The Geo-Targeting Craze - GoFuckYourself.com

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 12:29 PM

Although this may not be much of a prediction, allow me to here and now say, I predict a major increase of geo-targeted ads in tours, pop-ups, webcam ads, and dating sites in the adult industry. It's not too hard to figure out why. Geo-targeting ads are quickly becoming the next big thing. Why? Because they get the surfers attention and curiosity.

What is geo-targeting? Simply put, by using a surfer's IP to determine information about them and use it towards the ads they are shown while visiting your site. Targeting your audience by geography means using region-specific advertising, and with more and more countries getting online, geo-targeting is a method you will surely see being used more and... (read more)

my proofreader got deported if you see any grammar errors please mention them heheh

http://www.fletchxxx.com/geo-targeting.html

detoxed · 12-10-2004, 01:15 PM

Unfortunately unless it gets better it will just piss a lot of people off. Never seen one be within 200 miles of me.

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
Unfortunately unless it gets better it will just piss a lot of people off. Never seen one be within 200 miles of me.

mine is narrowed down the zipcode of my ip... maybe its because i am in california

Morgan · 12-10-2004, 01:18 PM

You're right. Ive been fascinated by this for a long time now, and yes. going to impliment this in the near future.

Before it was even doable, I was questioning if it were possible.

BTW, whenever I see one, ,it always has "Newport Beach" which is the exact city I live. It's not a very big city either.

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
You're right. Ive been fascinated by this for a long time now, and yes. going to impliment this in the near future.

Before it was even doable, I was questioning if it were possible.

BTW, whenever I see one, ,it always has "Newport Beach" which is the exact city I live. It's not a very big city either.

Nice. Mind if I ask, if its for tour stuff or for pushing a dating sponsor or something?

i think the tour uniqueness will appeal to many but what happens when they are looking for people in Newport Beach.

As you mine is narrowed down to the city.

Damian_Maxcash · 12-10-2004, 02:24 PM

AFF gets down to my suburb in London.

Not bad!!

JSA Matt · 12-10-2004, 02:33 PM

For anyone looking to setup geo-targeting..

http://www.ip2location.com/

I have this database and believe it is one of the best, if not THE best, available. If anyone knows of a better one, feel free to post ;)

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by damian2001
AFF gets down to my suburb

same here

its not hard to geo-target zipcodes in the US and display ads.

so if you can identify the zipcode of an ip, thats way enough info to locate that city on a map or in a database.

kmanrox · 12-10-2004, 02:36 PM

geo targetting is seriously old news

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by kmanrox
geo targetting is seriously old news

ive been reading articles on it for over a year. I know. it is in mainstream, but not adult.

that doesnt change the fact that its only now being openly used in affiliate programs.

its old news but aff just started doing it ;)

and its blowing up. as a designer and knowing coders, it is blowing up, those working with people designing tours and ads for these geo0ip advertisements see lots of behind the scenes

fuzebox · 12-10-2004, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by kmanrox
geo targetting is seriously old news

The technology is, but everyone is picking it up now... Within a month you'll see a city (maybe yours or not) plastered on way more paysite tours, banner ads, TGPs, galleries, etc than now.

- Jesus Christ - · 12-10-2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by kmanrox
geo targetting is seriously old news

Yea no shit.

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzebox
The technology is, but everyone is picking it up now... Within a month you'll see a city (maybe yours or not) plastered on way more paysite tours, banner ads, TGPs, galleries, etc than now.

TGPs have been using country GEO targeting longer than anyone....

and I don't see how its gonna help paysites. Unless they want to offer somthign thier not gonna diliver like localized content.

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Yea no shit. TGPs have been using country GEO targeting longer than anyone....

there is a difference between identifying a country

and this

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=400509&s=

Sly · 12-10-2004, 02:49 PM

I've gotten Georgia on some, haha. But usually it says El Cajon, which is only a couple miles away from me. Realistically it should say La Mesa or San Carlos.

