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Old 12-10-2004, 12:29 PM   #1
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The Geo-Targeting Craze

Although this may not be much of a prediction, allow me to here and now say, I predict a major increase of geo-targeted ads in tours, pop-ups, webcam ads, and dating sites in the adult industry. It's not too hard to figure out why. Geo-targeting ads are quickly becoming the next big thing. Why? Because they get the surfers attention and curiosity.

What is geo-targeting? Simply put, by using a surfer's IP to determine information about them and use it towards the ads they are shown while visiting your site. Targeting your audience by geography means using region-specific advertising, and with more and more countries getting online, geo-targeting is a method you will surely see being used more and... (read more)

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Unfortunately unless it gets better it will just piss a lot of people off. Never seen one be within 200 miles of me.
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Unfortunately unless it gets better it will just piss a lot of people off. Never seen one be within 200 miles of me.
mine is narrowed down the zipcode of my ip... maybe its because i am in california
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You're right. Ive been fascinated by this for a long time now, and yes. going to impliment this in the near future.

Before it was even doable, I was questioning if it were possible.

BTW, whenever I see one, ,it always has "Newport Beach" which is the exact city I live. It's not a very big city either.
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You're right. Ive been fascinated by this for a long time now, and yes. going to impliment this in the near future.

Before it was even doable, I was questioning if it were possible.

BTW, whenever I see one, ,it always has "Newport Beach" which is the exact city I live. It's not a very big city either.
Nice. Mind if I ask, if its for tour stuff or for pushing a dating sponsor or something?

i think the tour uniqueness will appeal to many but what happens when they are looking for people in Newport Beach.

As you mine is narrowed down to the city.
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AFF gets down to my suburb in London.

Not bad!!
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For anyone looking to setup geo-targeting..

http://www.ip2location.com/

I have this database and believe it is one of the best, if not THE best, available. If anyone knows of a better one, feel free to post ;)
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AFF gets down to my suburb
same here

its not hard to geo-target zipcodes in the US and display ads.

so if you can identify the zipcode of an ip, thats way enough info to locate that city on a map or in a database.
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geo targetting is seriously old news
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geo targetting is seriously old news
ive been reading articles on it for over a year. I know. it is in mainstream, but not adult.

that doesnt change the fact that its only now being openly used in affiliate programs.

its old news but aff just started doing it ;)

and its blowing up. as a designer and knowing coders, it is blowing up, those working with people designing tours and ads for these geo0ip advertisements see lots of behind the scenes
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geo targetting is seriously old news
The technology is, but everyone is picking it up now... Within a month you'll see a city (maybe yours or not) plastered on way more paysite tours, banner ads, TGPs, galleries, etc than now.
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geo targetting is seriously old news
Yea no shit.
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The technology is, but everyone is picking it up now... Within a month you'll see a city (maybe yours or not) plastered on way more paysite tours, banner ads, TGPs, galleries, etc than now.
TGPs have been using country GEO targeting longer than anyone....

and I don't see how its gonna help paysites. Unless they want to offer somthign thier not gonna diliver like localized content.
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Yea no shit. TGPs have been using country GEO targeting longer than anyone....
there is a difference between identifying a country

and this

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I've gotten Georgia on some, haha. But usually it says El Cajon, which is only a couple miles away from me. Realistically it should say La Mesa or San Carlos.
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yea that differences is a larger database.

Local databases for the US are nothing new.

Even the AFF database gives me the wrong city some of the time.
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yea that differences is a larger database.

Local databases for the US are nothing new.

Even the AFF database gives me the wrong city some of the time.
no.

meaning a desktop app to do geo-ip ads.
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that is cool

But it doesnt account for all this recent "omg GEO IP IS SO NEW AND THE BEST"


I think thats due to the AFF ads.
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no one is saying the shit is new. fuck, ive read articles about this since 2001-ish?

the point is its blowing up, like it or not, agree or disagree.

ask coders and designers who work these boards daily and see whos buying what for the next trend.
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that is cool

But it doesnt account for all this recent "omg GEO IP IS SO NEW AND THE BEST"

where did i say that? I simply pointed at a coming trend. and you are correct about AFF. GFY has lots of lurkers... threads on gfy about geo-ip affiliate programs do in fact spark lots of people to seek the same.

coders (this week) have noticed increased numbers in people inquiring about it.

i think that says it all .
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that is cool

But it doesnt account for all this recent "omg GEO IP IS SO NEW AND THE BEST"


I think thats due to the AFF ads.
I agree, AFF has fueled the interest without a doubt!

