understandable...

But we have always been good with our content we have some of the best so we dont kill it by resizing it and watermarking it and we have a ton of issues with stolen contnet and russians and now stupid things like this from people who again we would assume knows better...

Things like this are going to make us want to change and just fall into the shoadows of everyone eles with small shitty content big watermarks and stupid shit, its really a shame...

You do realize that your MP thread is going to be extremely bias, while a thread here at GFY is going to be a bit less bias since nobody is in love with MP or Ivy.

This issue should have been taken up with Ivy privately. If you don't have a TOS that forbids actions like this, make one. If Ivy's members section is so horrible that she relies on sponsor content, thats her problem.

THIS would be the way to do it if you were going to do it..

PI on the other hand is just using it for her advantage with tons of full sets! Sure her members and webmasters might be happy if the site rebills but we get the shit stick!

Isnt it standard that you can only use content to promote the site who owns the content? Id be suprised if this wasnt in there TOC's

Maybe the broken link back to the sponsor was a mistake? maybe they got all the other links right but this one was a mistake?

If I was the sponsor I would think that maybe it wasnt, but would have also first taken it up with Private Ivy

you guys haven't been very clear about describing the specifics of this situation

how many of these large MP galleries are inside Ivy's members area?

and is MP content used on her tour?

send her an invoice from http://www.pimpincontent.com/

hahahaha

you all need to realize that MP didn't bring this drama here......someone else did
i saw this on the MP board yesterday, and i think they are in the process of dealing with it

you're an idiot. your saying someone that uses too much free content that was provided to them is the same as stealing content. and if its not in the rules its the programs fault.

No hes saying someone using all his content WITHOUT a correct link back is the same.

Using someone elses content for your members area without a link back is the same.

But maybe she didnt know?

was the broken banner link her fault or yours because you changed your codes and she didnt update? im sure either way the link isnt broken on purpose. dont you think it would have been more professional to ask her to fix the link?

exactly...

as we did mention it was her site well after the thread started on our board its still an issue.. mabey paysite owners can see it our way mabey not! but there is still an issue here..

becuase you have a pussy and you get naked for the camera we should treat you better and be like its okay baby.. if a russian did this or some little ghetto ass site people would be on them like a fly on shit..

scew all this double standard BS in the industry!

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http://nyonic.com/gfy/seesig.jpg

i think anything like pills or dvds are fine for upsells, but if you have a revshare site and you send members to different paysites it increases their chances of canceling, which is pretty much fucking the affiliate.

I agree 100% It's a shitty thing to do

no you are the idiot - every webmaster who isn't a natural born scammer knows EXACTLY what the purpose of FREE CONTENT provided by an affiliate program is for and what it is NOT for. And using it as bonus content ain't cool, using it on a tour is definitely not cool - using it to promote the affiliate program who gave it to you is the ONLY valid use for it. NOT beefing up your own skimpy members area and just slapping the banner up as an afterthought.

Using it as bonus content is perfectly fine if its used correctly and the sponsor doesn't have a problem with it. Most sponsors don't, but some do. Oliver Klosav, for example, doesn't allow such actions.

Using sponsor content appropriately as bonus content can make for great joins to the sponsor. Turning that away is just silly unless the sponsor is trying to protect a certain image, like Playboy for example.

using the content in your members area (assuming you have their banners with the content) is a great idea as far as sending them sales. a program would have to be crazy to not want them to send qualified surfers. if you use it in the tour you arent exactly promoting their site with any links though and it defeats the purpose of free content and it is actually stealing. using it as bonus content isnt any different than using it for tgp galleries. if the sponsor wants to limit how much of the content you use at a time they shouldnt make that much available, or put it in their terms of service.

its nice to see someone actually has a clue.

okay when you get a paysite.. we will put up a freinds section and take 50+ HQ photos from you hell mabey more since you think its a good idea... and list them in our sites and then just put your banner at the very bottom for no one to see..

Sounds great man!! :thumbsup

If you're serious I'll be sure to let you know. Of course, my images will be watermarked and removing such watermark will be against my TOS.

thank god :)

again we dont have a problem with it.. guess when you have a bronken link to your site and they use full sets its an issue..