- Jesus Christ - · 12-10-2004, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
there is a difference between identifying a country

and this

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=400509&s=

yea that differences is a larger database.

Local databases for the US are nothing new.

Even the AFF database gives me the wrong city some of the time.

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
yea that differences is a larger database.

Local databases for the US are nothing new.

Even the AFF database gives me the wrong city some of the time.

no.

meaning a desktop app to do geo-ip ads.

- Jesus Christ - · 12-10-2004, 02:55 PM

that is cool

But it doesnt account for all this recent "omg GEO IP IS SO NEW AND THE BEST"

I think thats due to the AFF ads.

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 02:56 PM

no one is saying the shit is new. fuck, ive read articles about this since 2001-ish?

the point is its blowing up, like it or not, agree or disagree.

ask coders and designers who work these boards daily and see whos buying what for the next trend.

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
that is cool

But it doesnt account for all this recent "omg GEO IP IS SO NEW AND THE BEST"

where did i say that? I simply pointed at a coming trend. and you are correct about AFF. GFY has lots of lurkers... threads on gfy about geo-ip affiliate programs do in fact spark lots of people to seek the same.

coders (this week) have noticed increased numbers in people inquiring about it.

i think that says it all .

webair · 12-10-2004, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by kmanrox
geo targetting is seriously old news

ok that sig pic is getting old =)

J$tyle$ · 12-10-2004, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
that is cool

But it doesnt account for all this recent "omg GEO IP IS SO NEW AND THE BEST"

I think thats due to the AFF ads.

I agree, AFF has fueled the interest without a doubt!

They publicly released the "iframe ads" first, but I offered them the ability to utilize our Geo marketing graphics a couple months back and they declined because they were already in development - kudos to them for their efforts.

I think what we have brought to market is superior in generating eyeballs, however.

We are supposed to be a business of SMART MARKETERS, all the naysayers and "this isn't MY CITY" people are missing the point.

If it's accurate only 70% of the time and doubles or triples click-thru rates and revenue- wtf?

Just use it!

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 07:17 PM

jstyles, let me know when you got something for the common man and not big sponsors. ;)

you know, designers (like me) could really use this type of program.

not knowing code is a hard thing when trying to keep up with current trends in design such as this.

some can design or code, few can do both.

J$tyle$ · 12-10-2004, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
jstyles, let me know when you got something for the common man and not big sponsors. ;)

you know, designers (like me) could really use this type of program.

not knowing code is a hard thing when trying to keep up with current trends in design such as this.

some can design or code, few can do both.

Timing is everything, Fletch!

I was in and out of meetings today and I received a call regarding your post. We discussed having YOU develop some designs and utilize our app to show examples of how this could benefit ANYONE!

The ease of use is almost rediculous. The application was developed for designers with no need for additional programming!

Hit me on ICQ for authorization and let's discuss! I'll be on and off the computer all night!

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$

I was in and out of meetings today and I received a call regarding your post. We discussed having YOU develop some designs and utilize our app to show examples of how this could benefit ANYONE!

very cool.

email me anytime man, and im not hard to find ;)

fletch @ fletchxxx dot com

J$tyle$ · 12-10-2004, 08:41 PM

Will do!

Thanks, bro

Check this http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...45#post6047545

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$
Will do!

Thanks, bro

Check this http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...45#post6047545

very nice.

the use of the bold lettering makes it stand out even more and sthats what you want.

A+

BIGTYMER · 12-10-2004, 09:37 PM

J$tyle$ · 12-10-2004, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
very nice.

the use of the bold lettering makes it stand out even more and sthats what you want.

A+

thanks

just trying to make the point that ... it's all marketing

and there are many types of offers that could be made that will generate MORE VISITORS to webmaster's or affiliate program's sites

Fletch XXX · 12-10-2004, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
thanks

just trying to make the point that ... it's all marketing

and there are many types of offers that could be made that will generate MORE VISITORS to webmaster's or affiliate program's sites

dragons man, nothing is limited.