They publicly released the "iframe ads" first, but I offered them the ability to utilize our Geo marketing graphics a couple months back and they declined because they were already in development - kudos to them for their efforts.

I think what we have brought to market is superior in generating eyeballs, however.

We are supposed to be a business of SMART MARKETERS, all the naysayers and "this isn't MY CITY" people are missing the point.

If it's accurate only 70% of the time and doubles or triples click-thru rates and revenue- wtf?

Just use it!


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jstyles, let me know when you got something for the common man and not big sponsors. ;)

you know, designers (like me) could really use this type of program.

not knowing code is a hard thing when trying to keep up with current trends in design such as this.

some can design or code, few can do both.
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jstyles, let me know when you got something for the common man and not big sponsors. ;)

you know, designers (like me) could really use this type of program.

not knowing code is a hard thing when trying to keep up with current trends in design such as this.

some can design or code, few can do both.
Timing is everything, Fletch!

I was in and out of meetings today and I received a call regarding your post. We discussed having YOU develop some designs and utilize our app to show examples of how this could benefit ANYONE!



The ease of use is almost rediculous. The application was developed for designers with no need for additional programming!

Hit me on ICQ for authorization and let's discuss! I'll be on and off the computer all night!

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I was in and out of meetings today and I received a call regarding your post. We discussed having YOU develop some designs and utilize our app to show examples of how this could benefit ANYONE!

very cool.

email me anytime man, and im not hard to find ;)

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Will do!

Thanks, bro



Check this http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...45#post6047545
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Will do!

Thanks, bro



Check this http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...45#post6047545
very nice.

the use of the bold lettering makes it stand out even more and sthats what you want.

A+
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very nice.

the use of the bold lettering makes it stand out even more and sthats what you want.

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thanks

just trying to make the point that ... it's all marketing

and there are many types of offers that could be made that will generate MORE VISITORS to webmaster's or affiliate program's sites

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just trying to make the point that ... it's all marketing

and there are many types of offers that could be made that will generate MORE VISITORS to webmaster's or affiliate program's sites

dragons man, nothing is limited.
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as long as the tours can convert the clicks into sales, it'll be the next best thing.
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I agree, AFF has fueled the interest without a doubt!

They publicly released the "iframe ads" first, but I offered them the ability to utilize our Geo marketing graphics a couple months back and they declined because they were already in development - kudos to them for their efforts.

I think what we have brought to market is superior in generating eyeballs, however.

We are supposed to be a business of SMART MARKETERS, all the naysayers and "this isn't MY CITY" people are missing the point.

If it's accurate only 70% of the time and doubles or triples click-thru rates and revenue- wtf?

Just use it!



Thanks for the kudos, Jonathan.

I would recommend J$tyle$'s solution to anyone. We were simply going in a slightly different direction with our offering.


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The GEO:IP Apache module is nothing new and those of us who saw the advantages of geo filtering both their traffic and ads dynamically embraced this method of marketing more than 4 years ago.

The fact that it is only catching on among the general webmaster / affiliate program populous now shows just how old this technology is and, unfortunately, you have missed the boat for making any serious money utilizing this technology.

Welcome to the year 2000 finally

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Haha oh shit i posted the same thing a few seconds after you

It never ceases to amaze me how un-educated the adult industry is when it comes to new technology, they wait until what currently works no longer does, then embraces 5 year old technology that anyone worth a grain of salt has already been using productively.

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Haha oh shit i posted the same thing a few seconds after you

It never ceases to amaze me how un-educated the adult industry is when it comes to new technology, they wait until what currently works no longer does, then embraces 5 year old technology that anyone worth a grain of salt has already been using productively.

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those who have the loudest opinion are still working for someone else

That is also true although, not in my case

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That is also true although, not in my case

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absolutely true in your case.

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Old 12-11-2004, 02:15 AM   #40
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absolutely true in your case.
Really? Please inform me who i work for then

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Old 12-11-2004, 02:16 AM   #41
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please, leave this thread.

i know your game, you troll for whatever company you are working for. leave this thread out please.
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Old 12-11-2004, 02:18 AM   #42
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but please, leave this thread.

i know your game, you troll for whatever company you are working for. leave this thread out please.
Face it, GEO::IP is an antiquainted marketing tool, those of you who are to dumb to have realized its potential 4 or 5 years ago have missed the boat for making any serious money from this technology.

