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geo targeting is a very fucking powerful tool. Lets try and use it for conversions etc. and not deception people!!!

It has been around for a long time I was doing geo targeted streaming ad insertion campaigns in 1999, only to the county level at 70% accuracy and the city level at 80%.

Geo targeting is the shit...

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Once the programming is done, it can be shown in any format, in any type of image.

But what's wrong with the PNG format? Why are you referring to it as "cheesy"? First of all, it can do everything JPEG does today, it supports transparency to the fullest (although some web browser (IE) doesn't support it quite yet), and last, but far from least, it's an open format!

What's so cheesy about that??

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hagbard

I know I hate PNG's. They do not display properly in IE (no alpha) the decoder can be buggy in its implementation. Most email clients have issues with them too. I use uncompressed png's when I need good alpha and thats about it. its been years now and they just arent catching on

J$tyle$

It's certainly a matter of opinion. Sorry if I offended you

Can you make an ad that looks like this or better?

If so I'd like to see it and know how long it takes to design and program.

BTW - No programming is necessary with ours.

What our application does:

- It allows you to deliver dynamic images based on your surfer's geographical location. Imagine being able to target banners and ads to a surfer's city. You can grab your surfer's attention and increase click-thrus very easily with this technology.

- It's a desktop application that allows you to generate graphics and upload them in minutes, and it works in conjunction with server software that allows the process to work seamlessly together.

- It's a one-person process. No need for a graphic designer AND a programmer plus TIME for back and forth between the 2 just to get one ad up. What we have can be used quickly with MANY graphics or ads.

- It's made for designers - No programming needed! Just open the creative, customize your graphics, targeted ads or banners - and upload!

- It's lightning fast - from screen to server in seconds! Once you have created your customized ads or banners you can use them immediately in your campaigns!

- It's a turn-key solution - we install everything on your server. No need to setup complicated configurations, once installed its ready to use!

- It's got WYSIWYG creative management. What you see in the preview window is what your surfers will see.

- It's got a friendly, familiar interface - Familiar window-based environment that makes your work experience more enjoyable and efficient. Practically no training is required!

AlexShark

Sorry how much is yoru application?

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I have worked with international payment solution and geo ip software for a while now. Although never done it by city. My experience with geo ip targeting with browser language as always proved to increase the revenues of the company i was working with.

Hit me up when you have a minute bro d'like to chat to you bout something

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J$tyle$

Presently we're working exclusively with Afilliate Program owners and fortune 1000 companies in mainstream, Alex.

If you would like to talk privately, please ICQ me and we can discuss this at length.

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I think geo marketing is a necessity now adays for alot of things, dialers, allowed and dissalowed states in the US, all sorts of shit..

Its a good technology that people should be using to their advantage..

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J Steezzy . . . gonna have to agree with you on this one bro - the new wave of geo targetting is killer and is proving to be a money maker.

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VIPimp

Pretty cool... definetly a great way to increase revenue.

King Adam

I think we can all agree that our business is a fast paced cut throat business. The government wants us gone, Acacia keeps busting our balls, who knows how long it will last or how easy will it be to maintain adult sites. When something is available, one must jump on it and take full advantage. Yes, its not totally honest, but neither or stage names, models real age, nationality, weight, and countless other details. This is just a way to get surfers to click their shit. You can either not support it, which is totally fine, or you can say fuck it, and do it and make some extra lute too. I would keep my eye on my cancels and chargebacks. Despending on your site, you might get slightly screwed.

Love ya Styles. May the force be with you ... always.

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JulianSosa

Looks like a winner to me.

Cant wait to get this up to promote sexseearch its gonna kick ass

$pikes

Love it Styles!

How would you suggest your product applies to a company like ours?

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Sneezy

Everybody seems to be jumping on Geo ads lately.

I figure that Geo tageting and browser language detection is simply a necessity if you have a mix of international traffic.
Not many US/CA based affilaite programs use the capabillity of it to it's full length in my opnion. The standard rule is still sending non-us traffic to a dialer version of the site (in English).
Not smart because If you target a european surfer or an asian one, you can also serve him the same site in his language and with the billing solution he is used to.