Babagirls · 12-10-2004, 10:31 PM

as long as the tours can convert the clicks into sales, it'll be the next best thing.

dcortez · 12-11-2004, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
geo targetting is seriously old news

exactly.

-Dino

cherrylula · 12-11-2004, 12:39 AM

2HousePlague · 12-11-2004, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
I agree, AFF has fueled the interest without a doubt!

They publicly released the "iframe ads" first, but I offered them the ability to utilize our Geo marketing graphics a couple months back and they declined because they were already in development - kudos to them for their efforts.

I think what we have brought to market is superior in generating eyeballs, however.

We are supposed to be a business of SMART MARKETERS, all the naysayers and "this isn't MY CITY" people are missing the point.

If it's accurate only 70% of the time and doubles or triples click-thru rates and revenue- wtf?

Just use it!

Thanks for the kudos, Jonathan.

I would recommend J$tyle$'s solution to anyone. We were simply going in a slightly different direction with our offering.

j-

ztik · 12-11-2004, 02:09 AM

and here comes the year 2000
everyone is so slow to catch on

European Lee · 12-11-2004, 02:09 AM

The GEO:IP Apache module is nothing new and those of us who saw the advantages of geo filtering both their traffic and ads dynamically embraced this method of marketing more than 4 years ago.

The fact that it is only catching on among the general webmaster / affiliate program populous now shows just how old this technology is and, unfortunately, you have missed the boat for making any serious money utilizing this technology.

Welcome to the year 2000 finally

Regards,

Lee

European Lee · 12-11-2004, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ztik
and here comes the year 2000
everyone is so slow to catch on

Haha oh shit i posted the same thing a few seconds after you

It never ceases to amaze me how un-educated the adult industry is when it comes to new technology, they wait until what currently works no longer does, then embraces 5 year old technology that anyone worth a grain of salt has already been using productively.

Regards,

Lee

Fletch XXX · 12-11-2004, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Haha oh shit i posted the same thing a few seconds after you

It never ceases to amaze me how un-educated the adult industry is when it comes to new technology, they wait until what currently works no longer does, then embraces 5 year old technology that anyone worth a grain of salt has already been using productively.

Regards,

Lee

my favorite thing about the adult industry is:

those who have the loudest opinion are still working for someone else ;)

European Lee · 12-11-2004, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
my favorite thing about the adult industry is:

those who have the loudest opinion are still working for someone else

That is also true although, not in my case

Regards,

Lee

Fletch XXX · 12-11-2004, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
That is also true although, not in my case

Regards,

Lee

absolutely true in your case.

;)

i remember you leaving here

European Lee · 12-11-2004, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
absolutely true in your case.

Really? Please inform me who i work for then

Regards,

Lee

Fletch XXX · 12-11-2004, 02:16 AM

please, leave this thread.

i know your game, you troll for whatever company you are working for. leave this thread out please.

European Lee · 12-11-2004, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
but please, leave this thread.

i know your game, you troll for whatever company you are working for. leave this thread out please.

Face it, GEO::IP is an antiquainted marketing tool, those of you who are to dumb to have realized its potential 4 or 5 years ago have missed the boat for making any serious money from this technology.

As to the 'whatever company you are working for' comment, again, please tell me ANY company i have worked for other than my own in the last 6 years i have been in the adult industry.

Regards,

Lee

Fletch XXX · 12-11-2004, 02:21 AM

http://www.fletchxxx.com/geo-targeting.html

JulianSosa · 12-11-2004, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Face it, GEO::IP is an antiquainted marketing tool, those of you who are to dumb to have realized its potential 4 or 5 years ago have missed the boat for making any serious money from this technology.

As to the 'whatever company you are working for' comment, again, please tell me ANY company i have worked for other than my own in the last 6 years i have been in the adult industry.

Regards,

Lee

Ya im so pissed at myself for using sexsearches geo ip based ads and getting 40% more clicks the last 3 days..