As to the 'whatever company you are working for' comment, again, please tell me ANY company i have worked for other than my own in the last 6 years i have been in the adult industry.

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Old 12-11-2004, 02:24 AM   #44
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Face it, GEO::IP is an antiquainted marketing tool, those of you who are to dumb to have realized its potential 4 or 5 years ago have missed the boat for making any serious money from this technology.

As to the 'whatever company you are working for' comment, again, please tell me ANY company i have worked for other than my own in the last 6 years i have been in the adult industry.

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Ya im so pissed at myself for using sexsearches geo ip based ads and getting 40% more clicks the last 3 days..
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Ya im so pissed at myself for using sexsearches geo ip based ads and getting 40% more clicks the last 3 days..


40% in the last 3 days or.. 100% in the last 4 years.. what you rather have? Hindsight is a bitch and a half ;)

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40% in the last 3 days or.. 100% in the last 4 years.. what you rather have? Hindsight is a bitch and a half ;)

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I have only been in this biz about 12 months so I am sorry I am just happy to make more money today and tommorow.

Im glad you made cash on this thing over the last few years but I am more concerned about what I am making today.
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Old 12-11-2004, 02:34 AM   #47
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Haha oh shit i posted the same thing a few seconds after you

It never ceases to amaze me how un-educated the adult industry is when it comes to new technology, they wait until what currently works no longer does, then embraces 5 year old technology that anyone worth a grain of salt has already been using productively.

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Lee,

Your arrogance amazes me!

LOL

Are you saying AFF isn't worth a grain of salt?

You can't be serious?

Regardless of how long the technology to sort by IP has been around - it is no matter. I personally believe the ability to generate these ads in this manner is worth a lot more today than you seem to be willing to give it credit for.

I'm sure AFF could argue that point to the amount of thousands of profiles and sales per day MORE than they were generating just 1 short month ago!

That's only one small example.

BTW - You seem to forget you live in this tiny little "gay adult" world. Adult is a smidgen of the $$$ to be made from Geo-marketing. Gay adult an even smaller smidgen.

I'm presently working on implementing a huge deployment of Geo-Marketing for a leading online lending exchange that connects consumers with lenders and realtors. This company has facilitated nearly $90 billion in closed loan and real estate transactions since 1998.

Please get down off of your high horse, ok?


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jstyles, seriously, dont even quote her. you are quoting someone who is basically paid to intervene threads to stir up hype.

show restraint

i promise euro lee will simply try to urge on for the sake of whatever sig paid to fly.
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Lee,

Your arrogance amazes me!

LOL

Are you saying AFF isn't worth a grain of salt?

You can't be serious?

Regardless of how long the technology to sort by IP has been around - it is no matter. I personally believe the ability to generate these ads in this manner is worth a lot more today than you seem to be willing to give it credit for.

I'm sure AFF could argue that point to the amount of thousands of profiles and sales per day MORE than they were generating just 1 short month ago!

That's only one small example.

You seem to forget you live in this tiny little "gay adult" world. Adult is a smidgen of the $$$ to be made from Geo-marketing. Gay adult an even smaller smidgen.

I'm presently working on implementing a huge deployment of Geo-Marketing for a leading online lending exchange that connects consumers with lenders and realtors. This company has facilitated nearly $90 billion in closed loan and real estate transactions since 1998.

Please get down off of your high horse, ok?



Yah. I think the issue here is not how long the technology has been around, or whether those who are expounding its benefits are behind the times. The most important question is are they being used effectively and to advantage today? The answer -- abso-fucking-lutely.


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Old 12-11-2004, 02:39 AM   #50
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[B]Are you saying AFF isn't worth a grain of salt?
Where did i even mention AFF? Stop putting words into my posts

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Regardless of how long the technology to sort by IP has been around - it is no matter. I personally believe the ability to generate these ads in this manner is worth a lot more today than you seem to be willing to give it credit for.
You are entitled to your opinion just as i am mine

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BTW - You seem to forget you live in this tiny little "gay adult" world. Adult is a smidgen of the $$$ to be made from Geo-marketing. Gay adult an even smaller smidgen.
Again, where did i say we had implemented this old technology? People seem to think all we do is gay stuff... this really int the case just as it isnt the case that it is purely adult orientated businesses we run.

You have used ICQ right? Chances are, you saw some of our geo targeted ads on there without even knowing it was us.

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