Geo targeting is a great tool to tie the continents together and tripple the transactional market we are operating in. Fully take advantage of this means that you have to know what the surfer is expecting on your site. To make him feel he is welcome so to speak.

The AFF geo ads for instance are great, but they would be really effective If we could show the Ad in his own language.

I'm Dutch myself and i know that the majority of Dutch surfers have no problem with a geo ad saying "Meet real people to f*k in Tietjerkstradeel. But a German or a Frenchman would rather see the ad in his own language.

So better start translating guys!



Btw I like the creative ad very much J$tyle$
Like to hear more about is.

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J$tyle$

Agreed!

I will hit you up tomorrow for sure, Jman - it's been too long!

Steen2

I am not from Burnaby

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J$tyle$

Sounds a little conflicted, but I understand why you might feel so!

King Adam

Those numbers are tight. I just signed up for SexSearch.com thanks to JStyles. Can't wait to see how it converts with my traffic.

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J$tyle$

How far away are you from there?

Steen2

40 minutes?

SexSearch's got me right, or close enough.

"Surrey"

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J$tyle$

Good for you.

Awesome crew of people and a GREAT program!

NaughtyINC

J$tyle$.. you know as some others know im anal about stats and demographics and targetting direct markets to the fullest extent.. anytime you can narrow your scope in what your product is that you wish to deliver you raise the % of sale possibility.

With geoip advertisements and code placed in sites you can develope a very unique personal experince for your customer and not treating them as sufer #123.. when done right the tool will increase your productivity and revenue while not pissing off the surfer.. i have seen many examples of it being used incorrectly but on the same hand some great people who use it perfectly..

at the end of the day you want to try and develope a unique experince that sets you aside from the merchant of a close product that your trying to sell.. if its porn, pills, dvd's or cars the second you treat your end consumer as a unique person then you establish a relationship indirectly...

Im all for geoip tools when used properly and not over done. jstyles hit me up 2morrow btw or call me

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J$tyle$

Interesting!

We just updated our beta servers to see if we could attain a more accurate reading on IP's with a new database.

We'll be running tests for a few days before changing anything. We would never update globaly unless we are able to increase accuracy which still remains to be seen.

SexSearch is running with our LIVE database presently and doing a kickass job for thier webmasters!

J$tyle$

Well, I'm glad you asked $pikes. I'll have something "special" for you tomorrow to show you exactly how!

Steen2

Geo-IP is great technology though

A bit old (but great), surprised so many are announcing it just now.

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J$tyle$

Very wise and good post. I like the way you think! You seem very well informed!

Hit me up on ICQ and we can talk more privately!

baddog

wow, I can't think of a better use, unless I owned a chain of pizza places

baddog

You always have this way of bringing . . . what is it . . . . oh, facts that always makes it interesting to read.

Fight the Entrance! which no one will get, but I think it is funny

baddog

No shit, I am talking to a guy on ICQ right now and just told him the same thing.

baddog

no shit, that was the perfect setup

baddog

Okay, I have to know what you mean by deceptions. Like maybe they don't stand a chance in hell of dating the chick in the picture?

This whole business is based on the deception that the surfer thinks "that could be me." Isn't that why we look at porn? To envision ourselves in the image for a few minutes.

J$tyle$

How'bout Loans or mortgages?

How'bout realestate?

Purchacing a new car?

looking for a dentist?

Doctor?

Plumber?

I can think of an easy 20 or so business that would benefit by geo-targeting surfers

J$tyle$

I thought it was brilliant.

RRRed had no idea!

I didn't send her the graphic.

It was totally out of left field for her.



We'll come out with some more

baddog

a very good use

J$tyle$

That deception is called FANTASY

more like the surfer deluding himself

baddog

Yeah, if I was running a yellow pages service, but for me personally, a pizza place or a dating site.

baddog

Agreed, but we are aiding and abetting if we are doing our job right.