European Lee · 12-11-2004, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa
Ya im so pissed at myself for using sexsearches geo ip based ads and getting 40% more clicks the last 3 days..

40% in the last 3 days or.. 100% in the last 4 years.. what you rather have? Hindsight is a bitch and a half ;)

Regards,

Lee

JulianSosa · 12-11-2004, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee

40% in the last 3 days or.. 100% in the last 4 years.. what you rather have? Hindsight is a bitch and a half ;)

Regards,

Lee

I have only been in this biz about 12 months so I am sorry I am just happy to make more money today and tommorow.

Im glad you made cash on this thing over the last few years but I am more concerned about what I am making today.

J$tyle$ · 12-11-2004, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Haha oh shit i posted the same thing a few seconds after you

It never ceases to amaze me how un-educated the adult industry is when it comes to new technology, they wait until what currently works no longer does, then embraces 5 year old technology that anyone worth a grain of salt has already been using productively.

Regards,

Lee

Lee,

Your arrogance amazes me!

LOL

Are you saying AFF isn't worth a grain of salt?

You can't be serious?

Regardless of how long the technology to sort by IP has been around - it is no matter. I personally believe the ability to generate these ads in this manner is worth a lot more today than you seem to be willing to give it credit for.

I'm sure AFF could argue that point to the amount of thousands of profiles and sales per day MORE than they were generating just 1 short month ago!

That's only one small example.

BTW - You seem to forget you live in this tiny little "gay adult" world. Adult is a smidgen of the $$$ to be made from Geo-marketing. Gay adult an even smaller smidgen.

I'm presently working on implementing a huge deployment of Geo-Marketing for a leading online lending exchange that connects consumers with lenders and realtors. This company has facilitated nearly $90 billion in closed loan and real estate transactions since 1998.

Please get down off of your high horse, ok?

Fletch XXX · 12-11-2004, 02:38 AM

jstyles, seriously, dont even quote her. you are quoting someone who is basically paid to intervene threads to stir up hype.

show restraint

i promise euro lee will simply try to urge on for the sake of whatever sig paid to fly.

2HousePlague · 12-11-2004, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
Lee,

Your arrogance amazes me!

LOL

Are you saying AFF isn't worth a grain of salt?

You can't be serious?

Regardless of how long the technology to sort by IP has been around - it is no matter. I personally believe the ability to generate these ads in this manner is worth a lot more today than you seem to be willing to give it credit for.

I'm sure AFF could argue that point to the amount of thousands of profiles and sales per day MORE than they were generating just 1 short month ago!

That's only one small example.

You seem to forget you live in this tiny little "gay adult" world. Adult is a smidgen of the $$$ to be made from Geo-marketing. Gay adult an even smaller smidgen.

I'm presently working on implementing a huge deployment of Geo-Marketing for a leading online lending exchange that connects consumers with lenders and realtors. This company has facilitated nearly $90 billion in closed loan and real estate transactions since 1998.

Please get down off of your high horse, ok?

Yah. I think the issue here is not how long the technology has been around, or whether those who are expounding its benefits are behind the times. The most important question is are they being used effectively and to advantage today? The answer -- abso-fucking-lutely.

j-

European Lee · 12-11-2004, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostyle
[B]Are you saying AFF isn't worth a grain of salt?

Where did i even mention AFF? Stop putting words into my posts

Quote:

Regardless of how long the technology to sort by IP has been around - it is no matter. I personally believe the ability to generate these ads in this manner is worth a lot more today than you seem to be willing to give it credit for.

You are entitled to your opinion just as i am mine

Quote:

BTW - You seem to forget you live in this tiny little "gay adult" world. Adult is a smidgen of the $$$ to be made from Geo-marketing. Gay adult an even smaller smidgen.

Again, where did i say we had implemented this old technology? People seem to think all we do is gay stuff... this really int the case just as it isnt the case that it is purely adult orientated businesses we run.

