Exactly ... But no, it's a female, so half of GFY will stand up for her by default.

few more posts and we'll hit 5 pages

interesting :glugglug

God I love this place :winkwink:

:thumbsup :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Out of nowhere one day, PrivateIvy made a mean-spirited attack on my business on this board just for sport. From then on she is just a filthy mouth unprofessional skank in my opinion.

does she really think that "this will be my only post on the matter" is going to hold up? :helpme




/edit - I dont want any drama, so this will be my only post on the matter. :Groucho

you're a dumb ass LOL

I Totally agree.....Private Ivy appears to be nothing but a cheating Ho:1orglaugh

I had no clue who she was, she made a comment about us in another thread so I went to her site out of curiosity, I looked at about two pages, had enough and clicked out, then I got a pop up, with my thumbs on it, saying something like join now to see it, so I did :)

Now the page is gone, well I cant find it and the content has been deleted,

So the lesson here Ivy needs to know,

People who live in glass houses shouldn?t throw stones

People usually say that when they have done the indefensable and know that their actions won't hold up to the questions of the general public. :2 cents:

Exactly :)

But its the best how she pulled the content down... I mean really if you were doing nothing wrong explain to us what we were missing...

this is what she sent me on icq today.. and i will admit I got a good laugh!

"You know as well as I do that each of those galleries had an active link to MP so in my eyes, you're making desperate attempts to get attention to your program by trying to trash others "

Yep defently a desperate attempt to gain exposure from your name... yeah thats it... if we were here for the exposure we would be on someone who has exposure like JUICY :)

This is totally a touchy subject, and it does happen. I feel giving free content is ok to do for the use of upsells, but most people do and will abuse it.

Wouldn't one idea to have a limit on the amount of content used compared to the amount of links to the content.

What I mean is say there must be at least one link to said site for every 10 pictures used. The links must be spread out in a way to make it obvious that it is from a certain site.

Many programs give away content in bulk loads so it makes it easy for someone to say fuck it and use more then what should be an alloted amount.

Using pix in tours, joins pages and etc is just wrong. Content is very cheap these days and you can purchase a set or two to use for less then a join.

If she had nothing to hide, she would have made the link to your site work and keep everything the same. Pulling down the content shows guilt unless you and her made an agreement which appears in this thread did not happen. :glugglug

I'm going to nominate her for GFY donkeys next month. :thumbsup :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

couldnt have said it better myself.:thumbsup

Sorry, but if a program changes their linking code, it only makes sense to grandfather the old codes. I've got sponsor content from dozens of sites used as upsells in paysites, AVS, free sites etc. Changing them all everytime a model decides to jump ship isn't practical if the link was hard coded.

Ivy put up free content given to affiliates. She posted the banner & link that was correct at the time. If anybody is getting screwed here, isn't it Ivy? Her members are now being sent where? Your 404? :helpme



For the people complaining about upsells in the members area...ya'll should really try joining some of the paysites you promote. How do you think they're paying $35 on a $2.95 trial???

Ahhh...that's another story. Displaying other content on the tour without a link or "content provided by:" is likely a clear cut TOS violation, not to mention rather misleading for the surfers.

Oh, we're in good company here!!!! First rip into a well respected GFYer - Private Ivory. Then Rictor sites and links another webmaster board. Guess a noob still and isn't familar with GFY rules. Guess he's all class?

Now let's talk about mediumpimpin. Not just the user on GFY, the whole program. Hardly ones to be talkin about treating affiliates fairly. That's like in changing no exit links without notice to the affiliate to two exit consoles. Affiliates bandwidth. Affiliates traffic. Either affiliates or MPs content. No compensation to the affiliate for the exits.

That's all right cause MP supplied the banners and the sites convert well (1:6000+ for TGP traffic) and they are xselling unknown sites like ND. Not anything a typical affilate would handle.

Guess it's there right to add exits if they want. That's why a TGP site has to be checkin galleries including links to big sponsors all the time.

Then there is the polite (cough) one line email from support in reponse to questions about exits and asking for help in promoting MP.

Ivy called it when she said an email or ICQ would be more pro. She'd be right.

For the record, Ivy responds to affiliate emails questions, even dumb ones and does it with respect.

MPs content is quailty, I'll give ya that. That means someone is going to steal it. Private Ivy on purpose? Wouldn't believe it for a second.

I started checking some of my sponsors by doing just that. Some real shocks on how some sponsors treat their members. You'd epect no exits etc. Or I did. I'd be wrong.

It's not in me to rip a sponsor by violation of a TOS and spending the $2.95 to get $35. So fairly checking sponsors can get expensive for the little guy.

I didn't link the screen caps, scroll up to see them as they took awhile to load. Plus I missed the pics as I read every post in the thread before making a comment. It shows art I know to be from MP. Seen it before. What is unfair about that comment is there is a red-x banner box that prolly was a link to MP.

you know PL, I would have agreed with you except for one thing.. using the content to design her tour.. that is so against the rules for any free content..

I think Private Ivy needs to admit what she did and apologize ... the way she's handling this is really wrong in my opinion, I mean does she think if she doesn't respond that this thread will just go away and no one will remember it?