Like I said, I wanted to know what he meant by not using it for deception. I honestly don't get where people are coming from when they say it is deceptive advertising.

Mr Pheer

eat me ya fuckers!

http://www.mrpheer.com/geo/direct.php

Drake

Is Xmatch your AFF co-brand?

Gateway69

Geo targeting.. wow. alot of stuff on this thread.... I know for ad's you can find a very simple yet powerful system called PHPadsnew, google it if you want to find something. I have been using this software on bondage.com for a long time now and works great..

for geo targeting your traffic to your site there are many applications, api's and front ends that are also avail. I developed one a few years back.

The thing really is to watch your traffic, when I mean by this use a stats program that shows geographical data.. you will be surprised that only about 40-60% of that traffic is coming from the US.. so if you really want to throw away 40% of your traffic then do nothing.. otherwise come up with a system that allows you to make money off of this foreign traffic.

anyhow rant off

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Kristian

I don't live in London, heaven forbid.

Jman

PHPadsnew is great tool.... I been using this for over 2 years, implemented it with many of my clients. This free software is one of the best php banner management system that includes geo targeting.

Install it on one of your page and you will be surprise to find out the % of north american traffic you really have on your site. Then once you find that out, target your traffic with proper ads or proper join pages with payment solution that will apply to that specific country and see yourself adding revenues to your company on the first month.

I know it's that easy cause I've seen it done more then once

Great business thread J$

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Whit Just Whit

Awesome thread!!!!!

And great input across the board...

Jonathan ... looking fwd to seeing you in LV.....

Whitney

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rowan

Your db is too specific for my IP, it shows the local suburb of my ISP rather than the city. I noticed that an AFF ad said the same thing. The suburb has about 10,000 people; the city has about 4 1/2 million. Which do you think would have a better hit rate?

The IP range is 203.8.12.0 if you want to check it out.

tranza

I hate everytime a banner like that comes up written S[] Paulo instead of São Paulo....

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Thanks for the tip. I just went to their site, http://phpadsnew.com/two/ and I'm checking it out. Looks pretty sweet and I look forward to using it. All this information is more than appreciated.

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FightThisPatent

The stuff that J$Styles is doing is cool stuff.. yes, people have been doing geo-ip for a while, but everyone has their own hook or way of doing it that makes it different.

The problem comes in when you have patent(s) that are broad, are broadly interpretted, and are broadly enforced.

To have a patent that maps an IP to a geographic location, would be the foundation patent that anyone who takes that mapping info and does something with it (ie serve up custom text, web page redirect, etc), could theoretically be targetted for a license.

It's like if someone had a patent for a car with 4 wheels, but you came up with a car with 4 wheels, but it had a jaccuzzi in the back, the patentee could then come after you to license their patent, claiming that without their invention, your invention wouldn't work.... or pull an Acacia, and target all the call dealerships that sold your version of a car.

It gets really murky in situations where a broad patent/idea can be enforced upon other patents that later improved on the patent to make it something new.

Most technology can be seen as common sense by those "skilled in the art", so therefore, the patent system is out of date with technology.

The idea of mapping an IP to a geographic location is broad and obvious. Doing something with that info is the innovation that pushes business and technology forward.

Having broad patents taxes businesses with licensing and stifles innovation.





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To keep on topic to thread topic.. yes, geo-ip marketing is a great way to increase clicks and revenue.

Google took a license with Digital Envoy to be able to redirect people to the appropriate front page based on IP/country. They paid $8k/month for this technology.

Earlier this year, Digital Envoy and Google got into court issues where Digital Envoy saw that google was using the geo-up stuff to bring up advertising, which they felt wasn't covered under the licensing agreement, thus "losing" money on additional licensing while google was making millions.

see article here:
http://news.com.com/2100-1024_3-5200584.html

From the article, Digital Envoy is wanting a percentage of the ad revenue that was served up as a result of geo-ip targeting.

Google saw the value in geo-ip targeting of advertising, saw the application of the idea, and now Digital Envoy wants its cut.


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