I can give ten pounds and it will help a few people, I can run a project and it will help a few people but how can I help change the world? How can I or us few change the mindset of the greedy and the ignorant (i would include myself in that definition).

Where on your list is trying to change things for the better? Is having money yourself and getting drunk an higher priority than trying to change the world.

I do wonder, a lot, and it makes me feel so fucking god damn useless. Is anything we do going to change the world..

Education is the key, this is what we get told.. this is the thing that can change the mindset of everyone. But then you go to school/university and you get told your the top 1% in the world, you get told ur doing this to GET A GOOD JOB and EARN GOOD MONEY and to compete and stamp down on those that get in the way. Top organisations being unethically exploiting other countries (but this is ok, cuz its for money.)

I don't know, theres really no point to this post.. Just sometimes, things make me feel so useless.

wes · 12-12-2004, 02:56 PM

its ok, really there is not much we can do about it..

iFliPcEss · 12-12-2004, 03:05 PM

changing the world? i believe everyday there's a lot of changes around the world, good and bad, best & worst things are happening around the corner, and we simply cannot do something about it.

Icon · 12-12-2004, 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by Darren
I was sitting in Starbucks today and purchased a Big Issue of a vendor outside (£2 it was!!)... I started flicking through the magazine and came across advert after advert of organisations asking for money for the homeless, sick, poor, kids, diseases... You name it, it was there. The same adverts asking for money, YET every year nothing changes.

I can give ten pounds and it will help a few people, I can run a project and it will help a few people but how can I help change the world? How can I or us few change the mindset of the greedy and the ignorant (i would include myself in that definition).

Where on your list is trying to change things for the better? Is having money yourself and getting drunk an higher priority than trying to change the world.

I do wonder, a lot, and it makes me feel so fucking god damn useless. Is anything we do going to change the world..

Education is the key, this is what we get told.. this is the thing that can change the mindset of everyone. But then you go to school/university and you get told your the top 1% in the world, you get told ur doing this to GET A GOOD JOB and EARN GOOD MONEY and to compete and stamp down on those that get in the way. Top organisations being unethically exploiting other countries (but this is ok, cuz its for money.)

I don't know, theres really no point to this post.. Just sometimes, things make me feel so useless.

People should be thinking like this on a daily basis. Nothing will change. People demonstrate and protest with no effect on their targets (Governments, corporations, the church etc...) because the protests are lacking one key factor that made them influential in the past, people with positions of relative power are NOT getting involved, no profs, CEO's,MP's or Governenors. They are in terror of being considered liberal or rtaking any form of risk. their cowardice is crippling a movement.

Also, GREED IS NOT A VIRTUE. people forget that often. Choose a profession that does something good, for example, Teaching High School or working part time for non profit orgs.

The only way we can implement any sort or REAL change is to stop buying things. The only voice we have is as a consumer. Choose to boycott someone (for example McCains because in the 1990's they were sued a few times for discriminatory hiring practices) But what the fucvk do I know? I'm poor.

BRISK · 12-12-2004, 03:10 PM

Education is the key

Darren · 12-12-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
Education is the key

you didn't read the entire post did ya.

mensniche · 12-12-2004, 03:22 PM

to be honest I don?t think there is much point worrying about it, you will just put yourself in a early grave and then who can you help?

I think charities should also operate less like charities and more like businesses, who the hell wants to go to oxfam to by there shopping, oxfam with there massive retail base should actually start competition with the Virgins and Wallmarts to maximize there market share... but hell these are just my thoughts off the top of my head.

Also what the hell are people sponsoring fucking elephants and donkeys in Africa when they could be spending the $$ on helping the children.

Also you states helping the homeless... i personally think that the government (in the UK at least) do everything anyone needs to get a home and a job, less than 1% unemployed at the moment, anybody that?s on the streets seems to want to be there or are so drugged/pissed up that they cannot take the help available.