Private Ivy, I've always thought of you as a stand up person.. so you did something wrong.. what's the big deal.. admit it and move on for christ's sake.. you're acting like a kid

You honor your name, no matter what? :glugglug

Okay on topic... glad you reposted about the images sorry you missed the first time... facts are facts...

Second... not to start shit but this is not the place nor the time to get into the whole exits thing. But so you know, we have removed exits we did realize that some webmasters were unhappy with them so we acted on it, I never got an email from you or any contact for that matter so I can not speak for Kevin (Medium Pimpin) and what yourself and Kevin have discussed all but again they have been removed and I will apologize for any miscommunication that has happened in the past. If there is any way we can gain you back as a webmaster or anything we can do to please you contact me and let?s talk!

We all know programs will do things that will not make all their webmasters happy and what we did was one of them but we have acted on it and resolved the issue. So with that like I have mentioned I would like to burry it with you also, put it behind us... Seems stupid to sit here and dwell on it?

:2 cents:

Looks like i missed out on this one.

Your kidding right? How is Ivy getting screwed and who screwed her members besides herself? If she would have done the right thing and purchased content to fill her members area, there wouldn't be an issue at all. She tried to get away with using as much free content as she could and then charged her members to see it. Looks to me like she screwed hereslf and her members.

Hey Tia,
Not sure how I could be acting like a kid as you stated, because I made one post in this thread that basically explained everything and I didn't see a need to post anything further.

I had active links to MP in all the galleries they provided to me and I have now pulled them down , so end of story on that. ( notice the red x's on their screen caps...those were active links )

As for the page I had on my site that showed small thumbnails of numerous "girlfriends" that I featured in the members area to give them an idea of who was inside, it honestly never ocurred to me that it was considered "stealing" . I had always had that page, since back in 2002 and I'm sure I got the idea from other sites that were doing the same, many of which used my own image and name and I never thought twice about it because I knew they were promoting me in their members area.

So many single model sites use thumbnails on their update pages , etc. to show when they add a new girlfriend feature ( girlfriend gallery exchanges,etc.) and until this thread I never thought anything about it.

I have pulled that page down, because I do understand the point that was made on that.

I don't see any need to stay here and dwell on this issue and reply to every accusation or hate post ? If that makes me childish, then I guess I'm childish.

I stand behind my statement that if there was an issue, I should have been contacted via email or ICQ and it would have been handled promptly. I understand bringing drama to the boards as a last result , etc. and this was not the case.

OH, and lastly, thanks MP for the joins :-

Ivy

Ivy I am not gonna choose sides but I am sure you read every post in this thread so I am gonna ask it again.

A few months back you had a problem with HeatherHamptons, YOU decided to take it to the boards, why didn't you handle it through ICQ or e-mail back then?

:winkwink:

Hello welcome back to the thread :)

Yes I think now after reading up and finding more about that, why do you feel we should give you special treatment?

I posted a statement, actually a press release, on the board back then because their were untrue accusations being made about my business and I felt the need. A model broke her contract with me , cost me money and because I enforced my contract, she made up reasons and excuses that were untrue. End of story....

Ivy

"We" ? :1orglaugh

Dude I am just stating the obvious, thats all. And she replied :glugglug

It's not special treatment... it's common courtesy and more than that, because I actually was an affiliate it is professional courtesy. Instead of a quick email or ICQ to say hey, you can't use those thumbnails on your site or whatever, you come to the board with "Is PrivateIvy Stealing Your Content? "

Ivy

Thanks for the reply post. The thread hit a nerve and I went off a bit and off topic. The exits argument could go on for ever, you are right.. MP links have been back for awhile. Call it burried!

Looks like all is being resolved between the parties. Ok, a little tense. That's the way it happens sometimes.

High respect for Ivy still intact. I see the logic she used and it is resolved now. Drama good for GFY post count. Ivy makes a good point about resolving things off the boards when possible.

Thanks for the support :winkwink:

For the record, after reading more of this thread that I missed because I was out all evening, my members area is NOT made up of tons of sponsor content. I have over 10,000 images of myself, over 100 of my own videos, my live camshows, etc. etc.

My "Girlfriends" section started in 2002 doing girlfriend gallery exchanges with other models ( you know they feature me to their members, I feature them) It worked really well and when I ran out of time to seek out new trades, I started using sponsor content and conversions were awesome. Until today, I didn't realize how large that section had gotten , LOL and have actually just finished removing all the older galleries.

My own content is what dominates my members area, having been updated weekly since 2002, and that is why my members stay with me and my affiliates enjoy awesome rebills.

And now, I'm done with the drama LOL .... I should have crashed an hour ago , but I'm climbing into bed now so you guys can drama by yourselves :Graucho

Ivy

actually, on GFY someone else came and posted it, mailman had nothing to do with the initial posting here on GFY...

..:eek7

and you only let me see like 6 of them?

how dare you:Graucho

ahhh...but actually, they joined my site, they saw the ref code in my members area that linked to their site to show I was an affiliate , they had an issue, but instead of contacting me , they took it to the boards :2 cents:


Ivy

There it is.. thank you! :)

People always seem to over look that fact with drama threads of WHO started it...

and PlatinumPimp when I said "WE" I was not talking about you and me I was talking about MP and WE as a company.