Again we offer a lot of exclusive cotent for webmasters to use and we list the whole set so you can make a good gallery and pick the content you want to match your promoting (ie, nonnude, hardcore etc..) and not to use the full set for paysites! Someone like Ivy who we would assume knows that did not..

Sorry Sly I was just being an ass.. we dont need a "FRIENDS" section to get rebills.

That message was more for Mutt.

Like I said before, if she needs to rely on sponsor content and thinks its a good idea to use full sets of sponsor content... maybe she isn't the great webmaster she claims to be. You and I both know better than that.

And I was being an ass as well. But my offer still does stand. 2 :)

Okay got ya! Sorry for that.. and yeah I know we know better!

Hey Jace.. good point! And that's why here at XtremePay we offer the option to build a custom 'store' that will nicely fit right into your current members section. That way you retain your customer, your customer also feels there is more value to YOUR paysite PLUS you get the upsell without losing the traffic ANYWHERE.

We currently have this set-up going with a few sponsors, and if anyone else is interested in making more sales from their members section, then please hit me up (ICQ #233854608)

Want to give it a go, but you're worried about your affiliates losing out and not wanting to send traffic to your paysite anymore?

We have THAT covered too!

We can INTEGRATE our affiliate program with yours so that you can also provide your webmasters with additional commissions for any upsells completed in your members section. And no, you don't have to give us ANY information on your current affiliates - the power and beauty of excellent programming :winkwink:

XtremePay is the perfect answer to making more money with your current traffic/members.

Anyone interested, please hit me up and let's get things rolling!

:thumbsup

http://www.privateivy.com/girlfriends.htm

check the pop up..

I guess you could say shes using our content in the tour!

Penny Flame
Jade Hsu
Alexa

These 3 sets are confirmed to be ours.. looking for more still.

i agree 100%, the first thing that came to mind when i saw this thread was when sexped was using the adult.com content for his background with that tiny little text link. as would be expected, the shit completely flew, but this isnt so far from that and everyone seems oddly quiet..

Way to make yourself look like an asshole :thumbsup

free content is for promoting the program who gave it to you - if you want to market it to your members as 'bonus content' that's fine - but sorry, when you're putting up galleries of 50+ images and multiple galleries from multiple sponsors your main intent isn't promoting the site the images came from - your main intent is picking up some free content for your members
area, and that does piss off most programs who sink big bucks into their own content.

this is a road well travelled during the heyday of AVS.

Johny, Yes. infact that is the one requirment is that we can do this. And it is also the reason that we limit the number of photos and the number of sets. We do not fill our members area with other people stuff. We only have about 8 " Friends " listed at any given time. If they dont convert, we remove them.

Drama.....mpa2 sucks anyways ;-)


But MP rox I have had someone rebilling for 7 months now

Thats theft

This will be my only post on this matter.

I have never stolen content from any company nor individual.

Each week within my members area and the members areas of 12 other websites I run, I feature a "Girlfriend" of the week and yes, these are mostly sponsors I'm promoting to my members.

It is qualified traffic...the best you can get and my members area traffic converts on average around 1:34.

I promote other single model sites like Naughty Allie and others and also use programs like Twisted Cash and NSCash and do very well with them.

Programs that don't offer zipped content, I email to ask for zipped galleries and let them know that I'm using them in my members area as an upsell.

We all make money and I'm using content that has been provided to me by each program.

As for medium pimpin, I am not promoting their program at all. I did so in the past and will have to check to see if perhaps there is something old in there that I've overlooked ( I have over 200 girlfriend galleries I believe) The only one that comes to mind is a gallery of Crissy Moran which is currently linking to a 404 because of all the drama they had when she left them and I just haven't had time to pull it down.

Again, this will be my only post to this thread. If someone has an issue with how I conduct my business, it is more professional to bring it up in email.

Ivy

yeah thats definitely something for you to get pissed about, i agree with you as far as using it on the tour.

thats not a nice thing to say at all...:(

yes, now welcome to the real reality of the average webmaster retard