Anyways... maybe I'm wrong just my 2cents

BRISK · 12-12-2004, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
you didn't read the entire post did ya.

Yes, I did

and that is my opinion

education is key

BRISK · 12-12-2004, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by mensniche
i personally think that the government (in the UK at least) do everything anyone needs to get a home and a job, less than 1% unemployed at the moment

less than 1% unemployment in the UK?

mensniche · 12-12-2004, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
less than 1% unemployment in the UK?

That?s what I read... maybe the figures have been tweaked.. But I know our government and the economy in the UK kicks ass at the moment!

NBDesign · 12-12-2004, 03:35 PM

1st off, stop giving to organizations... they have employees to pay, overhead and so on... so you 10 punds isn't really helping anyone...

Instead, take that same 10 pounds and give it to some homless person on the street.. or buy them a room for the night to get warm and clean... buy them a dinner...

There are so many things you can do as an individual. Sure, you may only help one person... but do you really think that your 10 pound donation to an organization will go as far?

BRISK · 12-12-2004, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mensniche
That?s what I read... maybe the figures have been tweaked.. But I know our government and the economy in the UK kicks ass at the moment!

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=12

mensniche · 12-12-2004, 04:13 PM

thanks bro will check it out

12-12-2004, 02:52 PM	#1
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	Changing the world... I was sitting in Starbucks today and purchased a Big Issue of a vendor outside (£2 it was!!)... I started flicking through the magazine and came across advert after advert of organisations asking for money for the homeless, sick, poor, kids, diseases... You name it, it was there. The same adverts asking for money, YET every year nothing changes. I can give ten pounds and it will help a few people, I can run a project and it will help a few people but how can I help change the world? How can I or us few change the mindset of the greedy and the ignorant (i would include myself in that definition). Where on your list is trying to change things for the better? Is having money yourself and getting drunk an higher priority than trying to change the world. I do wonder, a lot, and it makes me feel so fucking god damn useless. Is anything we do going to change the world.. Education is the key, this is what we get told.. this is the thing that can change the mindset of everyone. But then you go to school/university and you get told your the top 1% in the world, you get told ur doing this to GET A GOOD JOB and EARN GOOD MONEY and to compete and stamp down on those that get in the way. Top organisations being unethically exploiting other countries (but this is ok, cuz its for money.) I don't know, theres really no point to this post.. Just sometimes, things make me feel so useless. __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

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12-12-2004, 03:22 PM	#7
mensniche Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 455	to be honest I don?t think there is much point worrying about it, you will just put yourself in a early grave and then who can you help? I think charities should also operate less like charities and more like businesses, who the hell wants to go to oxfam to by there shopping, oxfam with there massive retail base should actually start competition with the Virgins and Wallmarts to maximize there market share... but hell these are just my thoughts off the top of my head. Also what the hell are people sponsoring fucking elephants and donkeys in Africa when they could be spending the $$ on helping the children. Also you states helping the homeless... i personally think that the government (in the UK at least) do everything anyone needs to get a home and a job, less than 1% unemployed at the moment, anybody that?s on the streets seems to want to be there or are so drugged/pissed up that they cannot take the help available. Anyways... maybe I'm wrong just my 2cents __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

12-12-2004, 03:35 PM	#11
NBDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell Posts: 5,814	1st off, stop giving to organizations... they have employees to pay, overhead and so on... so you 10 punds isn't really helping anyone... Instead, take that same 10 pounds and give it to some homless person on the street.. or buy them a room for the night to get warm and clean... buy them a dinner... There are so many things you can do as an individual. Sure, you may only help one person... but do you really think that your 10 pound donation to an organization will go as far? __________________ Use Lensman's program and get the most for your hard earned traffic. Get Heidi for your site Here. Lots of sets to choose from. She makes a great Addition to any site. Grab one Grab All.

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12-12-2004, 04:13 PM	#13
mensniche Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 455	thanks bro will check it out __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.