You have used ICQ right? Chances are, you saw some of our geo targeted ads on there without even knowing it was us.

Regards,

Lee

12-10-2004, 12:29 PM	#1
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	The Geo-Targeting Craze Although this may not be much of a prediction, allow me to here and now say, I predict a major increase of geo-targeted ads in tours, pop-ups, webcam ads, and dating sites in the adult industry. It's not too hard to figure out why. Geo-targeting ads are quickly becoming the next big thing. Why? Because they get the surfers attention and curiosity. What is geo-targeting? Simply put, by using a surfer's IP to determine information about them and use it towards the ads they are shown while visiting your site. Targeting your audience by geography means using region-specific advertising, and with more and more countries getting online, geo-targeting is a method you will surely see being used more and... (read more) my proofreader got deported if you see any grammar errors please mention them heheh http://www.fletchxxx.com/geo-targeting.html __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

12-10-2004, 01:18 PM	#4
Morgan Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Corona Del Mar, CA Posts: 10,520	You're right. Ive been fascinated by this for a long time now, and yes. going to impliment this in the near future. Before it was even doable, I was questioning if it were possible. BTW, whenever I see one, ,it always has "Newport Beach" which is the exact city I live. It's not a very big city either. __________________ PornstarPlatinum.com \| TransErotica.com

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kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	geo targetting is seriously old news __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

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Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,339	I've gotten Georgia on some, haha. But usually it says El Cajon, which is only a couple miles away from me. Realistically it should say La Mesa or San Carlos. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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- Jesus Christ - Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ::::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: ::::::\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|:::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::\|\|::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::: Posts: 7,197	that is cool But it doesnt account for all this recent "omg GEO IP IS SO NEW AND THE BEST" I think thats due to the AFF ads. __________________ Amen

12-10-2004, 01:15 PM	#2
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Unfortunately unless it gets better it will just piss a lot of people off. Never seen one be within 200 miles of me.

12-10-2004, 02:24 PM	#6
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	AFF gets down to my suburb in London. Not bad!!

12-10-2004, 02:33 PM	#7
JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	For anyone looking to setup geo-targeting.. http://www.ip2location.com/ I have this database and believe it is one of the best, if not THE best, available. If anyone knows of a better one, feel free to post ;)

12-10-2004, 02:56 PM	#18
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	no one is saying the shit is new. fuck, ive read articles about this since 2001-ish? the point is its blowing up, like it or not, agree or disagree. ask coders and designers who work these boards daily and see whos buying what for the next trend. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

12-10-2004, 07:17 PM	#22
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	jstyles, let me know when you got something for the common man and not big sponsors. ;) you know, designers (like me) could really use this type of program. not knowing code is a hard thing when trying to keep up with current trends in design such as this. some can design or code, few can do both. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

12-10-2004, 08:41 PM	#25
J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	Will do! Thanks, bro Check this http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...45#post6047545

12-10-2004, 09:37 PM	#27
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Yay!

12-10-2004, 10:31 PM	#30
Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	as long as the tours can convert the clicks into sales, it'll be the next best thing. __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500

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cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969

12-11-2004, 02:09 AM	#34
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	and here comes the year 2000 everyone is so slow to catch on

12-11-2004, 02:09 AM	#35
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	The GEO:IP Apache module is nothing new and those of us who saw the advantages of geo filtering both their traffic and ads dynamically embraced this method of marketing more than 4 years ago. The fact that it is only catching on among the general webmaster / affiliate program populous now shows just how old this technology is and, unfortunately, you have missed the boat for making any serious money utilizing this technology. Welcome to the year 2000 finally Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	please, leave this thread. i know your game, you troll for whatever company you are working for. leave this thread out please. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	http://www.fletchxxx.com/geo-targeting.html __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

12-11-2004, 02:38 AM	#48
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	jstyles, seriously, dont even quote her. you are quoting someone who is basically paid to intervene threads to stir up hype. show restraint i promise euro lee will simply try to urge on for the sake of whatever sig paid to fly. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me